Saturday, August 2, 2014

Jacob Roloff - "I'm just not a Christian"
































Although it is not entirely shocking if you have followed his Ask.fm  or twitter account, for the first time Jacob Roloff officially said that he is not a Christian. He is the first and only member of the Roloff family to declare that he is not a Christian. Jacob will be 18 in January.

It has created a flurry of reaction as we have received several emails from people asking us to post about the "news" so that it would be open for people to discuss. Some who emailed identified themselves as Christians and were shocked and very distraught that Jacob said he was not a Christian. Some suggested that we (Spiritswander Blog) post an entry specifically for the purpose of asking for prayers for Jacob and his "dire situation". Others were praising Jacob for "thinking for himself" and not automatically following the beliefs of the rest of his family.

A large portion of the Roloff fan base are hard core Christians. The Roloffs are often praised for being a "good Christian family" on television. Although the degree of their beliefs are not really made known in episodes of "Little People, Big World", most of the Roloffs have made it known that they are very religious. Matt and Amy Roloff are rather vocal about it on their fan Facebook accounts and they both are paid speakers for religious organizations and events. The Roloffs 2008 book "Little Family, Big Values" had a heavy flavor of a religious tone to it.

Jeremy Roloff and his fiancee, Audrey, are also vocal Christians. Through twitter posts, Instagram captions, quoting Bible verses and statements from Pastors, to friendships with those Pastors and their online support for their Church, Jeremy is often hailed by fans as being "a wonderful example of a Jesus follower". Molly has also made similar statements although her public presence online is very limited.

Jacob posted this picture with the following words from Richard Dawkins about religion on his twitter account.





























Jacob began receiving (some rather harsh) questions and comments about his tweeting of the (above) picture. Some were livid at his posting comments from an atheist (Richard Dawkins).

Jacob went on to say: "I've never practiced being a Christian I can't remember ever praying I did just enough to get by in a Christian school without being looked down upon, I'm not saying I'm atheist that's you guys, I'm just not a Christian"

He was asked what led to him not being a Christian and was asked if it was going to a public high school (Jacob went to Faith Bible Christian school until late in the 8th grade when the school expelled him. He started going to a public high school for grade 9 and on) Jacob answered: "No what started it was asking questions about God and Religion and getting answers that made no logical sense. Even at an early age.. Not my thing"


Here is the set of Jacob's ask.fm content about it.



I don't think your family would approve of your Richard Dawkins picture tweet. It is anti religion. Out of respect for your family and many of your show's fans who are Christians, you should delete it. An apology would be nice too. 

Nahhh 

Now you're posting quotes from an atheist. A new low. It is truly sad to see what a dark, lost path you're on despite coming from a good faith believing family. 

Yea damn everyone not on the same path as you :-//

Atheism, conspiracy theories..you better watch what you're saying and supporting. 

Nahh, it's better to just say what you think and support what you believe 

How can Jeremy be such a good Christian and you are.....not. you're starting to become evil, like Satan is in control.

If everyone non Christian is Satan to you and you treat them as such, you are not a Christian

I really hope you're just starting this anti religious stuff because you want to be a badass and get under people's skins.

Sorry to disappoint, although not really.. Just being courteous

So you are saying you are an atheist now? Why don't you put that in your twitter bio if you really mean it? I think you're just playing with your Christian fans. You hate them because they like Jeremy better.

I'm saying I've never practiced being a Christian I can't remember ever praying I did just enough to get by in a Christian school without being looked down upon, I'm not saying I'm atheist that's you guys, I'm just not a Christian 

Is it fair to say what started you on this path to atheism was going to a public school and being corruptted by anti christian teachers and kids?

No what started it was asking questions about God and Religion and getting answers that made no logical sense. Even at an early age.. Not my thing 

You're not a Chirstian??? Please delete that Jacob. You just said that out of anger to argue on Ask. You're disappointing many people and many people who care about you by saying that.

They shouldn't be disappointed I'm thinking for myself? They're dumb. 

Have you told your family that you're not a Christian? What did Jeremy say? 

I don't go around telling everyone, no 

Did you make an announcement to your family declaring that you're rejecting God? Much like I'd imagine a gay kid makes a dramatic speech as he's disappointing his family? 

It's not really a new thought.. I've been like this for a while I'm surprised if they can't see it

"I can't remember ever praying" Well, maybe you should have prayed for Mike....prayer works.

No people work, and Mikes Aorta artery tore 30 min from a hospital there's not much that could've been done about 2 hours ago

Seriously, Jacob. You don't believe that praying ever works?

No I don't believe thinking a sentence in your head hoping a higher power will read your mind works. I'll still use the word pray as in #PRAYFORGAZA but that's because it is just a universal term for well wishing and support 

Do you think you'd still be Christian if you never got kicked out of Christian school? I'm curious how cult-ish and sheltered Christian school kids are. 

The only thing that I did to "practice my faith" was be in a Christian family, go to a Christian school (no other option), and call myself a Christian because I was never shown anything else

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Judy B said...

It is not surprising. It was evident at an early age that Jacob was going to be a problem.

He is really disappointing his family.

All I can say is Thank God that Matt has Jeremy.

Timothy said...

I'm glad he said it. I like seeing someone buck the family tradition. The quote he posted is 100% correct.

Jocelynn said...

A son in a family of Christians decides that he doesn't believe.

That would make for an interesting and real episode.

Too bad the show LPBW is so fake and doesn't deal with the real things that happen.

Laura said...

Very sad news indeed.

Matt and Amy still have 6 months where they control him.. If Jacob was my son I would send him to a Christian camp with spiritual counselling.

I'm praying, not for Jacob (I never was found of him) but for his family who must be distraught over this.

Wendy Shaw said...

Think of all the money Matt and Amy wasted on giving Jacob a Christian education.

Parents can do their best, but sometimes kids our determined to make their own mistakes.

Sometimes you get lucky and your kid turns out like Jeremy and sometimes you get Jacob.

Lintons Lint said...

Way to go bruh! I always knew Jacob had it in him to stand up to the family's ways and to reach his own conclusions about the world.

Lynn C said...

I think a lot of us are not shocked to see Jacob fall off the deep end and into the dark side. His behavior has not been that of a Christian.

But it is awful to see the things he's saying now. Like how he doesn't believe prayer, almost mocking the concept of God listening and implying that he he blames his family for not giving him other options.

Shelby said...

Thank the Lord that I'm on Team Jeremy and not Team Jacob!

Brandon said...

I like the way he's thinking. Nice to see some critical thinking from a Roloff.

It's hilarious to see the Christian fans upset because he doesn't believe as you do.

"No I don't believe thinking a sentence in your head hoping a higher power will read your mind works. I'll still use the word pray as in #PRAYFORGAZA but that's because it is just a universal term for well wishing and support"

I like what he said there.

Ronald said...

Jacob is young. One would hope this is just a phase. A few ago he was saying he will change his mind.

I think he is finding it hard to follow Jesus with all the negative influences and impulses he has in his life right now. Namely the drugs.

He doesn't like filming the show. His family continues. He knows they are Christian and expect him to be as well.

Saying this outrageous stuff is a way to get back at them.

Big Brother said...

A good indication of intellectual honesty is admitting he's not a Christian and has never really been into the Christian mindset when there's so many fans (and family) that would be shocked reading it.

Holly said...

It's disgusting reading the things he is saying. It is as though he has been poisoned by the devil.

Jeremy should perform an intervention.

Orlando said...

Suppose Jacob is just saying these things to get this blog and others talking? What if he is truly a christian?

Anne said...

Orlando, a true Christian would never say these things "to get people talking".

Jacob is just awful. A Christian parent's worst nightmare.

Terry said...

If Matt was normal sized Jacob deserves a good old fashioned belt whooping. The comment that pissed me off the most was "call myself a Christian because I was never shown anything else".

Aileen said...

Personally, if I was the rest of the Roloffs, I would disown him.

He's a drug user and non believer. Kick him out. See how cool he is then.

Karl said...

Wow! Would love to see the reaction of Amy, Molly and Jeremy!

Austin said...

Yet he is still a bigot against gay people. That was the only Christian thing about him.

Ben said...

Everything he says makes perfect sense. Good for Jacob for saying what he believes and not caring if his family or fans don't like it.

kj said...

He's been saying a lot of extreme things lately, conspiracy theories, blaming Israel, now this. Maybe he's just looking for attention.

Deborah said...

Jeremy does so much good work for Jesus, while Jacob tries to undo it all. I hope they keep this side of Jacob hidden so he can't influence any more people than he already is.

Ecossaos said...

I love how Jacob's comments have riled up the "Christian" bible thumpers on here.
Matt and Amy have ignored Jacob for years and have "prostituted" their kids and peoples' weddings all for money. How Christian is that?

Lynn C said...

Matt and Amy aren't perfect. It is a misconception that Christians have to be perfect. But they are believers in Jesus and try their best. They can't be compared to the way Jacob is acting.

Anonymous said...

Who cares? Everyone has their own opinions, and this is his. It's not what I believe, but I respect his right to be his own person.

Sarah said...

It is very disappointing. Too much drug use. Jacob even said himself that he smokes TOO MUCH weed.

Laura said...

It was one thing when Jacob was just being an obnoxious teen, but now that he is posting anti-Christian rhetoric it has reached the point where Matt, Amy, TLC and even Jeremy should use his influence to delete Jacob's ask and twitter and take away his venues to spread his Anti-Christian crap.

Rebecca said...

Are you sure Jeremy and Jacob are brothers? One good and one bad.

Leslie said...

Jacob is lying. He called himself a Christian approximately 7 months ago when he was explaining why he thinks homosexuality is wrong.

Carrie said...

I would really like to know what Jeremy feels about this.

Kristina said...

Jacob curses, he uses drugs, he lies, he mocks people for the crime of caring. The other day he said he broke his elbows in an accident. A nice lady said she hopes he feels better. He said yeah thank you. All so he could laugh at her with his friends for being gullible and for believing him. Of course he's not Christian. I'm glad!

Rosberg Boyz said...

I am a friend of Jacob and his christian loving caring family, for the FYI group Jacob does not smoke no type of cigarettes or drugs, nor does he drink any type of alcohol.
Jacob bascly likes to eat candy, chips and drink soda thru out each and every day along with eating a good balance meal his lovely caring mom prepares for their family and friends, until most recently he slack on drinking lots of soda for drinking different types of healty juices so all y'all on this blog get over and get a life because Jacob is only pulling the wool on y'all haters to give y'all stuff to blog about.lol

Anonymous said...

Kristina, why are you glad that someone denies Christ?

Rap541 said...

With all due respect kiddies, if it really really pisses you off that Jacob Roloff is an atheist, shouldn't you all be loudly and proudly shouting it loud on Matt and Amy Roloff's facebooks?

Funny how none of you will stand up for Christ and tell Matt and Amy how offended you are to their faces (in theory) how it offends you that they are succoring an atheist and not having Jeremy whip Christ into the boy. Come now,*Christians* stand up for Christ and tell Matt and Amy how you feel NOT ON THIS WEBSITE THAT THEY HATE but on *their facebooks*.

I mean, for *years* I have been told Matt and Amy and the staff never read hear. NOW is the time to tell them that they have FAILED as parents and that it's TIME for them to have Jremy whip Jake into loving Jesus.

Come on Christians. No one cares, here. Go shout loud and proud at Matt and Amy and see what happens. :)

Rap541 said...

Also, I very much doubt Jeremy will find the fortitude to comment.

Emma said...

I can't believe all of you and what you all are saying. I am disgusted at majority of these comments. Who cares if Jacob is not a Christian. It's not a crime. It's Jacobs viewpoint not yours. Jacob is questioning things and searching for who he is. That is what you do when you're are young. It doesn't make him a bad guy. At least Jacob is telling the truth and not lying to protect his image and the TV show. The TV show is scripted and fake. They make up a storyline for each episode. Do you really believe that Matt would sell the farm? NO, it was made up for the show. Get a life people.

Anne said...

Laura, I totally agree. Jacob has definitely crossed a line with these anti Christian messages. I am ready to write the sponsors. Jacob needs a wake up call. He's not free to say any dangerous crap he wants trying to work against God's plan. As supporters of the tv show that this unbeliever benefits room, we do have the power if we unite to wipe Jacob off the internet so that he can't reach others who might be influenced.

Anne said...

No Rosberg boyz, if that is Jacob's defensecit is not going to work. First no one is going to believe that Jacon is actually a good young Christian kid trying to spread God's kingdom yet spends over a year cursing, promoting drugs, and now atheism. And if he was just "playing" (which is ludicrous to believe) it is no excuse. He is waging war on Christians and on God.

Angel said...

Rap541, I have written Amy about my concerns. I will let you know what she says. In the past she said Jacob is her challenge and she continues to pray for him. I had no idea it had got this bad.

Ashley said...

I think Jacob can believe what he wants but I wish Audrey would blog about this. Shes probably not allowed though. She said she can't blog about her and Jeremy until she is given permission.

Anne said...

Ashley, that is what I'm talking about. If a good person like Audrey is not permitted to write about her Jesus centered relationship with Jeremy then Jacob shouldn't be free to post anti-Christian comments whenever he pleases. It's a double standard.

Anonymous said...

Leave Jacob alone. When did Christians become so judgemental? Anne you sound totally insane. YOU do not need to do anything except go about your business. He is not hurting anyone and you should all be ashamed!

Anonymous said...

Good for Jacob!! I think he is finally growing up. He has a right to his opinion and is old enough to not rely on mommy and daddy's beliefs for his own. The rest of the family could learn a thing or two from Jacob when it comes to dealing with the internet crazies.

ashleigh said...

--Judy B said...
"It is not surprising. It was evident at an early age that Jacob was going to be a problem."


then why didn't his wonderful, christian parents,grandparents, siblings, etc help him?

--Laura said "I'm praying, not for Jacob (I never was found of him)"

ummm aren't you, as a christian, supposed to specifically pray for your enemies and people you dislike and all that?

--Lynn C said...
"Matt and Amy aren't perfect. It is a misconception that Christians have to be perfect. But they are believers in Jesus and try their best."


it's not that people believe that they have to be perfect but they should back up their claims that they try their hardest with actual actions. they talk the talk but never walk the walk. this has been the case endlessly as you watch through the years matt and amy spouting off about how you should raise your kids and then you watch as they don't discipline them at all, amy does everything for them, even though you're supposed to guide them and teach them how to do things themselves. parents who actually follow through with this aren't waking their adult children up to take the SAT, running around trying to find pencils and calculators for them, etc. and that episode is far from the only time we see matt and amy's statements about parenting being proven as just hollow words that they know you all will eat up with a spoon.

--Anne said...
"No Rosberg boyz, if that is Jacob's defensecit is not going to work. First no one is going to believe that Jacon is actually a good young Christian kid trying to spread God's kingdom yet spends over a year cursing, promoting drugs, and now atheism. And if he was just "playing" (which is ludicrous to believe) it is no excuse. He is waging war on Christians and on God."


i'd like to point out that JACOB is not saying this as a defense, someone else is claiming to know him. sometimes people here claim to know him or give reasons why he may be behaving a certain way and people react as though jacob himself has said it. just saying.

and i am lmao at the war he's waging. he's not saying christians are evil, he's just saying he doesn't believe in it. calm down! and audrey not being allowed to post while jacob is is not a double standard. 1) audrey has made an adult decision to sign a contract where she is not currently allowed to talk about everything she wants. 2) both she and jeremy ARE allowed to talk about god and do so on a regular basis.

--Leslie said...
"Jacob is lying. He called himself a Christian approximately 7 months ago when he was explaining why he thinks homosexuality is wrong."


i don't recall for a fact him calling himself a christian but it may still have just sort of been a knee-jerk reaction from saying it all those years. i also don't recall him saying HE thinks homosexuality is wrong, but someone asked if it's a sin and he said that the bible says it is. all he was really saying is if you believe everything in the bible then yes it is. he's also commented when people have pointed out that he is a sinner, too, that of course he is and everyone is. none of this means he accepts gay people or doesn't, btw, just saying i haven't ever seen him claim that HE feels homosexuality is wrong. if you ask somebody if they believe something to be a sin, they are going to tell you what the religion teaches, not whether they morally and personally find it wrong.

Rouge said...

I am a Catholic. But Jacob claiming to be not a Christian does not make Jacob a bad person.

There are other things that make Jacob a bad person but his religious beliefs is not one of them. Some of the nicest people I met are not Christians.

Isabelle said...

Anne, there is no "double standard". Audrey can't blog in depth about her engagement just yet because it's gonna be the basis for an episode. Probably a contractual thing. I very highly doubt Jacob would agree to do an episode about his religious beliefs, so there's no conflict with the show there. There's actually no mention of Christianity at all on the show, so I don't see why the sponsors would care that he's not one. lt.'s not like he's a Duggar. Jacob has never sold himself as Christian on TV or online. The kid can post and believe as he pleases. Thinking for yourself is not a crime.

Rap541 said...

Angel - doesn't Matt the father, and Christian have some responsibility or is he perfect and Amy at fault?

I'm always amazed at how a man who walks out on his family, leaving his troubled son in the care of a woman everyone thinks is incompetent is never at fault for the children he's raised. :)

Rap541 said...

Anne - I think sometimes you like to twist things so let me help you out.

I think Audrey has been asked, possibly required but more likely asked, to not discuss her wedding etc for profitability reasons. A) The producers want the audience to be surprised and b) the producers don't want the general audience turned off by a bunch of bible thumping.

If Audrey wasn't interested in keeping silent and accepting the money for it, she would be loud and proud. The only reason she's "not allowed" to speak about her Jesus centered relationship is because she's agreeing to it.

Audrey doesn't have to agree to such constraints. She chooses to. Jacob frankly is likely under the same "constraints" as Audrey - he's immature and doesn't care how it might affect the money. Audrey is concerned about the money, therefore she keeps her mouth shut. But that is the only restriction she's facing so lets not twist it into her being an oppressed Christian.

William from Manitoba said...

Let me add some perspective. Some years ago I had the pleasure of chatting with Ron and Peggy Roloff (Jacob's grandparents) when they visited Winnipeg.

They are two of the greatest and most dedicated Christians that I have met. We had a chance to exchange our thoughts on God and the world. During my chat with Ron, we discussed the future of the United States. The importance of the younger generation to keep God #1 and the danger from Muslims.

To read Jacob write anti-Israel ideas while supporting the Muslims, in addition to his denying Christ is heart-breaking, knowing what wonderful people Ron and Peggy Roloff are.

It is disgraceful what Jacob is doing to his family. I know that Ron and Peg love their grandson, but I also know that they would be very hurt and saddened by these "ideas" that Jacob is spewing.

I would support banning Jacob from the internet.

Lexie said...

Jacob is too much. He's tweeting about how people always misunderstand him. A nice girl told to pray and ask Jesus for help. He responded "No". He is so rude!

Lynn C said...

Jacob is trying to claim that people are misunderstanding him? No, it is what he said. There is no misunderstanding. He was very clear. He denies Christ, mocks prayer and doesn't "waste" his time thinking about after-life. How is that misunderstanding him?

Felicia said...

Jacob needs prayer. God is still with him even if Jacob doesn't understand Him.

Felicia said...

Jacob needs prayer. God is still with him even if Jacob doesn't understand Him.

Rap541 said...


--Laura said "I'm praying, not for Jacob (I never was found of him)"


Let me guess, this is Christian love at its finest? :)

You cheerfully and publically note your refusal to pray for a lost soul? How *Christian* of you.

Taylor said...

Jacob will probably change his mind in a week.

Timothy said...

William, I couldn't disagree with you more. I'm glad Jacob is making his own decisions about what he thinks of the world. However, I would LOVE to see Ron's reaction as he read this about Jacob. Or to see Ron and Jacob talk about religion and politics. Now THAT would be reality tv worth watching.

Ian said...

Rap is right. Jacob is lost and he is need of Jesus. We should all pray for him.

Rorie said...

Jacob is a 17-year-old boy whose family is undergoing a big change at the moment. Leave him be. I raised all four of my kids in the Church and at the moment 1 attends regularly (he's 15), one attends occasionally but is a believer, one rarely attends but believes, and the other is questioning. He's a male, 21 years old. Am I disappointed? Sure, but every kid goes through this. Hopefully, he and Jacob will come out believing what their parents do. Leave the boy alone.

Grace said...

Jacob says he won't deny Jesus on the show? What does that say?

Doreen said...

Jacob is NOT misunderstood. That is such a cop out on his part.

He is denying Christ and saying some very demeaning things about people of faith. When you are critical of the concept of prayer and attempt to mock it you are mocking people who live on prayer.

It seems to me Jacob doesn't like it when people don't agree with his drug induced views of the world and God.

Gina said...

He is rejecting his family by denying Christ. I think he made the choice of drugs over God when he realized Jesus doesn't approve.

Elizabeth said...

It is really tragic that Jacob doesn't care if he ends up in Hell for eternity.

Anonymous said...

We are all athiest to the thousands of Gods that came before Yaweh. Jacob decided to get a jump start and be enlightened with the truth.

Ray said...

Jesus is big with the Roloffs. Jacob is rebelling that's all. Mad at the show and too immature to know it pays the bills. Probably also mad that Mom and Dad didn't buy him a new phone. How to get back at them? Denounce Jesus and hurt them that way.

Natalie said...

Jeremy never tweets or answers anything important. That's hard to respect. At least Jacob states his opinion.

Dana said...

To the people hoping Amy will parent and ban Jacob from the internet (I agree it should happen) forget it. Amy is talking about how she's doing a media project with Matt. She said they get along for business but are not personally. Matt and Amy are so consumed with their own lives they probably don't even care what Jacob is doing.

Kelly said...

Why is Jacob tweeting "Goodnight" at 7:30pm? I wonder if he's sending himself into a pill induced slumber. When people reject Christ they do crazy things sometimes.

Kelly said...

Why is Jacob tweeting "Goodnight" at 7:30pm? I wonder if he's sending himself into a pill induced slumber. When people reject Christ they do crazy things sometimes.

Kane said...

I don't get why some people are so upset about this. Jacob is thinking critically and expressing an honest opinion...good for him!

Oh, Please said...

If this kind of extremist religious fanaticism, expressed as outrage against a boy who doesn’t toe the religious party line, were in a newspaper story about Muslin fanatics attacking someone for abandoning the official faith line (a true story in recent news about a Muslim girl who converted to Christianity) the „Christians“ here would go nuts.

Yet they are so completely lacking in self-awareness that they don’t see their violence and vitriol as exactly the same thing. They are Christian Taliban and would only be happy in a state run by their theological biases – the very kind of Sharia law fanaticism I’ll bet they all imagine is a threat here (like Ron and Peggy and now William from Manitoba) have repeatedly stated publicly. These “Christians” are the threat here, plain and simple. Their ideal world is that the USA be like Iran – only with a Christian dictatorship instead of a Muslim one.

And the fanaticism and hypocrisy is made even worse by creating a reality that cannot be proven to exist. Deborah and others think “Jeremy does so much good work for Jesus” and yet neither she nor anyone else can point to any evidence of that, at least unconnected to the show or paid for by TLC. Retweeting what someone else said, or expressing hatred for minorities and gays, or liking an essentially extremist cult church doesn’t amount to doing anything, much less “doing good works” as Jesus enjoined people to do. In fact, it shows cowardice in not standing up and doing things that what your fans allege you actually believe in. The “religious” fans are more vocal about what Jeremy does or believes than Jeremy himself says or does.

Some good Christians do stand up and do good works – the oppose guns and violence, they fight against racism and poverty, they fight for the environment (God’s earth, if you are religious), they work in communities and run food banks, and so on They approach every person with love and acceptance and not vitriol and hatred. They do not gang up on a teenager who happens to be in disagreement with them.

Doug E Doug said...

Why is Ann Baily at twitter @AnnBailey23 posting stuff to Amy and Jerremy Rollf twitter account and Audrey Botti about the stuff Jacob is posting, Jacob is 17 years old and six months from now at some point he will be 18, why not leave the poor kid along. Stop harassing these people before they report you and have you Ann Bailey ban from twitter because you are what they would call a creeper Ann Bailey.

Anne B said...

People don't understand the concept of free speech. Jacob can mock Jesus, the Bible and Christianity with his fellow stoner friends all he wants.....PRIVATELY. He is not allowed to have an audience. He is not allowed to corrupt anyone he pleases. The only reason he has an audience is because of the show which was built on Christian values and supported by Jesus followers.

THAT is why we have the power to control the reach of Jacob's anti-Christian messages. All we have to do is make it known that we won't tolerate Jacob working against Jesus. Contact the people who have the power to wipe Jacob off the grid because LPBW is a Christian supported show and we have the power.

Marlene said...

Audrey is at a Young Life Chistian ministry. I wish she would spend more time trying to save her brother in-law. This must be hard on Jeremy.

Vanessa Barton said...

There are without a doubt some of the funniest lines I've ever read in this discussion, if that's what it claims to be. Thanks for the laughs, one and all! The teen holds the power here; most of you are hanging on his every word.

Doug E. Doug said...

You said it Anne B, freedom of speech, which is just what Jacob Roloff is doing he is voicing his own opinions about certain aspects of his life and what it is people like you and many others in this horrible world present day that is always trying to find a way to shut people up for expressing what they belive right or wrong .

Jacob is doing just what any other type of people or group would do on a college campus one example is the KKK they or any other organization or group voice their opinions and or beliefs and if you like what is being said you hang around and listen if not move on with your life.

The only difference is with Jacob he is voicing his opinions and beliefs online. So Anne B you and others are mad at Jacob for what he is saying well why not flip it the other way around would you and other people like yourself should you all be ban and or block from the internet for speaking your thoughts and ideas on religion faith and other thoughts and beliefs.

The bible says judge not and you will not be judge condemn not and you will not be condemned. So with that said why not as I stated before in a earlier post he is a 17 year old kid who in six months will be 18 he is still learning and still growing physically and emotionally he and all of us have done and or still going thru all sorts of things in our lives and we are steady learning from it and growing which we will go thru until we leave this earth.

So just think about it What does the Bible say and what does the Bible teach.

Rap541 said...

. Contact the people who have the power to wipe Jacob off the grid because LPBW is a Christian supported show and we have the power.

I guess, along with pointing out that calling for someone to be wiped off the grid sounds like a threat, that I really have to ask, do you think you're making a case for people thinking positively of the Christian faith here?

Because... you're not. Let's see if I can sum it up. A possibly troubled kid has said he doesn't believe in the Christian god.

In response, proud Christians have noted they don't like him, they never have, and they will NOT pray for him, his parents should disown him and kick him out, his brother should stage an intervention, he's evil, he's the devil, and he should be silenced.

Jeremy and Mueller torture a cat? "He's a boy and ONLY GOD MAY JUDGE".

Here's what I have learned, kids. Christians are hypocrits. Matt leaves his wife and he's held up as a fine Christian man. He can treat his family like trash, publically note how useless they all are to him, and abandon his troubled son to his bitch wife and he praises God so you all kiss his ass because "I love Jesus" means you can treat everyone else like shit. Look over some of these comments, kids, and ask yourself if you really think Jesus would praise you for proudly stating you refuse to pray for someone who you think has left the faith.

Oh wait... if you do that, then you have to stop hating, and hating is what Christians do best :)

Lynn C said...

I think people are forgetting that Jacob is still a minor on a show with millions of Christian fans. He is being insulting towards not only the fans but his own family. I've seen and read Matt, Amy and Jeremy all pray. Jacob is belittling prayer. He shouldn't be saying this. Jacob isn't a responsible twitter or ask.fm user. It wouldnt be bad if he had it taken away.

Deb said...

Why do some people get upset when a high school boy says "fag" but people are ready to defend when someone is bashing Christianity and Christians?

Anne B said...

Oh Rap541, leave it to you. I'm not the most tech savvy person. Wiped off the grid means removed from social media sites like the Twitter and Ask site. Did I really need to say it the long way. The grid. The social media. The Internet. The world wide web.

He is saying things against Christians. The only reason why he has followers is because Christians support the show and his family.

I think Jacob should be put into Christian counselling in an attempt to save him. In the meantime, he shouldn't be allowed to say anything he darned well pleases while he encourages other young people to deny Jesus Christ as he is doing. It is sad when any teen denies Christ. It is wrong when a teen influences others to do the same.

Anne B said...

Everyone should look at something positive. Twitter.com/audreybotti Audrey is spending her time working FOR Jesus as she helped bring young Maddy Home to Christ. That is what should get attention. That's what good people do. Jacob is trying to destroy it.

Rap541 said...

" He is being insulting towards not only the fans but his own family."

And his parents are doing what?

Anne B - In all seriousness, if I said that about Jeremy, you'd calling for my head. :)

And I notice you have absolutely nothing to say about the Christian behavior you're endorsing - you're very clearly stating as a Christian that you want any non Christian who speaks out silenced.

Let me guess - you also feel Christians should *never* be silenced due to freedom of speech, but bless us Jesus, non believers should be SILENCED.

My god, you were wetting yourself in rage at the mere suggestion that Audrey was voluntarily constrained from discussing her wedding but if the view pisses you off, you demand your right as a CHRISTIAN to silence anyone you as a CHRISTIAN have decided don't deserve the right to speak.

It's also duly noted that very few of the incensed Christians here are willing to agree that Jesus would approve of refusing to pray for someone who has left the faith.

Rap541 said...

Anne B - Seems like Audrey might want to turn her attention to her brother in law then?

Funny, I haven't heard any talk of *Jeremy* stepping up for his family either. Or Zach (but no one cares there)

Anonymous said...

Anne B is a troll who can't possibly believe anything she is saying. She Is looking for a rise out of the family. Freedom of speech does apply to the internet and there are far worse things being said on it by far more popular people. She is in need of more help than Jacob.

Leslie said...

Anon, there are a lot of people who agree with Anne.

Why is it okay for people to bash Christians but any other group, people get upset about?

Read what Jacob said about prayer. The way he worded it was intentionally demeaning, insulting and an attempt at mockery.

PS. Jacob still hasn't explained how he has been "misunderstood".

Ashley said...

Ra[541, it is frustrating that Jeremy NEVER tweets about anything important. Any sort of hard question at all or any question about an important topic, he NEVER says anything.

He has been favoriting and "liking" other tweets, so he is around. He is simply avoiding the Jacob stuff.

Laura said...

Anne, thank you. You are saying it all better than I could have. I will do what I can as well.

Laura said...

Rap541, okay, I admit I was wrong to say that I won't pray for Jacob. That wasn't very Christian of me. I am not perfect and let my anger get the best of me when I wrote/thought that.

I do hope Jacob finds his way back to Jesus. However, it is true that I've never been fond of Jacob's behavior.

What I meant was that while I know Jacob would not care, my thoughts are with his family, good caring Christians (who yes, are imperfect people who love a perfect God) because it does hurt the family when someone they love is on a destructive path and rejects Jesus Christ.

You are right. I should have said I am praying for Jacob and his family. I was wrong and I admit it.

Laura said...

Ashleigh, yes you are right. See my response to Rap541 above. I was wrong. I do dislike Jacob, but I was wrong to say that I would not pray for him. My thoughts were with his family that I care about and that was the intention of my statement. However, I let my anger over what Jacob was saying get to me and I shouldn't have said I won't pray for him. What I really meant was that Jacob is not the only one who needs prayer although he is the lost one. He is hurting his family and they should be in our prayers as well.

Rap541 said...

Why is it okay for people to bash Christians but any other group, people get upset about?


Because no one here has gotten upset over what Jake said, and demanded he be silenced by Christians? Oh wait, that's happening right now. In fact, Christians merrily bash all sorts of people, just like other groups. They just tend to whine the loudest how unfair it is that they aren't being treated as "above" all the other people.

While Christians are oppressed in other countries (I have no problem agreeing with that) here in the states, none of you are in danger of being arrested for saying you're Christian or for worshipping, or even for saying that non Christians should all be silenced. You're not. What you're mad about is that you're not allowed to silence people officially anymore.

Cynthia said...

I'm sorry I wanted to try to say something nice, but Jacob is terrible. He is an awful person. It sounds harsh but it is true. He has no conscience.

I really wonder if the rumors that he suffered frontal lobe damage from the trebuchet accident that impairs a person's ability to have empathy are true.

He IS a stoner who doesn't take anything seriously.

Jacob posted Anne's comment with "HAHAHAHAHAHA"

Even if you disagree with Anne, which I don't, it is a serious situation. I can assure you that Amy, Matt, Jeremy and Molly are very hurt and troubled by Jacob's revelation.

That Jacob doesn't care about what he says or how it affects people is very troubling.

Rap541 said...

I also really give this about as much importance as Jacob's family does.... and that, angry shouters, etc, should really be telling you something about the nature of the Roloffs faith.

Where is Matt? I know when he writes books, he knows how to toss off the "we thank god" remarks pretty well, and he clearly doesn't mind cultivating the image of a godly man. People have asked him on his facebook about this. No response, and he's off to travel.

Not a word from Amy.

Not a word from Jeremy.

I will let Audrey off the hook since she's not married in.

Jacob's family obviously doesn't mind or care what Jacob says on line.

They clearly don't care what fans think about the situation.

Think about that. And then tell me how they're all standing tall with Christ in this "crisis"

Rap541 said...

Laura - I appreciate and respect your response. At least one of you out there have actually read the book.

Anonymous said...

All of this rage and hostility from Jacob lately is because his family life is in shambles and his girlfriend, love of his life, Steph dumped him last month. He is emotionally dying on the inside and being mean and outrageous to strangers gives him an outlet. We all should pray he sees the error of his ways and finds peace.

Kelly said...

Jacob is so immature. He doesn't care about anyone else except himself. He is such an arrogant brat.

He thinks he's the only person in the world that matters.

Kaitlyn said...

Anonymous at 7:43 is right. We should pray for Jacob Roloff even if as Christians we hate his choices, words and behavior. His family life is not the greatest with his brothers entering their own lives leaving him behind and alone, and his parents can't tolerate each other. On top of that his girlfriend dumped him. That's big for a teenager. He's hurting and angry. This is one way for him to get it out.

Monica said...

Rap, it was very unfair of you to make the comment about how Audrey should care about Jacob. How do you know she doesn't. Audrey can't save Jacob unless he wants it. Jeremy made a twitter response to Jacob (who said he was bored) that he should have come to where the religiou retreat was. Jeremy and Aud can onlyhelp Jacob if he lets them.

Alexa said...

I think the last few comments are on the right track. It all has to do with Jacob's ex girlfriend breaking up with him. She is at a religious outing with Audrey. Read her Instagram caption. She found Jesus. Jacob is hurt and this is one more way lash back.

Rap541 said...

I actually gave her a pass since she's not yet married in. Please find something else to bitch about :)

Jason said...

I love how everyone thinks Jeremy is the ultimate Christian. He's so selfish. He uses fans for profit. He's never apologized. His bff and him told a girl to kill herself. He didn't care and is still bffs with mueller. Some example of Jesus!

At least Jacob answers tough questions sometimes.

ashleigh said...

" LPBW is a Christian supported show and we have the power."

Anne, excuse me while i die laughing since you don't even have enough numbers to keep LPBW on the air much less get a person thrown off the internet for stating that they are not a christian.

Anonymous said...

Hey everyone! Lol, It's cute watching you guys think you know everything, but no this has nothing to do with me breaking up with Steph it just wasn't right anymore haha, I'm not 'dying' inside

Vanessa Barton said...

For all the people here who said they will pray for this kid; please go into your closets and do it, as the Bible inspires; rather than yapping about it here.

The teen has all of you by the short hairs; saying stupid teen stuff to set you to spluttering like nine chickens. Why don't you try stalking someone via social media who has something interesting to say; isn't it a tad embarrassing to be following a teenager and then gasping aloud when he expresses himself? Or demanding his family speak sternly to him..I mean where? on social media so you can nose it around?
Dream on.

Tom said...

It's funny because there are a lot of reasons why Jacob IS an obnoxious brat, but not being a Christian isn't one of them.

There are a lot of better reasons to dislike Jacob than what he said about religion.

Having said that, I can't imagine that Jeremy is too pleased.

Alexa said...

"Hey everyone! Lol, It's cute watching you guys think you know everything, but no this has nothing to do with me breaking up with Steph it just wasn't right anymore haha, I'm not 'dying' inside"

Normally I would say this is just an impostor, but Jacob said this on Ask. I think the timing is about right...

Q: "Have you ever commented on Spiritswander?"
A: "If it works, I think I'm about to lol"

Hi Jacob. I think you're lying. You have lied about stuff you said before and admitted it later that you said things that weren't true.

Like you said "I only said that so she would stop saying it" or "I only said that stuff about idolizing Jer because you guys were being stupid".

The timing of your "religious awakening (or the opposite...religious closure??) and your relationship with Steph ending seems to be too much of a coincidence.

You said that you've felt this way about religion for a while. During your relationship with Steph you got further from Jesus while Steph found Jesus and even got baptized.

Yours and Steph's relationship ending had nothing to do with your new views on religion? I don't believe that.

All the people you're mad at want you to worship Jesus.

Shelby said...

If Jacob is really answering here or obviously at least reading, why don't you go on a trip with just Jeremy?

Is it because he doesn't want to or is it because you don't want to.

Most people think it would be good for Jeremy's faith to rub off on you if you spent an extended time together.

Wendy Shaw said...

Is Jacob planning on paying Matt and Amy all the tuition they spent on Faith Bible Christian school?

It was all for nothing.

Andrea said...

I would love to be there when Jacob tells (oh lets admit it, he wouldn't have the guts to do that)...when Ron Roloff finds out about Jacob's religious beliefs and his anti-Israeli and pro-Palestine politics.

Andrea said...

I would love to be there when Jacob tells (oh lets admit it, he wouldn't have the guts to do that)...when Ron Roloff finds out about Jacob's religious beliefs and his anti-Israeli and pro-Palestine politics.

Kayleigh said...

On Twitter Jacob said:

"I wish I could explain my thought process w/o sounding crazy to everyone lmao"

My advice is ask Jesus for clarity.

Holly said...

I'm with Anne and the others who think Jacob should be censored.

He's only going to get worse. I just was browsing on his twitter feed.

Jacob tweeted "The more I don't have to fake what I think about things the noticeably more happy I'm becoming"

What is he going to say next?

He shouldn't be praised for bashing Christians and prayer.

Ryan Slater said...

Holly, I am the total opposite.

It's a great thing if Jacob has figured out that a person is happier in the end when they don't need to hide what they really think about things.

It's a very hard thing to do. A lot harder than it sounds to actually follow through on it. But if a person can do it, my hats off to them. They are probably living a life they like.

Davis said...

I keep on hoping Jacob will say he's been hacked and it wasn't him.

Denise said...

Does anyone know the real reason why his girlfriend Stephanie broke up with Jacob?

Was it because his drug use was becoming too much? Or was it because of the religious differences? Stephanie has said the person in the entire world who has helped her the most and who she has learned the most from is Audrey. We all know what Audrey is like when it comes to Jesus.

It's hard to believe Stephanie wouldn't be fed up with Jacob not following Jesus and with his constant drug abuse.

Deborah said...

Vanessa Barton, the Roloffs, except for Jacob, are good Christian people. That is hard to find from families who share their lives with us on television.

To learn that one of them, even the one has always been the most disappointing, is bordering on Atheism is something that should catch the attention of Christians.

It is not good. It is very disappointing and it is wrong for Jacob to be praised for denying Christ by haters of the Christian Faith.

Selfishly, I would like to know what Jeremy, Matt and Amy have said to Jacob about "his decision". I am confident that they have talked to him privately about it and have done their best to pull him back from the brink and to be less offensive to the Christians that support the family.

Felicia said...

I wonder if Jeremy feels betrayed by Jacob?

All that Jeremy does to try to be a good example and build Jesus up and spread the word, and his own brother is now challenging him?

Jacob is very disrespectful and inconsiderate.

Shelby said...

I think Jacob is about to be wrecked. lol. I like this favorite from Jeremy on twitter.

"God will wreck your plans when He sees that your plans are about to wreck you."

Diane said...

Jacob is obviously a very troubled kid who is on the path to a tragic end.

Spiritually lost, angry and argumentative, without motivation and consumed by drugs.

What is scary to me is if Jeremy of all people, someone who Jacob supposedly respects, can't get Jacob to stop fighting against Christ, then the chances of Jacob returning home to the Lord and Savior is very slim.

Carrie said...

I have been a Christian all my life and I can't imagine doing what Jacob is doing. I have known people like Jacob described himself who "do just enough to get by" in school. It is very sad to see these lost souls who won't experience the joy of a reunion with the Father.

I believe in karma and when Jacob chooses to battle against God, he's going to lose :) I would watch out for lightning for other freaks of nature if I were Jacob.

Olivia said...

I am confused as to how they can be brothers but Jeremy can be so good and full of light and Jacob can be so evil, bad and full of darkness and hate.

Sheila said...

Oh Jacob is such a dumb kid.

He doesn't even realize the reason why he is sitting there in his Gazebo is because of Christians supporting what we thought were all good Christians.

He is also looking out over what? I'll tell you God's creations. He then denies Christ? I hope this is all an act for attention because I hope one kid couldn't be so stupid.

Anonymous said...

You people are pathetic... those of you that think you should be able to control a 17 year old kid and FORCE him to believe what you think he should believe... stop trying to GUILT him into something.

This form of coercion is anti-American... ever hear of the 1st Ammendment of the US Constitution?

I've got $100 bucks saying that Jacob turns out to be a happier adult than most of you because of the simple fact that he is honest with himself and he never forces his opinion on others.

Jacob seems to understand the Golden Rule a lot better than most of you so-called believers.

Law.

Alexa said...

Anonymous, I would bet you on Jacob not being happy. Anybody with a brain can see he is full of hate and anger because he's miserable. He thinks removing God is a good step, but he is dead wrong. He's one step closer to winding up passed out out unconscious in a public restroom like people have predicted for him. He's very self destructive.

Eric said...

Hi Jacob, don't you find it hard to think these things, feel this way about Christ when you are constantly surrounded by Believers? I know most of the gang that comes for campfires are Christians. Doesn't it feel wrong to think negative thoughts?

Anon503 said...

Good for Jacob expressing himself honestly. He's the only Roloff that does and also seems to be the normal Roloff.

Matt and Amy don't care because they are too busy being involve with their own lives. Matt and Amy are so fake. They don't express their views about issues because if they did people would get offended.

NONE of you are good Christians because if you were you would not be talking trash about Jacob. LOVE THY NEIGHBOR. LOVE NOT HATE. HAVE COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE EVEN IF YOU DON"T AGREE WITH THEIR VIEWS.

Stop criticizing a 17 year old. I'll bet when you were that age you made mistakes, angry at the world and had questions about life.

Talia said...

Anne, please just tell me what I have to do to get Jacob kicked off the internet so that he can stop trying to tell other people to kill Christ. People need more Jesus! Not less!

Anne please write me at m.taliatalia@hotmail.com

Thanks. Jacob needs to be censored and soon.

Vanessa Barton said...

Deborah, kiddo, it certainly IS selfish of you to want to drag your nose everywhere; and by the way, I'm not so sure "the Roloffs are good, Christian people" at all; and unlike yourself, I have no burning need to KNOW ALL they SAY to one another, pro, con, or undecided. Can't you manage to survive without this?

Deborah said...

Vanessa, don't pull that card. Why are you here, on a discussion site about the Roloffs if you have no interest in discussing the Roloffs?

You have no right to say that the rest of the Roloffs are not good Christian people. Btw, I am including soon to be Roloff, Audrey in that. Jeremy and Audrey are the beacons of light in the Roloff family while Jacob is the darkness.

Anonymous said...

Judge not... lest you be judged, Deborah

Anne B said...

Jesus did not command His followers to do nothing when someone threatens the future of His Kingdom.

We must stand untied with Jesus even though it may be easier to watch tv and do nothing.

Email bailey.anne83@hotmail.com if you are a Christian that wants to close Jacob's ask.fm and twitter world wide web pages.

We can do this together because we have God on our side. "With God, all things are possible." Matthew 19:26

Anonymous said...

I'll tell you this Anne and Deborah... if you came after my child the way you are trying to persecute Jacob... you would be dealing with ONE ANGRY FATHER!

I'd put you two in your place in a hurry... and you would think twice before attempting to intimidate another child ever again.

Le-ann said...

Jacob, if you see this, I know now it is too the point where you feel a need to prove yourself right, but there is a bigger matter at stake. Your existence in eternity. Your life. Your relationship with Jesus.

Please reconsider what you have proclaimed recently.

Even if you have too much pride not to do it online, please do it for yourself.

Mary said...

Why isn't Jeremy doing anything about this?

Rap541 said...

*wonders why all the Christian fans who support the show and let the Roloffs live free and easy aren't letting Matt and Amy know they WON'T support the Roloffs if Matt and Amy continue to provide Jacob with internet access*

I mean, he's a minor. You're telling Matt the strong Christian can't have the cell phone turned off and Amy the strong Christian can't have the internet turned off?

Psst Matt and Amy won't do a thing as long as Matt can trot from his single bachelor pad to Maui and Amy can continue to play at being a celebrity. :)

Frankly, anonymous protesters who can't actually be shown to know the Roloffs aside, I see no evidence that anyone in the Roloff household really gives two craps if Jacob openly worships Satan.

Kelly said...

Rap541, Anne has wrote Amy about it on twitter. She also wrote Jeremy, Audrey and TLC.

I'm not sure about facebook. That is harder to track unless you read every single comment on the page.

Timothy said...

"I see no evidence that anyone in the Roloff household really gives two craps if Jacob openly worships Satan."

Rap, to be honest, I think the rest of them are Christian.

But I don't disagree with you. But it's not because they aren't Christian. It's just the dynamic in that family is no one seems to care too much about Jacob.

The sad truth is I am one hundred percent positive that everyone here cares a lot more about what Jacob thinks, believes, the direction of his life in general, etc., than his family actually cares.

I think the reason why Jeremy hasn't commented on this is because when it comes right down to it, Jeremy doesn't really care that much about what's going on with Jacob. Jeremy is wrapped up in Jeremy.

Rap541 said...

"Rap541, Anne has wrote Amy about it on twitter. She also wrote Jeremy, Audrey and TLC. "

Any response?

Think about it.

Timothy, I think the rest of the family is Christian in the sense that they know how to quote the bible and say what people want to hear.

The really sad truth is that I entirely agree with you - it's just the family dynamic that no one really cares about Jacob or wants to be bothered with him.

I also agree that Jeremy doesn't really care what's going on with Jacob as long as Jeremy isn't inconvienced.

Podge/Rodge groupie said...

Uh, Kelly (and of course Anne??) correct if I'm wrong here. In checking the Twitter accounts of Jeremy, amyroloffcf and Audrey, NOT ONE of Anne's tweets show up. Doesn't Anne have to get these people to follow her in order to have her tweets show up on their accounts? I'm being honest here. I don't have a Twitter account so I don't know. See, I don't even know if Anne can DM (direct message) people who are not following her, such as Amy. If that were possible, where are Anne's tweets on the aforementioned accounts? I don't know.

I've written before, and Rap has as well, the fact that Amy and Matt, and I'll throw Jeremy James Jesus (never gets old, Rap!) in this time although I never did before, are SO wrapped up in their own 'stuff' that they just do not care. Matt's compliments on Jacob's ask made some time ago do nothing but add fuel to the argument. I just watched the third instalment of the Zeitgeist movies, "Moving Forward" and the beginning has a very good piece on different parenting structures evident in today's society. The first was absolute 'in absentia' with no parents present at all. The second was 'i can't remember the exact term' where the parents ARE present in the child's life but not doing any real parenting. The example given in the movie portrayed a couple of professional people, who dropped the kids off at the sitters on the way to work, picked them up, made supper and whisked them off to bed. They received more nurturing from the caregivers than the parents.
This is where I put Jacob's situation in the family history, completely documented in front of the TV viewing public. I know the 'christians' are going to attack me because I do not agree with their ideology, but I honestly believe Jacob received more parenting and guidance form the late Mike Detjen than he did from either parent.

I wrote on the previous post about the difference made by the two largest civil liberty organizations in the US, about the EQUAL and NON-Partisan right of Freedom OF religion, and Freedom FROM religion. To me, freedom FROM religion is a basic human right. OK, before the lynch mobs show up with crosses, tar, feathers and all manner of christian torturous devices, I've read the words written over as carefully as I could. I cannot see where you people claim that Jacob has defied god. He has chosen not to believe in god, a basic human right. This mocking of prayer, I don't understand but the hoards and mobs definitely interpret that differently that I do. And it is, after all, the exact same words we are looking at. And also in pointing out the basic human right of freedom FROM religion, I'm not promoting any anti-christian sentiment, or anti-atheistic sentiment, jut equal rights for all people.
I have asked this question repeatedly and I'll ask it again. Long before the christians created this debacle, It was asked why Jeremy did NOT promote his pro-christian views on the show? If TLC is such a christian-promoting network as Anne portrays them, then why not? For years thinking people have asked that question and for years the supporters have never answered it. I will ask again, if the network is banning any promotion of the church, how strong is Jeremy's resolve?
Now, as I do have a life I must attend to duties to reality, but there two more items that I feel are in question. Thank you.

wow said...

What in the world??? You're trying to kick him off the internet? LMFAO I hope you're joking. He didn't say a damn thing that was out of line. You're acting as if a teenage boy declaring that he is not religious is the equivalent of Hitler declaring war on Baby Jesus. We have things called freedom of religion and freedom of speech. People are aloud to hold- or not hold- whatever beliefs that they want to and they are aloud to talk about them. Calm down.

Anonymous said...

Anne go up to your pastor or another MATURE, rational, educated Christian and let them read Jacob's posts themselves. If their response is not 100% different than yours you need to find a different church. I'm embarrassed for all Christians right now.

Judy said...

Let me be the first to say that I hope Jeremy shows Jacob a subtle message of what he is doing to the family.

Jeremy's wedding is just around the corner (and Jacob conveniently comes up with this to destroy what should be a happy time).

I hope that Jeremy intentionally keeps Jacob out of his wedding party to show him a lesson. I hope he doesn't make Jacob a groomsmen. I thought I heard Jacob was going to be one. I hope Jeremy uses this to reconsider and Jacob will know exactly why.

FB said...

It's interesting how we never hear much about Zach's religious beliefs as we do with Jeremy and Molly. Wonder why?

Kelly said...

Podge/Rodge groupie, the reason Anne's tweets don't show up when you look at Jeremy's, Amy's and Audrey's twitter pages is because they haven't replied to her.

But she wrote to them. If you go to the search bar and search @JeremyJRoloff you will see Anne's tweets.

On twitter when someone @ you, it shows up on your notifications that someone is mentioning you.

They've gotten Anne's tweets. They just haven't replied to her. Like Anne said, I think it is perfectly reasonable that they haven't as they probably don't want to make a public spectacle out of a family crisis. It doesn't mean that they don't agree with Anne and agree that Jacob should lose his internet access and get his accounts deleted.

Gail said...

I want Jacob to go to John Mark Comer and tell him what he is feeling. God is doing wonderful things using JMC. I have full confidence that John Mark could guide Jacob back to Jesus if Jacob gave him a chance.

What do you say, Jacob?
I think you owe it to your family to try.

Podge/Rodge groupie said...

Thank you, Kelly. I don't know how Twitter works and I thought it better to just ask instead of making rude and rash assumptions. As I mentioned I do not have a twitter account, so I don't sign in, I'm a little confused about the search bar on the left thing, but everything you said makes perfect sense. Maybe I should just make myself an account. I follow lots of tweeters, but I don't think people will be interested in what I have to say. Especially if this blog is any indication lol! Thanks again.

Ashley said...

Interesting Instagram caption from Stephanie (Jacob's ex girlfriend) in light of everything lately.

It's a picture of her and some boy. She was at a Christian camp where Audrey was one of the mentors.

At Malibu many friendships were made. The one I have with @alexconradt69 has been life changing. To instantly meet someone and feel in your heart that they will play an important role in your life is very rare. I trust this guy with my life and I'm beyond thankful to have him be apart of it. On another note I'm so genuinely happy for this guy in taking further steps with his relationship with Christ by being baptized yesterday. I can't explain how much my heart felt for you yesterday and I'm honored to have been there to witness the glorious event. I can't wait to see where our friendship takes us. Love you Alex! Ecclesiastes 4:9-10 Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their work: If one falls down, his friend can help him up. But pity the man who falls and has no one to help him up!

Van Barton said...

Deborah, I have no idea who Audrey IS, and even less of an inclination to find out. I don't follow the Roloffs, and have not "discussed" them--if discussion is how you term what you do. My experience consists totally of watching Matt Roloff brag before a crowd for 20 minutes; he did not impress me as being especially "Christian", and yes, I have every right to say that.
My lesson plan is about people who obsess over tv personalities they do not, and never will, know, and how much of real life they sacrifice to do that. So thanks for contributing.

Rap541 said...

The only reason he has an audience is because of the show which was built on Christian values and supported by Jesus followers.


Rather than post a litany of unChristian actions portrayed on the showand off by the Roloffs, I'm just going to ask - if the show is so supported by Christians then why don't Matt and Amy and Jeremy feel comfortable stating their position on gay marriage as it pertains to their beliefs?

Anonymous said...

How very Christian of you...

Anonymous said...

I called this year's ago when jacob was looking up to mueller .He was A very bad influence on jacob, and now look at him

Brandon said...

Anon, the ironic thing is Mueller IS a Christian, "thank you Jesus" kind of guy in the mold of Jeremy (ie. thinks he's a great Christian but his actions make it very very very questionable...).

Connor said...

Jacob is the only Roloff who will ever say what he feels about issues. For that, he has my respect.

Mike P said...

Like the preacher's son, Jacob has seen the fraud and the hypocrisy up close and personal.

And he has come to an absolutely honest, absolutely appropriate conclusion: he is not a part of it.

He deserves every ounce of respect I can offer him—and I send it to him without reservation; if I could, I'd wrap him in my arms and hug him.

I do not worry about Jacob. He is turning out right.

Vic Rattlehead said...

It's easy to be an idiotic slave to the irrational and covet blind faith like jeremy does, it's considerably harder to be a rational thinking individual who knows the difference between fantasy and reality like Jacob.

Johnny Reb said...

Anne B:

You clearly have no understanding of how free speech is defined by the constitution because if you did you'd know what a load of bollocks your post was.

Jacob has every right to make statements in the public domain about religion religious beliefs and religious people and his speech is protected by the constitution and 200 years of Supreme Court rulings about what is considered free speech.

Unless he was defaming a specific person in a slanderous/libelous way or was inciting either violence or creating the threat of major public disorder (ie: shouting fire in a crowded theater) you have no right to say that he should be punished for stating his factual opinions.

"You tell me I'm a sinner, I've got news for you,
I spoke to god this morning, and he doesn't like you"
(Ozzy Osbourne~I Don't Wanna Change The World)

Maggie said...

I wanna see the Roloffs kick Jacob out. The Roloffs are Christians. Christians watch their show. Now Jacob doesn't even want to be a Christian? He's such a jerk and a betrayer.

Deborah said...

"He deserves every ounce of respect I can offer him—and I send it to him without reservation; if I could, I'd wrap him in my arms and hug him. I do not worry about Jacob. He is turning out right."

Mike P. You should be ashamed. You hate God and Christians so much that it makes you happy to see a teenager reject Christ. But this is about Jacob's soul and the direction of his life. To praise him for turning his back on Jesus is atrocious. The last thing Jacob needs is encouragement for bashing Christianity, prayer and the afterlife.

scooter said...

Maggie, kicking a person out because he is not a Christian and you are is not the Christian thing to do

Wiki said...

What is Jacob? A conservative? A liberal? A libertarian? What best describes him?

He doesn't believe in Jesus Christ of the Bible. He doesn't believe in prayer. He doesn't care about what happens after death.

He is pro Marijuana and other drugs.

He is pro guns.

He is anti-Gun control

The one subject he shies away from is homosexuality. Gay marriage? He won't answer. He says he care what gays do but he doesn't want gays talking to him or hanging around him if they make it known they're gay.

He is anti-Israel.

He distrusts the American Government.

He believes in conspiracy theories.

Maggie said...

No Scooter you are wrong. Christians need to hold others accountable.

I listened to a podcast that Jeremy shared once from John Mark Comer. He talked about this very thing.

John Mark Comer spoke about someone who was working for the Church who was not living a moral life. He explained that they prayed for and realized that God wanted them to hold accountable for how he was living. They kicked him out of the Church. Some time later that same person found Jesus again. He thanked them for forcing him to realize the error of his ways. Then they welcomed him back into their Church.

The Roloffs need to do the same with Jacob.

Johnny Reb said...

"I want Jacob to go to John Mark Comer and tell him what he is feeling. God is doing wonderful things using JMC. I have full confidence that John Mark could guide Jacob back to Jesus if Jacob gave him a chance."

So the best thing to do would be to take Jacob to a two bit con artist/false prophet to be "saved"?

Gail perhaps you need to get your nose out of the bible and get some psychotherapy.

Johnny Reb said...

"his anti-Israeli and pro-Palestine politics."

Andrea:

anyone with a functioning brain can see that the Israeli's are committing war crimes during their current "excursion" into Gaza.

The problem is that christian zionists and most other pro-israel sycophants are too stupid and to blind to see whats right in front of their faces and call it what it is: genocide.

"I march before a martyred world, an army for the fight
I speak of great heroic days, of victory and might
I hold a banner drenched in blood, I urge you to be brave
I lead you to your destiny, I lead you to your grave"
~Motorhead

Dan said...

"please just tell me what I have to do to get Jacob kicked off the internet so that he can stop trying to tell other people to kill Christ. People need more Jesus! Not less!"

Where have I heard that before.....?

Oh yes,

In excerpts of David Koresh's sermons to the cult members he eventually murdered in Waco Texas

Anonymous said...

Maggie,
You need to be "kicked out" of America!

Until you realize what freedom of speech is, and what freedom of religion is... you should be tossed out on your ear.

Maybe when you start believing in the Bill of Rights again... we might let you back in.

Sincerely,
The United States Constitution,
Law

Podge/Rodge groupie said...

Anon, and you DO realize what freedom FROM religion is??????
I don't think you do.

Dan, you will have to find Jacob's quote, not YOUR interpretaion, where he is telling people to kill Christ.

I certianly could not find it.

Anonymous said...

Good thing my parents are better than most of the Christians on this web-site. They are atheist and when I converted to the Catholic faith, they supported me even through my religious beliefs were the complete opposite of theirs.

Hawkins said...

Some of you people are praising such a disrespectful and rude kid simply because some of you aren't Christians.

Jacob is an obnoxious, know it all brat. He deserves zero praise. No respect.

He thinks it's cool to not care what anyone thinks of him. You know what kind of people don't care? Completely selfish people who don't give any thought about other people and how they treat them. What people think of you DOES matter regardless of your religion if you care at all about what kind of mark you leave in the world. I'm not talking about being a brilliant inventor or curing cancer. You can be a positive influence or a negative influence. You can do even small things that set things in motion for others to become better. Or you can do things that set things in motion to set off a chain reaction of negative happenings. People who "Don't care" like Jacob do the latter.

Look at his recent answer to "What was the stupidest question you've got on ask? The majority of them". He's got a lot of good questions and I'm sure many more that he's ignored as well.

Alas, he calls almost everybody stupid. The stupid people who don't matter. Only Jacob is smart and right and the only person in the world whose opinion matters.

He has a gigantic ego. Praising this brat simply because he does not want to be a Christian is idiotic.

Alice said...

Hawkins,
I agree 100%
Any good parent would ban Jacob from the internet for a number of violations.
He is an awful person.

Marretje said...

I've read all the messages. that is incomprehensible that you so busy to worry about jacob he does not believe in it. look good again: Matt and Amy have a disability and together have given birth to four beautiful children. they raised them how and what makes us nothing. it's that they follow them with their hearts and feelings good and not good. Be respectful, social, loving and health together. how you talk negatively about jacob will feel vulnerable. Amy and maft they are grateful to be with disabilities is very special and unique. Amy and Matt as parents I find really amazing to see how people live longer visible. you just talk about faith? jacob's only human with heart and brain. that you can not force him to kick out. roloffs of that's no respect! I feel pretty jacob he wanted to say in one. you must remember that his words and practice, but what he does is not our thing. if he is happy is important. also for other roloffs. I also have restriction not hetzelfe as Matt and Amy and Zach. yet I feel more worthy who I am and what I have. I make it clear: I respect how you believe that Christians etc. but how you talked about jacob is disturbed onrespect and incomprehensible. We are only human !!

HJ said...

The majority of these comments make me embarrassed to be a human. Why do you even care so much about a teenage guy whom you have never met? How can you stoop so low as to call a child (not 18 yet) an awful person? Then you turn around and call yourself a "Christian"!

He is doing what all teenagers do, questioning the world and his place in it and trying to find himself. Questioning is a very healthy thing to do. Can any of you actually claim that you did not push some boundaries as a teen?

Seriously. Get over yourselves.

Vic Rattlehead said...

"Some of you people are praising such a disrespectful and rude kid simply because some of you aren't Christians.

Jacob is an obnoxious, know it all brat. He deserves zero praise. No respect.

He thinks it's cool to not care what anyone thinks of him. You know what kind of people don't care? Completely selfish people who don't give any thought about other people and how they treat them. What people think of you DOES matter regardless of your religion if you care at all about what kind of mark you leave in the world. I'm not talking about being a brilliant inventor or curing cancer. You can be a positive influence or a negative influence. You can do even small things that set things in motion for others to become better. Or you can do things that set things in motion to set off a chain reaction of negative happenings. People who "Don't care" like Jacob do the latter.

Look at his recent answer to "What was the stupidest question you've got on ask? The majority of them". He's got a lot of good questions and I'm sure many more that he's ignored as well.

Alas, he calls almost everybody stupid. The stupid people who don't matter. Only Jacob is smart and right and the only person in the world whose opinion matters."

I take it that you missed that whole part of the bible that teaches against being judgmental, you know the whole judge not lest ye be judged thing"

"He has a gigantic ego. Praising this brat simply because he does not want to be a Christian is idiotic."

Sort of the same why that sycophants like you blindly praise Jeremy for being the mindless follower of a conman (John Mark Comer) who preaches a false message of "prophesy, piety and purity" to the ignorant people in his flock while using the sunday collection money to pay for his lavish lifestyle.


"Evangelistic Nazis,
you cannot frighten me
The name you take in vain shall judge you for eternity"
(Motorhead)

Hawkins said...

HJ, prove that my points are incorrect.

Jacob is an awful person. It's a statement of fact.

Cindy said...

What do people make of Jeremy refusing to answer any questions about Jacob and God?

Anonymous said...

You people need to get over yourselves... trying to control a 17 year old young man is not only futile, it is insane.

May I suggest a visit to your local psychotherapist to each of you Bible thumpers?

Further, what would Jesus do?

Well, I can tell you what he would NOT do... doubtful he would persecute and publically rally negative sentiment against a 17 year old.

Shame on you judgmental Christian's... Your actions more closely resemble the Pharisees.

Rap541 said...

Cindy, I am certainly not surprised.

Cindy said...

Rap, why not? I thought Jeremy might prove people wrong and give at least a sentence answer considering it is his brother.

Hawkins said...

Jacob does a fine job all by himself of rallying negative sentiment against him. Being egocentric, self centered, insulting and not caring about anyone but himself does tend to do that. He's an awful person. I've yet to see one person who can argue against my points. Jacon Roloff is a disgraceful person.

phyllis said...

The emptiness and loneliness Jacob feels will never go away until he accepts Jesus into his heart.

Allison said...

LOL No one should be surprised. Jacob has been a fouled mouth piece of drug using scum that has no empathy for anyone outside of his bubble.

It has been ridiculous to see Spiritswander and some people here try to promote Jacob as anythong but a jerk.

Jacob has no room for God or anyone. I fully support kicking Jacob off and shutting his mouth.

Tammy said...

Jacob will come back to Christ when he's presentfor Jeremy's and Audrey's wedding which will be Jesus focused. Only someone without a conscience could hear all that and think Jesus is silly.

Btw, I agree Jacob doesn't deserve to have public pages on the 'net. Tell him it's to protect himself. His judgment skills are obviously impaired, he won't figure out the real reason.

sam said...

Jacob is high a lot of the time, thinks hecis the only one of importance. Of course he's not a Christian.

James said...

I don't hate Jacob, It his choice. But he is incredibly stupid.

Don't ask me. Ask the Bible.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Psalm 14:1
To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good.

James 4:7-10
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Be wretched and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you.

John 9:30-33
The man answered, "Why, this is an amazing thing! You do not know where he comes from, and yet he opened my eyes. We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him. Never since the world began has it been heard that anyone opened the eyes of a man born blind. If this man were not from God, he could do nothing."

John 3:5
Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God."

Ezekiel 33:9
But if you warn the wicked to turn from his way, and he does not turn from his way, that person shall die in his iniquity, but you will have delivered your soul.

James 5:16
Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.

Proverbs 3:5-7
Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths. Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, and turn away from evil.

Hebrews 11:6
And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.


Van Barton said...

HJ---you made one of the few sensible remarks I read here.
When I think of these same folks who are promoting/posting their version of acting Christlike getting to go to the polls, I don't wonder how foolish people get elected. Pretty scary mob-like intensity revelations from the very misguided.

Paula said...

Even if you agree with Jacob's religious views, I can't believe ANYONE can like the kid. He is so obnoxious. Give him 2 answers and if he didn't insult someone or suggest that he's the end all and be all of the world, he will do it in the next answer. Awful doesn't even begin to describe what kind of person Jacob is.

Elaine said...

Cindy, Jeremy is probably not allowed to comment. Don't interpret Jeremy's lack of comment with a lack of caring.

Elaine said...

Jeremy and Audrey prayed to God to find them a place to live and to allow them to get the place they wanted. God delivered. Prayer works. Sad if Jacob can't see it because he's too high.

Rap541 said...

Cindy, Jeremy is probably not allowed to comment.

And who is forbidding Jeremy comment and why?

Is it that Jeremy is still under Daddy Matt's thumb at 24 and Daddy Matt speaks for the "children" and Jeremy is still a child who can't speak without his daddy's approval? Because he's getting a little old for that.

Or is it TLC forbidding Jeremy? Because then Jeremy is keeping his mouth shut on his brother for the *money*.

Anonymous said...

Did you guys take your meds this week?

Podge/Rodge groupie said...

Rap, I ahve trying to seek this informaiotn for a long time, and NONE of the 'supporters' have seen fit to provide an answer. it's not even funny anymore how they skirt true issues that contradict any of thier arguments.
My quesiton has been: IF Jeremy says nothing on the show about his faith and his walk with Jesus, how strong is his resolve? IF tLC is gagging him, yet he won't proclaim his walk with jesus, how strong is his resolve? If daddy is censuring him becasue of daddy' love for attention (first, I beleive) and money (second), How strong is his resolve? IF Jeremy is not saying anything about his faith or his walk with Jesus, because of the money he is receiving, how strong is his resolve?

Podge/Rodge groupie said...

I was going to put these two questions together, but I think it will be more clear if they are separated.
There has been someone harrassing Jacob on his Ask.fm about doing an interview with Spiritswander.
My question is: why is nobody harrassing Jeremy to do an interview with Spiritswander?
I feel the parallel is the same. The person on Jacob's ask says,
"You filter your own questions here. The point of a real interview is the person answering doesn't pick the questions. Although Spiritswander has been pro-you in the last while, it would be interesting if you were prepared to be truthful."
Now, I would imagine some of you thinks that's fair. Ok, fine. BUT why is Jeremy NOT put to the same question? WHY does Jeremy not have to answer for himself. WHY does Jeremy not answer about being able to filter his questions on his Twitter, and be prepared to be truthful?
Jacob gave his answer to the quesiton on his ask, why is Jeremy not put to the quesiton?
Why does he at least not tell us why he does not want to do an interview with Spiritswander? I bet if Jeremy is asked this on his Twitter, you would NEVER see the question or his reply. He will ignore it.
One more time, if Jeremy does not answer the question, and if Jeremy tells us what he feels could possibly stand in his way of proclaiming the messages of Jesus, how strong is his resolve?

Brandon said...

Podge, gotta be fair, Jeremy has been consistently criticized for a long period of time for not doing an interview.

Jeremy doesn't have an Ask where you can see people throw it in his face.

Jacob is ahead of Jeremy because he sometimes will state his opinion on a subject, but like the question he got on ask said, it is not the same as doing an interview because on ask Jacob is able to control the questions, filter the follow ups.

Jacob seems to pride himself on the fact that he does say what he thinks. I think it was reasonable for him to be asked if he would do an interview with Spirits when he could.

I like that Jacob answers things, but his response was a cop out. I only answer Ask because I'm bored I don't care what people think of me. Typical Roloff response unfortunately.

It is right up there with Jeremy's (he expresses his thoughts through retweets and quotes) when Jeremy quoted his pastor buddy saying "Don't waste your time explaining yourself to people determined to hate you".

That's a nice cop out. An across the board excuse to never face the music, to never need to explain yourself.

There is a basic honor in taking on the hard questions and explaing yourself and a cowardice in the Roloff way.

It comes down to all Roloffs including Jacob, thinking if someone doesn't agree with them and dares to ask about an issue they don't like, that person is a Hater who doesn't deserve a response because their opinion doesn't matter if they're not agreeing with said Roloff.

Podge/Rodge groupie said...

Brandon, we agree that is was reasonable for Jacob to be asked to do an interview. However, why is it NOT reasonable to have Jeremy also answer in public why he does not want to do an interview? In one way Brandon, I think Jeremy is the bigger cop-out in all this. Jeremy uses his Twitter for his selected retweets and the usual pithy thoughts on the subjects that suit him. Fine. it is his Twitter account and he can do what he wants with it. The problem is, we will NEVER know if Jeremy has ever been asked, via an tweet he does not feel he has to reply to or a direct message he repsonds to, why he feels he does not want to do an interview with Spiritswander.
At the very least, Jacob made the choice to publish the quesiton. With what some people feel is a cop-out answer. Jeremy has NEVER chose to publish the question with any kind of answer.
Everyone see the same print in the same accounts on the same media.

Anonymous said...

Christian camp = brainwashing. Let children find their own truth.

Anonymous said...

How many of these Christians ever questioned their beliefs? How many just accepted everything they were told? Congratulations to Jacob for trying to find his own way. Takes courage.

Jacob45 said...

"Jacob will come back to Christ when he's presentfor Jeremy's and Audrey's wedding which will be Jesus focused. Only someone without a conscience could hear all that and think Jesus is silly.
Btw, I agree Jacob doesn't deserve to have public pages on the 'net. Tell him it's to protect himself. His judgment skills are obviously impaired, he won't figure out the real reason."

You're right, Tammy, Jacob's judgement is so bad he won't understand why they'd try to take his internet away....

Oh, wait.... Jake has said on Ask.Fm that he reads Spiritswander -- do you really think he's thick enough not to put two and two together?

Honestly, I think it's a joke any of you think you can ban Jacob from the internet. Really, there is a thing called "Freedom of Speech" and as far as I know, it *does* include the right to speek freely of your religious opinions, (which btw is exactly what you're doing when you claim "Jacob will come back to Christ".) How is what Jacob's saying any worse?

"Only someone without a conscience could hear all that and think Jesus is silly." What is your definition of "silly", Tammy? Because if you mean "think Jesus is silly" as in a nonbeliever, then you are saying that all nonbelievers of Jesus don't have a conscious?

Or to "think Jesus is silly" could mean that atheists don't have a conscience *if* they think Jesus is silly?

What, exactly, do you mean Tammy?

Tammy said...

Jacob45, It's not freedom of speech. It's business contracts.

It's the same reason why Audrey is not allowed to blog about her relationship with Jeremy even though she wanted to. She wasn't given permission.

Jacob is damaging the product by displaying an anti Christian attitude to a predominantly Christian supported show.

TLC has every right to kick Jacob off of Ask and twitter.

Sports teams do it all the time when players say something stupid on twitter. It's not a freedom of speech issue.

Jacob45 said...

Tammy, I agree that Jacob is "damaging the product by displaying an anti Christian attitude to a predominantly Christian supported show."

However, Jacob also seemed somewhat averse to gays (I find his standpoint vague). Somehow, his religious beliefs (not being a Christian) has garnered more attention and warranted more concern than his possible anti-LGBT beliefs. Should I remind you LPBW is ABOUT DIVERSITY?

Of course it's not okay for Jacob to demean Christianity. But it's never okay to demean anything, *especially* if you're on a show about *diversity*. And *especially* if what you're demeaning is a minority group. (Btw Christianity is not a minority in the USA, whatsoever.) is Christianity a minority group in other countries? Yes.

Is it okay for Jacob to renounce Christianity? Nothing wrong with that, except that it might hurt ratings.

Might I remind you about Jeremy James Jesus' racial slurs, which he never apologized about? I see that as a lot worse than Jacob's less-blatant homophobia, because Jacob says he has a gay friend whom he accepts and supports gay marriage.


"TLC has every right to kick Jacob off of Ask and twitter." Is TLC allowed to kick Jacob off social media? Maybe. But if they didn't do it for Jer's racial slurs, I don't think they'll do it for Jake, either.

"It's the same reason why Audrey is not allowed to blog about her relationship with Jeremy even though she wanted to. She wasn't given permission." The reason Jer and Audrey aren't allowed to talk about their wedding or their relationship is because (I'm guessing) there will be an episode about it, and spoiling an episode probably *would* be against contract. (Although Matt spoiled Rocky's death so maybe it's not a huge violation?)

Also, Jer and Audrey are getting PAID to be on the show, so that's a big motivation to keep their mouths shut. Jake isn't getting paid yet, so naturally, that money means virtually nothing to him right now.

Is Jacob under contract, too? Of course, but as of right now (and for the next 6 or so months) Jacob is a minor. So if he screws up and goes against contact.... Well, technically, that falls on mommy and daddy. Because parents are, ultimately, responsible for their 16-year-old MINOR son when he goes against contract.

If speaking out about renouncing Christianity was illegal, if demeaning Christianity was illegal, then Jake would be in juvie. But it's not.

And I don't think a 16-year-old breaching a contract is serious enough to be jail-worthy, seeing as it's not like LPBW is Hannah Montana (and Miley Cyrus stopped her show before her contract was up, and she got away with it, among other things worse than renouncing and demeaning Christianity).


Jacob45 said...

Tammy, also "Sports teams do it all the time when players say something stupid on twitter. It's not a freedom of speech issue."

Money, fame and passion are just a few reasons athletes might choose to abide by their social media restrictions.

Jacob isn't getting any of the money right now, and never has.

Jacob isn't into the fame (except for in regards to Ask.fm, take that away and he'll no longer care).

Jacob certainly doesn't have a passion for LPBW.

The only reason Jacob would abide by the contact is if Matt or Amy give him a reason to, and we all know Amy finished parenting when Jake was 12, and Matt goes on solo vacations regularly.
They both allowed Jacob to go on vacation with the family to Australia, aware he was failing and faced the prospect of being expelled from Faith Bible.
When Jake got expelled, they put him in public school instead of finding a different private school. (Nothing wrong with that, except that Amy held down two or three jobs to keep them in private school a while earlier, so she must really believe in it) -- why not try to get Jake into another one?

JacobR said...

Auj cant talk about it because it's the core subject matter of an episdoe lol. No fun if she blogged and gave the whole thing away, my faith however, isn't the basis of an episode, so free speech most definitely applies haha.

Timothy said...

Jacob45, I wouldn't be so naive. I don't believe Jacob has a real gay friend that he actually hangs out. At least not a male gay friend that he hangs out with.

I like some things about Jacob. Dislike other things. But, his homophobia is blatantly obvious if you pay attention. It's not a hatred, it is...homophobia. It makes him very uncomfortable therefore he's not capable of having a normal friendship with a guy who is gay.

Tammy said...

Jacob has no right to "free speech".

He is a minor. His parents signed the contract with TLC on behalf. Therefore, Jacob is bound to a contract and TLC has control over him. He has no grounds to say whatever he wants if it hurts the product (the LPBW franchise).

Dustin said...

Well said, Timothy. You took the words out of my mouth.

Jacob has it in his mind that if he is friends with a gay person it would mean he has to be gay himself.

That in itself is homophobic on many levels.

It annoys me how (especially straight teenagers) have this belief that any gay person is going to so attracted to them that they are going to attack them sexually.

Read Jacob's answers. He definitely has a hang up on that.

He would be friends with a girl who was attracted to him but who he wasn't interested in physically. He would be friends.

But ask Jacob if he would be friends with a gay guy who found him attractive and Jacob says no he wouldn't hang out with him because he's "not interested in guys".

Jacob has one version and the gay kid at school has another. The gay kid who said the terrible thing of "Jacob is attractive" says he knows Jacob hates him, talked bad about him about how he doesn't like him because he's gay.

That puts Jacob's "I don't have a problem with gays" into perspective when there is real live example where a gay kid who simply said Jacob is good looking says Jacob talked bad about and didn't like him solely based on him complimenting Jacob.

That is homophobia big time.

It's not unusual for 17 year old guys, but that's what Jacob is...homophobic.

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