Saturday, August 8, 2015

Roloff Commentary By Guest Columnist Anne Bailey - Jeremy & Audrey Roloff Move to Bend, Oregon & Dream Of Being On Dancing With The Stars

Anne J. Bailey here. Hello friends and readers. Thank you for the emails and support encouraging me to continue with my column.

And that's what it will be now. People have been asking me so often what I think of this and that with the news about a Roloff or something they posted during the week, that my column won't be limited to an episode content which is made for television anyway.. I will still comment on certain themes in the episode but it will be broader. I will speak my mind giving the Christian perspective about what people want to hear about.

Let's get started.

The big news both in the episode and then which they shared on their blog is that Jeremy and Audrey have left Los Angeles to move back to Oregon. They have moved to Bend, Oregon.

Jer & Auj were thankful for the amazing friends they met through Jesus, but the "LA" way of life was not for them. God has guided them back to where their souls feel most comfortable. They are meant to live in a place where they can appreciate nature and the beauty God created. As Matt said on the show, Jeremy's heart is in Oregon.





Some hateful, anti Christian people immediately tried to disparage Jeremy and Audrey with comments attributing their move to a "failure" or snarky comments about "God  made a mistake by sending them to LA".

I must respond to that comment and educate the ignorant. When you pray to God and ask Jesus to guide you, God will never make a mistake. You (or ignorant others) might not realize the plan, but there is always a plan. God sent Jeremy and Audrey to Los Angeles for a reason. It wasn't a mistake. It could have been to forge relationships with other Christians who will come back into their life at later date and provide great blessings. It could have been to send the message to them to appreciate their surroundings so they fully realize how blessed they are by God to live where they are now. Jeremy and Audrey understand that. It's about time all the people on this blog understand that.

My next topic this week is Tori.. It was another week where Tori was coming across as bossy and giving indications that she has many of Amy's unfortunate traits.

I need to share this with my audience. Many people already know but if you aren't aware, you can email me at bailey.anne83@hotmail.com .

I would like to thank the following person. It was an email from a Christian who is a little person thanking me for speaking the truth on this blog in the name of Jesus. They praised my assessment and urged that we pray for Tori to reign in some of her potential damaging characteristics. I won't name the person who has played on Zach's team in the past at little people events because I don't need to cause unwanted drama, however they told me that the majority of  Zach's little person's friends are put off by Tori's influence on Zach and that it is well known that Tori discourages Zach from his friendships with little people. I was told to let my audience know to pay special attention to the lack of Zach's little people friends at Zach's wedding. You'll notice that Audrey doesn't try to control Jeremy's friendships. I feel that Tori really needs to read Timothy Keller's book "The Meaning of Marriage" to prevent herself from becoming the type of person who is destructive to the marriage (see Amy).

Thirdly, yes, a lot of people were commenting on Jacob's very brief "contribution" to the episode which consisted of his incoherent muttering the word "yeah" when Matt asked if he planned on living at Roloff Farms one day.

There is so much wrong with that. I won't even elaborate now about what it says about Jacob's lack of character that it's in his plans to live of the farm they build which he contributed nothing towards and  in fact complained and attempted to destroy the means to keep it, and the constant disrespect for his family yet he's ready to run back to mooch with no guilt, but I disgress.

We need to send prayers to the remaining Roloffs. Pray that they wake up. Pray that they realize the easy way that they're choosing, which is to ignore Jacob's drug use and destructive and disrespectful behavior and his immoral values. Ignoring it while granting him all the privileges of  being an honorable person is ultimately destructive to Jacob himself as well as the family. Extending that invitation to Jacob was a grave mistake on Matt's part if it was legitimate offer. Even if it was for "show" it sends a poor message. 

Finally, I urge you to follow Audrey's blog here. On a fun note, Audrey and Jeremy attended the "Move" Tour with Audrey's parents who love the show "Dancing With The Stars". Audrey's mother, Cendi Botti, volunteered Jeremy to go up on stage for a dance competition and Jeremy got picked. He did fabulous job of course!   Audrey Shared the video, click below.

Click here to see Audrey's video of Jeremy dancing on stage at the Move Tour. 

Audrey has shared that she now has a dream to be on "Dancing With The Stars" with Jeremy. I often talk about Christian influence in the media and entertainment. It would be a blessing for the millions of Dancing With The Stars viewers to be exposed to Jeremy and Audrey's Christ guided life. Make your voice heard and let's get Jeremy and Audrey on the show!

That is it for this week. Until next week, keep asking God for guidance while remembering  all that you have to do is listen and act. Be the person God asks of you.   

122 comments:

Brandon said...

Isn't there more "Godly" things for Audrey to be praying about than for her and Jeremy to be trying to get a dance show to enhance their own fame?

If Audrey talks to God as she says she does, God tells her to sell "Beauty cream" (only when they give her a kickback though for free product, right?!?) and to make it her dream to be on a television dancing competition to get attention and gain celebrity status.

Forget about feeding the poor, helping the sick, friending the friendless, nope, Jesus commands sell beauty cream and get on Dancing With The Stars!

Debbie said...

Thank you Anne! I'look forward to reading your thoughts every week.

I agree with you on all three points.

God gives each person a gift and passion. Jeremy and Audrey are meant to live a country life, not the corrupt California lifestyle. I'm glad they're back where they belong.

Jeremy is talented at everything he does. I have no doubt Audrey will get her wish soon.

Gina said...

Anne, I couldn't agree more about trusting God even if you don't know the reason for it at the time. God knows more than I do, lol.

That's a shame about Tori. Perhaps she feels she doesn't fit in and doesn't like Zach connecting with anybody besides her. That seems like an insecurity.

I share your disappointment in the Roloffs unwillingness to hold Jacob accountable for anything he says or does.

I hadn't seen the videos. I never knew Jeremy was such a great dancer. Jeremy and Audrey would be perfect for the show. I have a feeling it will happen with prayer.

Rap541 said...

Anne, care to address your lauding of Audrey's marital advice that you called wise and gave her credit for being obviously lifted from an admittedly Christian website?

Also, on Dancing With the Stars - to be fair, I don't watch it as I find it as dull as paint, but here are some thoughts.

Judging by the guest lists, Jeremy and Audrey just aren't big enough to get asked unless Dancing really starts scraping the bottom of the barrel. They do cast reality whores - so Jer and Auj would join Snooki, Kate Gosselin, The Situation, and Bristol Palin in honor (ahem). Also a Kardashian, Tommy Chong, and Michael Sam.

More interestingly, God won't be answering this prayer for both. Couples aren't cast. It would be one or the other, and it would really be Jeremy who has the chance. And from a stunt casting standpoint, I suspect the producers would prefer Amy or Zach, to get the diversity factor. Amy in particular, coming off a divorce, could have a fun "inspiring" arc. But... my bigger point is that they don't cast *couples* so God is gonna dash someone's dream....

Anonymous said...

Zach's little people friends live in different states and only turn up on the show when there are LP events or if the show flies them in. If they don't want to confront Zach directly about his choice of wife, then they aren't very good friends and Anne, you are stirring the pot and making trouble. Jesus would not approve of your actions.

Kelly said...

Lol Audrey doing God's work getting trashed in Portland with her friends. Follow her on snapchat to see how she really spends her time... I got about five videos of her and her friends drunk and dancing. Yeah they're over 21 but still. Is that what spreading God's love is about? Am I good Christian if I go get drunk with my friends? She and Jeremy are such a joke.

Mydick Hurts said...

Gina said " I never knew Jeremy was such a great dancer. Jeremy and Audrey would be perfect for the show. I have a feeling it will happen with prayer."
...
Jeremy with gods blessings can achieve anything that he wants. Gina is right, if Jeremy prays hard enough & long enough i am sure the lord god o'mighty will grant his wish to be on dancing with the stars. All this thru prayer.

Ecossais said...


Brandon,
You are wasting your time. The god squad on here are besotted with Jeremy like love smitten teenagers.

According to Debbie:
"Jeremy is talented at whatever he does". What notable thing has he ever done?
"Audrey will get her wish". Why? Jesus already sent her off on a wild goose chase to L.A. Now she wants to flaunt her over-painted body on TV and she is such a good Christian that god will grant her wish!!

Gina says:
"I never knew Jeremy was such a great dancer" and "Jeremy and Audrey would be PERFECT!!

Give me a break - shot from such a distance you cannot actually recognize the wonderful Jeremy Jesus.

"That's a shame about Tori". WTF!!!!!! What is a shame about Tori you meddling old busybody?


Ecossais said...

Why did they move to Bend? Is the Roloff mansion on 100 plus acres not good enough for Prince Jer and Princess Audrey?
With Amy alone (empty nest remember) in that huge house and Matt in a trailer it is not like the Roloffs need another property.
Of course maybe jesus told Audrey to move to an upmarket snobby area where they can SEE AND BE SEEN as the "famous" people they are.

Janet said...

Anne, Thank you so much. We need more people like you speaking up on blogs and more people like Jeremy and Audrey on our television screens. Go Jesus!

Jocelynn said...

Amy has been trying to get on Dancing With The Stars for years...

Paula said...

Why are people trying to discourage Audrey's dream? God wants His people to be happy and to reach for the stars. If she wants to be on Dancing With The Stars we should support her. Don't be so hateful.

Rap541 said...

Jocelynn - I seem to recall that as well, that Amy was into it. Again, I think if anyone was chosen, it would be Amy because she's recognizable, Dancing gets the diversity plus points, and Amy can go on about her "journey since the divorce".

Zach would never do it, Jeremy is a longshot to be asked but has been a reality whore for a bit so maybe... and Audrey's claim to fame, to being asked on Dancing with the Stars, is that she married Jer and into the reality show.

Barring a complete changeover in the casting process (which seems unlikely) Dancing won't cast *both* Jer and Auj. And they would more likely cast Amy. And that's if they were really having trouble casting the show because they really don't do a lot of reality whores.

Paula - I am sorry being factual hurts. Is there a reason, aside from "Auj wants it so Jesus will grant it" that you believe Audrey has any sort of chance of being cast on Dancing with the Stars?

Rap541 said...

If praying to Jesus is all it takes, then why does Audrey need any encouragement at all, Paula?


PJ said...

Paula,
We're not trying to discourage Ste Auj, I doubt she sees this anyway. But the reality is that she's not a big enough star to be considered. Baby Prince Jer is barely famous enough and if it didn't happen when they were in L.A. it most likely won't. If she wants to keep hoping and trying, good for her, she may want to consider dance lessons since the show is more stage than social dancing.
The Tori hate is looking more and more like prejudice folks. Like the loons couldn't ever imagine an average size person falling for a LP, like they would need ulterior motives to marry Zach.

Wendy said...

Anne, you are SO right about the Roloffs approach to Jacob. I can only conclude they don't want any public blow ups and that's why they attempt to keep the peace with Jacob by pretending like everything is okay and they don't have a drug using, God-hating, America hating, police hating, unemployed, lost and dark soul for a brother/son/grandson.

Maggie said...

I have no patience for the Roloffs refusal to boot Jacob. What is he doing with his life? Drugs? Encouraging hatred towards police? He doesn't know what it's like to work. He lies. He goes back on his words. He says one thing, does the other. What is he doing now? Another road trip with the girlfriend the dogs to California? How many times is that this year? Maybe he should thank the producers of the show and his parents for getting him on the show. That's the only reason why he's able to do what he's doing. He deserves a wake up call.

Denise said...

Thanks Anne. I will watch for how often Zach's friends dwarf friends are in the wedding episodes.

MS said...

Anne, given how obsessed you are with Jeremy/Audrey, surely you must have some examples of how they're demonstrating their strong Christian values nowadays. Actual verifiable actions beyond words. Anything?

You ramble on and on about Saint Audrey in your past "reviews" and today's column yet make no mention of her anything-for-a-buck-product-peddling which is clearly center-stage on her blog nowadays. Really, no comment? Silent disapproval? I'm sure you can spin it as some positive Christian value like you do with most everything else Jeremy and Audrey do, which at least serves as good comedic value.

You seem to view Tori as competition to Audrey attention-wise for some warped reason as you search hard to find something negative about her. If the best you can do is call her "bossy" in staged scenes, you're really grasping. Is she genuine? Time will tell, but I've seen nothing to think otherwise so far. I think she's been a refreshing addition to the show this season.

Rap541 said...

Denise - when you do your watching, do also watch the other episodes of LPBW where it's made clear that Zach doesn't have any local friends who are dwarfs which means anyone he invites to the wedding who is a dwarf would likely have to cough up for a hotel, a plane ticket and a rental car. And also consider that while Jeremy was often cited as a huge supporter of LPs, in order to justify his prominent place at the LP conventions on the dance floor... I don't recall any of Jeremy's LP friends making it to his larger wedding.

Rap541 said...

Pj - I agree. The endless complaining about Tory just makes me think the complainers can't conceive of the idea of an average height woman choosing a dwarf. When in fact it happens all the time - Peter Dinklage, Marty, Sam Roloff....

She married Zach. She's not so ugly or lacking in personality that she couldn't snag an average height guy of reasonable looks and talents. Audrey wanted the church moved for her wedding and everyone thought it was awesome. Tory wants the church moved and she's a demanding bitch who clearly is a bridezilla. Audrey marries the handsome brother and immediately tarts herself up with makeup and begins loving the camera and living in Los Angeles and openly hoping she'll be cast as a celebrity on Dancing with the Stars.... but Tory is the one who has the ulterior motive because why?

Oh right, Zach is so unacceptable, how could any normal woman want him?

Obviously the original point of this show was lost on a lot of you.

Jamie said...

Clearly the farm/show played a huge part in the Roloff partners dating them. You don't think the farm/show largely enhanced Zach's desirability? Of course it did. It's hard to imagine Tori ever dating Zach without the farm/show. Not saying it's impossible, but I'd wager that statistically the odds would have been greatly reduced. I don't recall how they met, but she likely knew of the show beforehand.

Debbie said...

MS, maybe you should read Audrey's blog that Anne recommended about the meaning of Braid it? Or any of Audrey's wise words on twitter and Instagram giving inspiration to people to let God rule.

Katie said...

"I don't recall how they met, but she likely knew of the show beforehand."

Jamie, she sure did. Rumor has it she was a big fan of the show. The Roloffs used to hire for pumpkin season employees on Craigslist. It's a crappy job. Minimum wage. Weekends for 4 weeks and that's it. Get sent home early with no pay if it's slow. Lets be honest, the only people who applied did it because they thought it would be fun to get to know the Roloffs from the tv show.

Tori applied and started working during pumpkin season. She used that as her in to get to know the Roloffs. I think it shows she's very conniving.

Lauren said...

There's no chance Tori would have dated Zach if he wasn't from Little People Big World.

Rap541 said...

Katie - actually it wasn't minimum wage - Matt used to brag how they paid ten bucks an hour.

Katie - you're also suggesting Roloff Farms is a shitty place to work and the Roloffs are shitty to work for.

Was that actually your point?

But let me ask this more serious question of you, Katie. If you genuinely believe that this was some sort of master plan of Tory's... can you tell us all what Tory gains by having a years long relationship with Zach, who she is now married to? If she didn't fall in love?

Lauren, same question to you - what is Tory gaining by perpetrating this fraud for years?

And where are all the friends and family of Zach allowing this to go on? Matt and Amy and Jeremy and Auj and Molly and even Jacob all seem to like Tory? Are they all fools?

PJ said...

Debbie, the Braid It idea is not Ste Aujs. And I have read her blog. Not so much wise as pendantic. Phoney wisdom from a phoney,limelight seeking child.

MS said...

Debbie, do they demonstrate these values with anything beyond words -- i.e., something that requires actual effort? That's what I meant by actions beyond words.

Pamela said...

People are so unkind to attempt to stomp on Audrey's dream. You don't know what's going to happen. Just because Dancing With The Stars haven't done couples, doesn't mean they won't. Look at all the changes in reality competition shows like Survivor and Big Brother and the Amazing Race. I could realistically see DWTS having a season of couples. Jeremy and Audrey were in People magazine, US magazine and among others for being Newlyweds who captured the hearts of people for their pure love for each other and for Jesus. It would be a great move to have them on the show. In that video, Jeremy showed he's capable.

Timothy said...

I definitely think Jacob can act like a jerk online at times and I'm disappointed on his selling out by backtracking on the show and going for the cash over his principles, but at the end of the day, compare Jacob to the rest of the Roloffs.

While Jacob is talking about important issues (even if you don't agree with him) like police brutality or racial injustice and the Israel/Palestine crisis, Jeremy and Audrey talk about beauty cream and try to get themselves on a celebrity reality show.

And like Spirits has written about before, there is only one Roloff to date that ever had the guts to state his opinion on gay rights or gay marriage. None of the other Roloffs would. They would rather promote themselves or hock products from companies.

Who do I have more respect for? The guy who will talk about important issues and say what he thinks or the ones who are so worried about the show and money that they will never disclose their opinion on anything. The closest Jeremy has come was a couple of weeks ago when he said "I think America needs to wake up"...but it was so vague and random (many issues in the news at the time) that no one had a reasonable idea what he was talking about and he's too scared to actually say what he thinks about a real topic.

The only thing I do agree with Anne and her crowd about (for different reasons) is that I also hope the Roloffs and Jacob separate. The longer Jacob stays connected to them, the more he will become like them. I wish he had made a clean break when he moved out and stuck to his plan to not sign another contract. We already see he stuck around and compromises his values for the sake of money. He would be much better off (even if it's not financially) to distance himself from his family. If he sticks around and goes along with the show and the facade for more years he's going to be just like the rest of them.

Rap541 said...

MS - You know you won't get an answer.

Remember - Audrey has absolutely no claim to fame in life except that she married a reality show whore on a cable channel. This somehow qualifies her to be on DTWS.

Also, the fact that the video is being praised as an example of Jeremy's shining talent is a prime example of Jeremy being overpraised and here's why.

Eccossis is right. The video is so poor I can't identify Jeremy as one of the people on stage. I assume he is one of the two people jumping around, but honestly I don't know how anyone can make any assessment of skill when you can't even tell who is dancing. I saw two people I can't identify doing cartwheels and some bopping while five other people stood on the stage. For all that can be seen in that video, I could just as easily claim *I'm* the one dancing in it.

Eric said...

Jacob hasn't tweeted anything in a day, hopefully that means he's knocked himself out cold again. lol

Denise said...

Timothy, Jacob wouldn't last 3 months without relying on his family and the show that he proclaims to hate and think is so awful. He would get a reality check real quick if the Roloffs did what they should do.

Denise said...

Rap541, Jeremy is the one on the right side of your screen. If you didn't know that, that is your deficiency. Don't blame others who are more observant than you are.

Pamela makes a great point. It would be a great way to freshen the show up. I think it will happen and Jer & Auj would be a hit.

Rap541 said...

Denise - so the shape in the dark shirt?

Denise - since you are observant - please detail the dancing moves you were impressed with. Since you are so observant and this video is SO professionally clear that you can identify the distinct dance moves of this shining talent.

Come on. You just called me deficient for not seeing it. Please educate me with a detailed review of Jeremy's moves. You're the dance expert, not I. From start to finish, describe Jeremy's excellence.

Btw if this was a dance competition... I notice Audrey makes no mention of Jer's shining talent actually winning the competition...

Rap541 said...

Oh and Denise, apparently I am not the only deficient one. Here's a quote from Auj's facebook.

Dina Cimino Aldred We were there. Did not realize it was Jeremy on stage. Amazing show wasn't it.

I assume you will head over to facebook and let Dina Aldred know she's deficient, right? :)

Rachel said...

I agree with Anne, I think it's a bad sign for Zach if Tori is controlling his friendships with LPs because she wants all the intention or is insecure if he bonds with someone other than her.

If it's true that none of Zach's LP friends were at the wedding I think that is shocking considering we saw a lot of those people since Zach was 14 and they knew him for longer than that. He saw them almost every year for the Statesman and LPA stuff. Travelling from out of town for a friends wedding is not unheard of. I doubt that was the reason.

Robert Keeshan said...

Eccossis u follow the Rollofs better than anyone. Over the years we have seen very clearly that Matt has 3 stupid, spoiled boys. None of them excelled at school. All of them are probably unemployable in the real world. None of them are interested in learning how to load a dishwasher at McDonalds or other real world jobs. These 3 should pray on there knees every day that the TLC money will last their whole lives. Lauren is right when she said:

"There's no chance Tori would have dated Zach if he wasn't from Little People Big World."

Maria said...

Eric, considering the picture posted of Jacob looking to be on drugs, he's probably to stoned to use twitter.

Rap541 said...

if Tori is controlling his friendships

And I would ask Anne to provide actual proof, if I were you, Rachel.

Right now Anne's proof is an unnamed source who doesn't want to make trouble but who did intentionally contact Anne just to make sure the shit *was* stirred.

Is there any proof?

And considering both Zach and Tory have said they wanted a smaller wedding, I don't find it unusual that the guest list wasn't huge. I also again point out that the LP friends are distant friends and would have to pay for a plane ticket, a hotel stay and a car rental. If they aren't already in driving distance (and we know they aren't) then it's a fairly expensive trip to make for a friend you don't see that often..

And I find it interesting that after years of hearing how Jeremy is a great friend and supporter of LPs, that not one of you questioned why there were no LP guests aside from his family at his wedding. As I recall, it was argued extensively that Jeremy was as a big part of the LP community as Zach. Why were his LP friends excluded? You know, the ones he saw every year at the LP cons and DDD sporting events?

MS said...

Rap, I know. They never answer that question, but the silence is telling. Jeremy has always been a complete fraud. At one point, I wasn't sure about Audrey. But it's pretty clear what she's turned into and it's far from the Christian saint her admirers portray her to be.

Ecossais said...

I think Anne is seriously deluded.

She thinks she has a "column" and an "audience" now. Anne you have nothing other than what limited access Spirits generously grants to you to do little more than bash Jacob and worship Audrey and Jeremy. Maybe you should look for syndication?

What you have Anne is half a dozen equally demented bible thumpers who cannot write a sentence without "jesus" or "god" in it.

Ecossais said...

@Rachel

You are making a fool of yourself.

"I think it is a bad sign for Zack IF...."
In simple words "you KNOW NOTHING" yet proceed to enlarge upon what you don't know.

What don't you understand about the fact that the guest list for a wedding is a matter for the couple and their parents especially since normally the parents - not TLC - are footing the bill?
It is quite simply NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

Anonymous said...

@MS

The ONLY thing I can vaguely credit Audrey with as doing good was the blanket thing. I think there was something about the maker (NOT Audrey) giving away blankets based on what Audrey SOLD.

For all the other stuff she peddles I assume she gets either a fee for promoting it on her website or a commission based on sales. Nothing charitable here - all for Audrey and the maker.

Mydick Hurts said...

Robert Keeshan never spoke truer words when he said " we have seen very clearly that Matt has 3 stupid, spoiled boys. None of them excelled at school. All of them are probably unemployable in the real world. None of them are interested in learning how to load a dishwasher at McDonalds or other real world jobs."
1 day the freak channel will tire of the Roloffs . . . a divorce pending . . . show cancelled .. farm sold .. woe onto the 3 stupid Roloff boys making it in the real world.

Rap541 said...

MS - Never let be said that I am not fair.

I think Jeremy thinks he's an awesome Christian. So does Audrey. I think they have a very childish, shallow, and ego-centric view of their faith, and I think they are very rarely challenged on any of their beliefs. I think its very easy for them to be Christian because nothing is expected of them and all they have to do is pay lip service to their faith.

I mean, I can't blame them for taking the easy path - but it is fairly clear that they aren't exactly adverse to shutting up about God if it gets them some dollars.

Rap541 said...

MS - It's just like we're never going to get a rational answer on what Tory gains by engaging in a years long relationship and marrying a man she theoretically doesn't love and is just using when its very clear Zach isn't terribly interested in pursuing any sort of Hollywood career and clearly isn't Matt's choice to inherit the farm.

If she doesn't love Zach, then what is she gaining by marrying him?

*and FYI "access to the Roloffs" really isn't enough and if you genuinely believe Tory dated Zach for years and married him simply to hang out with the Roloffs, then you must consider the Roloffs as a whole, a group of idiots for totally missing this.

Bonnie said...

It's not wrong to question Tori's motivation. It seems politcally correct to rule out that Zach's tv show fame had a huge factor on why she wanted to date him. Would Tori had given Zach a chance if he was a regular person.

Rap541 said...

Bonnie - What does Tory gain by having a relationship with Zach for four years and committing to Zach in a legal marriage... if she's not actually in love with him?

Zach isn't currently pursuing a Hollywood career, and he won't be inheriting the farm, so it's not like Tory is getting a financial prize. Why would Tory marry Zach if she didn't love him?

Sydney said...

What does Jacob do all day? How can anyone defend him? He's such a whining hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

Who exactly is defending Jacob?

Bonnie said...

Well, she's on a tv show now and she's on the cover of People Magazine.

She wouldn't have been without marrying Zach.

Sydney said...

Are you reading the same blog I am? Jacob gets defended all the time. He's a jerk who deserves all the criticism he gets.

Rap541 said...

Bonnie - and Audrey is on a tv show and featured in People Magazine. And is actively encouraging her fans to clamor for her to be on DWTS. Do you question her motivations?

I respectfully point out that Audrey married the average height brother who the father clearly intends to pass the property to. Why are Tory's motivations questioned and not Audrey's?

*and please don't say because Audrey loves Jesus because Tory has clearly established herself as of the Christian faith.

Anonymous said...

Sydney - I am asking for examples of Jacob being defended, yes.

running dog said...

Sydney asks "What does Jacob do all day? How can anyone defend him? He's such a whining hypocrite."..
.

.. Well Sydney, thats a good question that i believe has been asked before. . . Many speculate that Jacob is an avid comic book reader. Among his favorites are old "Superboy" comics with ma & pa kent. He likes comics about life on the farm, without the work of course. Saturday mornings are of course for cartoons. Word is Jacob does't like to dance . . so "dancing with the stars is out for him" .. . His girlfriend doesn't like to cook so that means fast foods all week long. Among Jacobs hobbies are driving his truck and petting his dog.

Abby said...

Did anybody see the video Isabel posted on instagram? I'm worried Jacob is going to unintentionally injure or kill their dogs. He is gunning the mule right behind the dogs who are running in front of them. Isabel is telling him to slow down but he doesn't. If something happens causing the dogs to slow down, they are going to hit them with the mule. It's very reckless.

Chad said...

You all have rose colored glasses on when it comes to Jeremy and Audrey. The dancing video is filmed so far away that you can't tell how well the dancing is. Jeremy and Audrey want to be kept in the spotlight so they can live without getting real jobs. The only reason Audrey has a blog is to make money. She wants you to use her link to shop at Nordstrom and buy face cream because she gets money from every click and when every code is used. You can make good money and get free stuff by blogging.
I find Audrey as being so fake. She is not what she portrays on the outside.

You are wrong about Tori and Zach's friends. All of Zach's friends are the same friends that Jeremy has. Remember Jeremy and Zach are twins. How do you know Zach has little people as real friends? The only little people Zach talked about or seen with on the show are his teammates and at the conventions. Not once have I seen a little person as a friend on the show at the farm or handing out with Zach at home.
It will be interesting to see how Zach and Tori are in the future about sharing their life on camera because they both said they don't like all the attention but they have no problem having their wedding on TV.
Also, Tori and Zach have the right to move the church because they want to have wedding that is theirs and not look like Jeremy and Audrey wedding.
How do you know that Jacob signed a contract to continue filming? We don't know because this season he has not done an on camera interview and when he did talk about something they didn't show him talking about it on camera it was just his voice. He was not at the food convention.
They need to come out and say Jacob no longer wants to film the TV Show and let Jacob leave. But that would never happen because then Matt and Amy will look bad about making the kids be on TV all these years.

Vicky said...

Abby, good point. I haven't seen that video but I'm concerned about the way the put the dogs in the back of the car. My Aunt lives on a farm they once were taking their dog to the vet and had him in the back of the truck. He tried to jump out of the back of the truck and ended up dying. It's dangerous to transport dogs in trucks.

PJ said...

It took me a long time but I finally figured out the Tori hate. The loons all feel she has prostituted herself for a tiny amount of fame because it's what you all would do in the same circumstances. Reality TV, People and Us are not real fame. They're tiny flashes of next to nothing.
And the nonsense that Tori won't allow Zach to have his LP friends at the wedding. Prove it, heck prove any of the insane allegations you loons make, and not by quoting each other or your fearless leader.

DWTS is based on one celebrity training with one ballroom dance professional and performing together. Please explain how a couple is supposed to fit in?
Why is someone as "godly" as Ste Auj dreaming of fame instead of doing good somewhere? she's never going to be allowed to minister on DWTS. She'll not be spreading Gods word. She'll be showing off and aggrandizing herself.Period. Kinda throws the sin of pride into the mix doesn't it?

Abby said...

I didn't say he's abusing the dogs. They clearly care about them. I'm concerned about him being reckless and unintentionally caising a horrible accident.

Abby said...

Chad, get real. Of course Jacob signed a contract andis getting paid. He's in the opening credits. He's speaking on camera. He's doing obviously staged scenes like Zachs floor and the upcoming mud races.

Paula said...

Let Jacob leave? He's no longer 9. He's on the show because he's choosing to be. He is a hypocrite that villifies the show but uses it for money.

Carrie said...

Abby, I agree. It shows how irresponsible Jacob is that he doesn't consider any of the danger to the dogs. First of all, it is kind of mean to race behind the dog with a loud machine. Jacob's dog Luna was having trouble keeping up. What if the dog stumbles? What if something spooked the dogs and it suddenly came to a halt? The mule is not going to be able to stop in time.

At least Isabel had the sense to say "slow down" but the fact that he she captioned it with "ignore my annoying screams to slow down" shows that Jacob is very controlling and she's not allowed to stand up to him.

Abby said...

Abby, exactly Carrie.

Yes Rap, I comment on what I see. If he was abusing the dogs, yes I would report him. What I see is reckless behavior. I see a potential tragedy in the works. If it happens, I hope Jacob is the only one injured and not the dogs or his passenger or passengers.

Sydney said...

Rap541, do you think it is safe to race a mule/ATV at a high speed through a country road/field with the dogs running directly in front of the vehicle? Would you do that with your own dogs?

Sydney said...

Rap541, from what I've seen of your posts anytime Jacob is criticized you defend him by attacking other Roloffs instead of staying on the criticism made against Jacob.

And yeah, a lot of people defend Jacob's behavior.

God, Spiritswander once PRAISED Jacob for being "honest" when really all he was doing was insulting people and being a rude complaining brat.

Ecossais said...

You people, you know who you are, are not satisfied with just criticizing Jacob's(major in your minds) faults but also have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find something additional to chastise him for like letting the dogs run in front of and ATV.

Lauren said...

"And where are all the friends and family of Zach allowing this to go on? Matt and Amy and Jeremy and Auj and Molly and even Jacob all seem to like Tory? Are they all fools?"

Rap541, other people have answered you when you've said this but I'll do it again.

I don't believe Tori would have dated Zach if he wasn't on LPBW. Why don't the rest of the Roloffs speak out against her?

There's some obvious answers.

Number one it is my opinion. Maybe they don't see. Maybe they think she is genuine. Maybe they can't always see when people might be using them for fame. It's my opinion, not theirs.

Maybe they like her. Maybe they don't. People rarely tell or make an issue of not liking someone their family member is dating because it can get ugly.

Third, even if they didn't like her, they definitely aren't going to say it on the show or on social media to fans.

Fourth, they won't even speak out against Jacob. That shows they don't speak publicly about anything negative within the family.

Rap let me ask you a question now. Honest to God. If Zach was a regular 24 year old dwarf working at an indoor soccer club who had never been on tv, do you think Tori (and it is TorI with an "i", I am annoyed at seeing you type it Tory!) would have dated and married him. Honest to God, speak the truth. You think that realistically would have happened?

Rap541 said...

Honestly?

Yes. I think it's possible. I think if love is meant to be, it happens. I think it would have been more unlikely that Tori (Sorry, I like the y) would have met, but frankly, I think the same could easily be said of Audrey and Jeremy - without the show they might not have met. The fact that you focus on Zach's dwarfism is what I find sad. I know at least two "not ever on tv" couples where one is a dwarf and yes... average height people do indeed marry dwarfs who aren't on tv.

To hit on your other points.

1. If its your opinion, then you concede your opinion is possibly wrong, correct?

2. If the Roloffs genuinely believe she's using Zach, Amy's always been upfront about how she's quick to tell Zach. It's actually in one of their books and in one of the early episodes.

3. They may not say it on social media but is there any hint at all that Amy doesn't like her? My personal sense is that Matt isn't as enthralled, but frankly I don't think he's all that taken with Auj either.

4. They don't speak out about anything publically because of money. You do concede that means they'd rather have money than Zach be happy? If you're right and Tori is a gold digging whore?

WHat exactly is Tori gaining here again?

Jamie said...

Jacob's dog was afraid of swimming in a creek, so Jacob grabbed her and threw her off a steep rock drop. She was quite young too. This made me angry. So yes, he's prone to doing stupid and dangerous things. He was like this when he was young too.

As for portraying Jacob as "honest" or having "guts", no. Jacob didn't boldly proclaim his opinions on his own accord, he did so in an emotional fit of anger and annoyance after people pressed him many many times and he only did so because he was angry. So portraying him as boldly declaring his opinions in gutsy fashion is simply dishonest.

Shelby said...

Jamie, you're great. You sound like you have the downlow on Jacob. I think you have Jacob figured out exactly right. I remember him posting the picture of him throwing Luna into the water too.

I also think you're right on about Jacob answering stuff out of anger or annoyance, not because he was trying to be honest.

Timothy said...

Jamie, whether Jacob's mindset was one of anger or that he was annoyed, he still answered about important topics.

Can't you agree that he was honest about the things he answered? Like his feelings for the show or gay marriage? It sure seemed like an honest answer to me. because it wasn't worded very well. That's more than any other Roloff can muster about anything real.

Shelby said...

Timothy, he lied about a lot of things on Ask too and he would delete a lot.

I don't think he's honest. I think he says what he thinks he should say to be cool by the people he thinks are cool. I remembered when he first answered about gays. He called it a sin. Then people on Ask called him out on it. He denied he said that. Then they proved he was lying. Then Jacob tried to say he considers it a sin according to the Bible and that's what he meant by "that's when it's a sin to me". What??? He's not honest. Even on the gay stuff. Remember he tries to sound like this liberal freedom fighter but he's the one who said he wanted nothing to do with a gay kid at his high school because he was so freaked out that the guy said Jacob was good looking and then the kid said Jacob wouldn't speak to him the entire year. But going by Jacob's twitter you would think he's this big pro-gay gay friendly guy who is welcoming to gay people. Except he will refuse to speak to them and not want to be anywhere near them. He's a liar and insincere. He sealed the deal on being insincere on his lie about signing another contract.

Hopefully the next stupid thing he does only hurts himself.

Shelby said...

Jamie, before Jacob deletes it, here is Jacob throwing Luna into the water off a rock.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/55ffok.jpg



Shelby said...

His caption was "Helping Luna practice swimming today lol"

Brandon said...

But Kitten With Claws....remember, Jeremy will retweet a quote from a Pastor saying "Man is confused, acquiring material possessions aren't important. Serving God is important" or something like that. Meanwhile Jeremy always has a fleet of flashy vehicles.

Janet said...

Isabel pretends to love dogs but dates a guy who will throw a puppy off a rock into water and she doesn't even object?

Abby said...

Rap, if I'm right, Tori would be gaining fame and attention. Why is she on tv? Zach. Why is she in People mag on the cover? Zach. Why does she have thousands of instagram followers? Zach. Some people live for fame.

Jamie said...

The equivalent would be throwing Jacob off a 3 or 4 story building into what looks like a fairly shallow pool of water. I don't think he was trying to be malicious, just sort of dumb.

Timothy,

Yes, honest in a very narrow sense of the word. But the impression or connotation that words like "honest" or "guts" give is speaking freely on your own accord, not being pushed until you implode in anger and annoyance. But yes, he states his opinions more than other Roloffs.

Rap541 said...

Abby - after five years and a marriage - that's not all that much fame. At the end of the day, the only reason LPBW is still on the air is because the Duggars imploded.

Everything you have cited applies equally to Audrey - do you consider Audrey to be in it to gain fame and attention? There is no difference between the wives except that Tori worked at the farm and Audrey is actively using her fame to get sponsors for her blog and to get on DTWS. Why isn't Audrey living for fame? How is Tori, with her dreams of hard wood floors, the gold digging famewhore?

Tori married the twin who won't get the farm and who isn't interested in the cameras.

Why is Audrey on tv, Abby? Tell me why. Say it out loud. Why is Audrey Botti on tv at all?

Please do answer the question.

Doreen said...

Is Jeremy still doing photography in Bend?

pj said...

Jeremy is in L.A. according to Matt's Facebook.

Podge/Rodge groupie said...

You're right, Abby. Some people live for fame. Like Audrey.

Ashley said...

PJ, for filming obviously. That's why theywould be waiting for Amy and why Jacob was going to california.

Debbie said...

Why do Christians respect Audrey? Look at what she did for Jacob's ex girlfriend. She brought a troubled girl to Jesus. Audrey befriended her. Stephanie wrote about how Audrey inspired her and taught her that Jesus loves her. After Jacob made her feel worthless and mistreated her, Audrey was there for her. Audrey could have cut Stephanie out after Jacob was done with her, but Audrey did the right thing as Jesus would have. She showed Stephanie God's love.

MS said...

...continuing with the Zach/Tori discussion. So for those who are suggesting that Tori married Zach for the fame, what happens when LPBW is finally cancelled and the Roloffs fade from people's minds? As Rap has mentioned, Zach shows no inclination of going Hollywood. Tori is in her 20's. Are you suggesting she married someone she doesn't love and plans to spend perhaps the next 50 years with for maybe 2-3 years of fame and attention? I will also add it's not like this was some whirlwind marriage but rather years in the planning -- plenty of time to think it through rather than act on some impulsive, poorly-conceived, life-altering decision. Or are you suggesting she'll split when her moment in the spotlight fades? Keep in mind, she's on record as saying she wants to start a family soon. That would certainly complicate matters if she plans to leave. Or are kids part of her "conniving" plot to prolong the show?

Have you really thought this through? Basically, Tori would have to be a bit psycho to act as you're suggesting, yet she strikes me as a very down-to-earth young woman.

Lauren said...

MS, I'm sure Tori knows the chances are high to get more seasons of lpbw if she gets pregnant and have kids. I don't think tori believes she will be out of the lpbw spotlight anytime soon.

PJ said...

Debbie,
Name something else. That was one act several years ago. What has she done kately?

MS said...

Ok Lauren, so you're suggesting kids are part of her master plot to stay in the limelight? And what about the next 50 years or so once the show does end? You believe she's sacrificing most of her adult life for this relatively short span of fame?


Rap541 said...

Lauren then stand up proud and say it.

Lauren, do you believe Tori plans to have children merely for fame? Yes or No.

You're ONLY being asked for your opinion.

PJ said...

Dear God.
Lauren do you honestly believe that anyone would get married and have possibly handicapped children for an iffy at best few years LPBW? If you do I have a bridge in New York you are gonna live.

J45 said...

". Many speculate that Jacob is an avid comic book reader. Among his favorites are old "Superboy" comics with ma & pa kent. He likes comics about life on the farm, without the work of course. Saturday mornings are of course for cartoons. Word is Jacob does't like to dance . . so "dancing with the stars is out for him" - Running Dog, this is your speculation, no one else's.

Honestly, I doubt Jacob reads comic books now (or if he ever did). He seems more interested in sci-fi books, judging by his Twitter.

Mydick Hurts said...

PJ said...

Dear God.
Lauren do you honestly believe that anyone would get married and have possibly handicapped children for an iffy at best few years LPBW? If you do I have a bridge in New York you are gonna live.

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ummm PJ. . . every day brainless gals get pregnant. . . have no "husbands" .. . no jobs. . . no brains. . . DON'T FORGET 15 MINUTES OF FAME ! .. . like Tori would have anything to do with little Zack if he wasn't on tv. .. still, Zack has a steady job. . . the "little people show" will go on forever i guess .. .i can see it now .. in the future there will be a "SON OF ZACK" show. . . ho boy . .. .

Rap541 said...

PJ - and don't forget, while apparently its childishly clear that Tori married Zach for an ulterior motive per Lauren, Abby and the CHristian crowd, Matt, Amy, Jermey, Auj etc are NOT to be judged for allowing it or for their public embrace of the beast who will bear spite children merely to extend her fame. Nope, when Jeremy can't muster up anything other than "I really like Tori" - he's doing the only thing he can do as a Christian. He can't possibly tell his brother that Tori is using him because well, he doesn't want to make a scene and thats more important than letting your brother marry someone who is blatently using him.

Or, you know, Tori actually loves Zach... but apparently Zach is too disgusting a dwarf for that to be possible to some of these people. Lauren? Do you think Zach is too disgusting to love?

J45 said...

Why is Audrey on tv? Jeremy. Why is Audrey in People mag on the cover? Jeremy. Why does Audrey have thousands of instagram followers? Jeremy. Some people live for fame.

Judy said...

Only Tori knows Tori's true motivations. Let's hope they are pure. Time will tell.

MS, many young girls are confused and only think about the "now" and not the short-term. If you don't believe that, you are naive. Look at the number of high school girls that intentionally get pregnant with a particular "cool boy" at high school because they believe a baby is a way to secure a relationship. They aren't mature enough to think about the long term.

Ashley said...

J45, "Running Dog" is a troll. I've seen "comic book" book comments before but then they mostly get removed later it seems. I'm surprised Spirits let that one stand.

But on the subject of what Jacob reads, he posted books he recommends and has always said his favorite was "Ender's game" by Orson Scott Card.

I was kind of surprised at Jacob's support given that OSC is a big time religious type who is a member of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" and is well known for his outspoken opposition to gay rights and gay marriage. That kind of thing, coupled with Jacob's reaction to the gay kid at his high school, makes me skeptical of Jacob trying to present himself as a supporter of gay rights.

Megan said...

Tori and Zach are going to be on "Access Hollywood" later today with Matt and Amy. Tori seems to really be enjoying her fame.

Carly said...

You can tell how arrogant and close minded Jacob is from his twitter. As soon as someone disagrees with him he responds with "I'm blocking you now"...like it's some sort of hurtful threat. In some cases I think the person responding is responding to the subject (a current event like the Ferguson stuff) and probably doesn't even know who he is, but Jacob always comes back with "I'm blocking you!"

Greg said...

Carly, Jacob said: "trusting Fox News is the first stupid thing you've done today" in response to someone who retweeted Fox News report about the riots.

I'd like to see Jacob have the guts to start attacking his own family members for believing and liking the same things that he attacks "randoms" on twitter for liking. And of course you know if Fox News invited the cast of LPBW to be on one of their shows, Jacob would be there in a heartbeat if he was getting paid or a trip out of it.

Rap541 said...

Ashley - let me blow your mind.

I really love Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. That is despite the fact that I know Card is very opposed to gay rights. The book, if you read it, make no discussion of gay rights and very little discussion of religion. (the later books do get more religious but Ender's Game is a stand alone book)

Judy - Only Audrey knows Audrey's true motivation. Only time will tell if it was to get on DWTS or to marry Jer. Right now, since Audrey has quit her job/been fired, it sure looks like Audrey is very motivated to get herself some of that TV fame.

That's as fair of a remark as the one you made.

j45 - excellent point - made all the more interesting that Audrey really wants to strut her wares on DWTS... something that would never have been a possibility for her unless she landed the husband.

Rap541 said...

Fox News only invites reality whores on their shows if someone raped their sisters while professing to be a super duper Christian, Greg.

Megan - I am sure Tori and Zach will enjoy it as much as Jeremy and Audrey enjoyed their time in People and US Magazine as the Roloff newlyweds. I sure didn't see Jeremy or Audrey say no... why are Zach and Tori wrong to do as Jer and Auj?

Megan? I'd really like an answer, especially since "Do as Jeremy and Auj do as they are blessed of Christ" is the sacrement here - Tori and Zach are doing as Jeremy and Auj... why in Christ's name is it wrong for them to follow Jer and Auj's shining to Christ example?

Mydick Hurts said...

wow MS R U ever naive . . .MS says. . ."the Zach/Tori discussion. So for those who are suggesting that Tori married Zach for the fame". . .& "Are you suggesting she married someone she doesn't love and plans to spend perhaps the next 50 years" . . .

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Good god MS, nothing personal but u think like an 11 yr old. . .IMO of course she will divorce little Zach when the fame starts to fade. . . (think her share of the farm etc) .. of course she wants little Zachs babies .. . maybe that will keep the "fame & the show going" (think child support payments when their divorced). . . tsk tsk. . how naive to think she'd even look at little Zach if he wasn't on tv. . .

MS said...

Judy, Tori is not some impulsive teenager. She also doesn't strike me as an immature adult. She seems very level-headed and this marriage was years in the making. At what age would you give her credit for being able to make long-term decisions as an adult? If this was all some conniving plot for fame, don't you think she'd slip up at some point? Not only is she around Roloffs all the time, but what about her own family? She has them fooled too? Or are they in on it as well?

All this effort into seeking ulterior motives for Tori yet no one ever questioned Audrey's motives. Why is that? Because Tori married a dwarf? Because Audrey is a "saint" on some ridiculous pedestal that can do no wrong? If Zach was average height, would you still be questioning Tori's motives?

J45 said...

Ashley, thanks. I agree Jacob's public stance on gay rights isn't consistent.

However, I don't think Jacob's favourite book being Ender's Game is necessarily an indication of his gay rights or religious views.

Personally, I'd count Ender's Game as one of my favourites too - granted, I read it before I found out about OSC's homophobic agenda and religious affiliations.

Yet despite OSC's political views conflicting greatly with my own, I thoroughly enjoy Ender's Game and his other works. IMHO Ender's Game is a thought-provoking story with positive messages.

It doesn't contain homophobia. There is no mention of Mormonism. What is mentioned of Catholicism is very limited and has little bearing on the overall plot.

Interestingly, Ender's Game (at its core) is about how "well-intentioned" adults use and manipulate a little boy for their own ostensible benefit, with little consideration for the psychological effects. -- Exactly what Jacob seems to resent from his parents. It's no surprise to me it's his favourite.

Ashley said...

J45 and Rap, fair enough. I know some people can separate someone's social issues or political or religious views, but for me, when something is serious or about an issue that you say is so important to you, it becomes a little awkward to throw your support behind someone who works against something so important to you.

For example, if you're a huge dog lover (Jacob's girlfriend Isabel?) I couldn't see myself buying a Michael Vick football jersey because I like him as a football player and go around telling people Michael Vick is awesome, buy his jersey.

That's how I kind of see Orson Scott Card to the gay rights movement. I'm not saying never like something from someone who is a Republican if you're a democrat or vice versa or if someone supports a political figure you don't.

But Orson Scott Card is kind of extreme. He joined the Board of Directors for the National Organization for Marriage group which basically exists to campaign against gay marriage. That's a really prominent role to take on. That sounds like something Anne is probably apart of, lol.

To go on twitter and say you're for gay rights while in your other hand you're saying "Buy this book from the guy who fights against gay marriage" is kind of the same as saying you're for gay rights and equality but you won't talk to the gay kid at school because it makes you uncomfortable.

Anonymous said...

Have any of you actually read the people article? Tori is not quoted once!! Audrey is only looking for fame and the quick way to make a buck. What exactly are they doing in Bend?

Rap541 said...

Ashley - I understand your point but you're also making my point and J45's point when you concede that some people can separate their views from a work of literature or art.

Denise said...

Tori is also instagraming pictures of her with Mario Lopez. I think Tori likes the attention and saw Zach and the show as the way to feel special. Tori isn't ugly but she isn't a "Wow, she's gorgeous!" type of girl. By marrying Zach, she becomes immediately upped her stock. She sure does seem to be enjoying her time in the spotlight. From her Instagram photo, I thought maybe she married Mario.

J45 said...

Ashley, I get what you mean. And I totally understand why you feel that way. If I'd heard about Card's political views before reading Ender's Game, I may never have read it. Or, I might have taken it out of the library, so as not to give him my money.

Your comparison to Michael Vick/buy his jersey is interesting. I see where you're coming from. I really respect your opinion. I want to take your position on the issue - I tried to take your position, but I just couldn't.

Honestly: I don't think people should *buy* Ender's Game from a bookstore. (Unfortunately, I took that route in ignorance). Take it out of the library, buy it from a yard sale or a used bookstore, borrow it from a friend. There are other ways to acquire and read books without giving authors a cent. Personally, I think Ender's Game has a lot of valuable messages in it, and I don't think they should be passed up because the author's bigoted. Thomas Jefferson penned the Declaration of Independence, yet owned a slave, for example.

PJ said...

Denise
Everything you've said about Tori applies to Ste Auj too. AND Ste Auj is the one trying to expand her pseudo-fame. Just because you and the loons are too closed minded to consider dating a LP doesn't mean everyone feels that way.

Michelle said...

Let's admit it. It is easy to imagine Audrey dating Jeremy if he was never on LPBW. But it's hard to imagine Tori dating Zach if he wasn't on LPBW. It even goes beyond the dwarf factor although that is some of it. He doesn't have the personality that attracts girls.

Rap541 said...

Michelle, nonsense.

There are things I don't like about Zach's personality, so we'd never date, but I can totally see where a girl might find him attractive in personality. He doesn't treat his dates like they are lucky to be with him, he acts like he considers himself lucky to be with them. He seems to be the kind of guy who listens to what his girl wants. WHile in many ways, I find his manners lacking, he has some old school gentlemanly behaviors towards girls that tell me he treats the women in his life well.

Dwarfs marry average height people all the time, are they all suspect?

And then we're back to what is in it for Tory if she isn't really in love with Zach and why does no one in the family act on her obvious lack of love?

Seriously, just because he's not what you would want in a husband, its pretty pathetic that you're insisting Zach can't possibly have attracted any average height girls. I've seen much odder pairs.

j45 - I feel your pain. I really like Robert Heinlein but now that I am an adult, some of his books have some really offensive moments.

Anonymous said...

Rap541 lists the reasons she could & could not "date" Zack. How many women would be honest enough to say Zach is ugly. They could never imagine having sex with him. This is the simple truth. It's why so many see the obvious that Tori is a fame whore. Enough said.

Jerome said...

Is it really that hard to believe that Tori is marrying Zach out of love and attraction rather than the gold digger, fame whore angle?

In my eyes he isn't even that big of a celebrity. He certainly isn't a Peter Dinklage or Marty Klebba. Once the show fades, Zach Roloff will just be a distant memory and she has to realize that.

When I was a teenager my friends and I would walk through the mall and notice all the guys that just didn't seem like they would be a good match for the girl they were with. Whether it was their looks, their stature, etc...and we would always say things like "she must be with him for his money" or "he must have a huge package". Now that I am older I realize that in some cases that might be the case but in most situations there are other factors at work. Maybe the guy has a great personality. Maybe he is funny as shit. Maybe he treats her like a queen.

I don't understand why people just can't be happy for someone like Zach instead of picking their marriage apart and putting some messed up spin on it that she is only out for fame and money.

Anonymous said...

Anon at 3:38 pm - thanks for openly endorsing the idea that people who aren't cookie cutter pretty are ugly and incapable of being loved. I'm sure that is what the Roloffs wanted you to take away from the show, that people who look different are ugly and can't have relationships with normal people.

mittsigirl said...

Wow, I just found this place today. Wow, Anne is a Christian?! I would never have guessed that, from the amount of judging she does. Not like the Christians I come from. I am still too shocked from what I have read here today, to be able to say what I want to say, will have to process this awhile first.
But the thing about DWTS- they hardly wear any clothing! And what they do wear, is not much at all. Even if you think that 'Auj' can wear something that will cover her more than the other 'non-christian' females, a person still watches the entire show, and will still see the near nakedness of the others. How can a christian think this is even a little bit right? I am beginning to think that the ones on here that are doing the judging of the Roloff family,
might not be the Christians that they think they are at all. Wow.

Anonymous said...

Anne, uh, for the love is what is good, maybe Amy finally got sick of Matt's complete narcissus who gave her no respect, completely disregarded her feelings, and discarded her input..after years of that type of abuse she finally woke up, and sadly, the apple of the boys doesn't fall too far from the tree..Jeremy saying his mother has no business sense, she went to college and majored in business
.perhaps had he listened to her more and not discarded her input things may have been much better..and his sons are just like him..good for Amy, finally standing up..and Audrey is a gild digger all about the exposure.

Anonymous said...

Why are people doubting Tori's love for Zach? Tori loves Zach and vise versa. It has nothing to do with LPBW. I know this because I'm very good friends with the Roloff family. I met Tori when Zach first started dating her and really liked her from the start. Please don't believe everything you see on tv. If you knew this family personally I don't think you would be saying anything bad about them. They are a very nice family, and when you enter their home it's very warm and inviting, they make sure you feel right at home, and take very good care of their guests. You ALL are living on tv land.... lol The only Roloff that has issues right now is Jacob, and lately he's been doing quite well. Please stop with all the rumors that Tori is only with Zach for his fame, because quite honestly he's just like you and me. He just happens to be a little person.

Ashley said...

Anon, there's a lot to suggest the Roloffs are snobs to most people.

Your comments about believing "TV land" would be more appropriate on Matt's Facebook or TLC's LPBW Facebook page. Usually the people who believe the TV Roloffs are the real Roloffs are the ones who think the best of them, that they are squeaky clean, super nice and selfless.

Most people on this blog although people have vast differing opinions, at least know more real facts about the Roloffs and see what they actually do, not just from the fake tv show.

Anonymous said...

Looks like the owner of this Roloff blog is a bible thumping Bitch and Roloff hater.