Keeping up with the Roloff family

Rosie O'donnell's Little People Phobia

2012-02-12T20:26:00.013-07:00

We thought we would pass this along and make a separate item for this because it's starting to generate discussion. Everyone is starting to weigh in on it.

It centers around Rosie O'Donnell's interview with fellow talk show host -- Chelsea Handler. During the interview they discuss Rosie's fear of Little People.

Several LP are offering to appear on Rosie's show and help her overcome her fear.

Matt Roloff posted "Our work here on Earth.....is never done. lol" It was followed by hundreds of angry comments from Matt's fans -- some of which called Rosie names like "fat lesbian!".

Matt then posted again about Rosie on his Facebook Fan Page:

Matt Roloff: "All day today.. I just wanted to give Rosie a big hug! ...well i guess it would be a little hug coming from me... I honestly and sincerely want her to feel better about little people. Let's not be be angry... But let's graciously endeavor to help her overcome her fears. I know I can use loving help to overcome my fears and phobias."

Here is a sampling of some of the comments on Matt's Fan Page about Rosie. A couple of people were upset at Matt for allowing the insults towards Rosie. A few weeks ago after Matt endorsed a Republican politician and some had insulted him, Matt said he would not tolerate insults, insults about the politician that Matt was campaigning for were deleted and the person make them were banned . These are some of the comments on Matt's page from his fans about Rosie:

Cindy: she's just plain WORTHLESS!!!....push her off a cliff!!

Michelle: Yeah, well Rosie scares me! What a stupid thing for her to say.

Matt S: Ignore both those pigs!

John: Do you have a fear of chubby half-talented talkshow hosts?

Hollyanne: dumb. - she should be focusing on her obesity.

Kay: Rosie is a nasty, fat pig!

Melanie: What an idiot.

Elaine: Don't really know what to say about this but Rosie is an ___hole, fill in the blanks! I think Chelsey actually came off better then she normally does. Yes there is alot of work to do but I wouldnt worry about Rosie, she's not worth the effort!

Jackie: Rosie O'Donnell is a freak!

Ray: Rosie is a cow

Marie: Quite honestly Matt. I can't believe you are allowing the hate on here. It's beyond me how anyone would think the right thing to do here is say such nasty things, and I can't believe Matt that you are a party to it. Seems you are just as bad as anything that was said on that tape!

Amy Roloff has also been posting about it:

Amy Roloff: "matt and i have different thoughts on this, but WE DO believe on one thing 'We Still Have More Work To Do". Re: Rosie ODonnell Chelsea interview on Rosie's show, You Tube"

Jen Montzingo wrote an open letter to Rosie O'Donnell and Chelsea Handler on her blog that the LPA President, Gary Arnold, is sharing around:

http://hopesprouts.wordpress.com/2012/02/10/dearest-darlingest-ro-chels/

Dearest darlingest Rosie and Chelsea,

First of all, I genuinely enjoy both of your work. From what I know, you are raw, real and funny as hell! I think we would have great talks over dinner. I think you’re both worldly and whip-smart. I can imagine learning a ton from the both of you. But I don’t genuinely know you or the feelings you have behind your probably-not-the-smartest comments you made on Rosie’s show. I’m hoping the close-mindedness of your comments will actually spur change in a positive way.

I’m not so hurt by what you said, partly because I’m used to it. I’ve experienced it first hand. It’s more painful coming from people I actually know and opportunities actually lost because of ignorance. A lot of people think the same thing, only most people don’t voice it or don’t have a public platform from which to speak. I really want to change your mind, but I don’t think this can be done through screaming. I think the only way to change your mind is for you to get to know me, or someone in my community, someone who is educated, passionate and fully alive.

I’ve lived in Hollywood for 3 years now. I’ve seen a lot. I am a teacher and an actress. A lot of people out there have the exact same prejudices. Nothing really surprises me in humanity in general. Let’s hope that by you voicing your thoughts so publicly, that we can use your platform to make a difference, to really have a discussion that brings light and changes minds. Vilifying either of you won’t really do that.

Chelsea– us LP’s, well I can only speak for myself, we don’t need to be rescued by you. I get how you feel about Chuy. He seems to have had a pretty painful life. But you’re kind of perpetuating the problem. We just want to be equal in society, we don’t want to be fetishes. Not all of us work in the porn industry and need to be rescued. A lot of us are pretty darn normal.

“I want to tackle them.”
“Who else is going to give that guy of job? Someone has to rescue him. There’s not a lot of opportunities for that kind of people, they need our help.”
And Rosie–thanks for your honesty but get to know me so you won’t be afraid. We’re pretty freakin’ normal, well most of us, and yeah- don’t be scared. Here’s where people get angry. You’re a staunch advocate for equal rights in the LGBT community. If you’re going to stand for the marginalized, you need to stand for all the marginalized. If I campaign for No H8, I’d really like you to do the same. As they say, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

“No that would be child abuse, I would never do that.”
“I have so many feelings, I can’t just act normal.”
Little People are as varied as black people, fat people, gay people, etc. Please, educate yourselves so you aren’t ignorant. A lot of my LP acquaintances and friends want to vilify you both. I just think you need some education, you need some healing. We’re all a little bit broken. So let’s do dinner and meet somewhere in the middle.

C’mon ladies, let’s just talk.

XOXO,
Jen

P.S. I’ve read all of your books, ladies!
P.P.S. Ro, I like your show’s new 1-on-1 format MUCH better!
P.P.P.S. After Lately is amazeballs!

A fan posted Jen Montzingo's letter to Rosie and Chelsea, on Amy's Facebook Fan Page:

Megan Tolliver: Amy, I thought I would share the link that was posted on Gary Arnold's FB page. I was angry about the Rosie/Chelsea thing, then I read this. I feel much better now...after ranting on Rosie's FB and twitter page, and sending 2 emails through her site ;) http://hopesprouts.wordpress.com/2012/02/10/dearest-darlingest-ro-chels/ "

Amy Roloff: "I'm glad there are a number of other LP's referencing their own thought on this subject in a positive way. It would have been more confirming to also mention their statement the number of shows LP's have done to positively change attitudes and perceptions of LP's. Yes, I include LPBW in this. Like I had mentioned before, there is more positive work to be done."

Others have made You Tube videos directed at Rosie.

For the record, Matt and Amy Roloff appeared on Chelsea Handler's talk show in April of 2010. Chelsea introduced them as "Little nuggets". She asked them if they minded her calling them nuggets? Amy said she will be a little nugget. Later in the interview Matt said they met at a "Little Nugget" convention.

http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2010/04/matt-and-amy-roloff-on-chelsea-lately.html

Rosie O'Donnell responded to several different people on twitter:

Rosie O'Donnell @Rosie
@danell_allen - he is beautiful - and not scary - my "fear" is about how awkward i get - about my reaction - hard 2 explain in a tweet

Rosie O'Donnell @Rosie
@OneloveSuzyQz - I am truly sorry it hurt u - what I was trying to say - was my shame at how badly I feel about my awkwardness -

Rosie O'Donnell @Rosie
@jneclay @Lizzard89 - i see y they r hurt - listen to what i am saying - it was about feeling shitty that i feel this way

Rosie O'Donnell @Rosie
@theteneyckes - yes - u r angry that I admitted a shameful feeling I am not proud of ...

Rosie O'Donnell @Rosie
@bobbischedel - I have apologized-scroll down -

Rosie O'Donnell @Rosie Close
@bobbischedel - I apologize to all LP - spread it around

Kristie Morton @KristieMorton2
@Rosie this is not heartfelt you need to make a better effort at this.

Rosie O'Donnell @Rosie
@KristieMorton2 - please ... That's it

Rosie O'Donnell @Rosie
@DreamLeaM - yes - I am done responding

Val Williamson @youareapiratexD
@Rosie I'm the daughter of two little people, what you said is wrong on so many levels. Educate yourself before you talk.

Rosie O'Donnell @Rosie
@youareapiratexD - val - i meant no ill will - u believe that or u do not - i am sorry u were hurt -

Rosie O'Donnell @Rosie
what to do - say - will some be offended - should we edit it out - yes- no -why do I feel uncomfortable - should I feel bad 4 feeling bad?

Fourth Little People, Big World / Roloff Family Special To Air Feb 19 - Preview

2012-02-11T18:28:00.004-07:00

The fourth and final Little People, Big World special will be televised on TLC Sunday February 19th at 8pm. For those who missed the 3 previous specials and were inquiring, they will be shown again on TLC at 5pm, 6pm and 7pm on the same night. TLC and the Roloffs agreed upon 4 "update" specials last spring/summer after the series was cancelled by TLC in late 2010.

TLC has released the preview for the 4th special on their website.

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/daily.html?date=20120219.050

Little People, Big World - Battle For The Farm - Fourth Special

Matt's dream of buying the neighboring property and tripling the size of Roloff Farm threatens to drive a wedge between he and Amy. When the State shuts down one of his businesses, Matt finds himself in over his head and on the edge of bankruptcy.

Followers of the Roloffs (mostly Matt) online postings will notice that the preview (which during the regular series was notorious for being misleading) suggests something totally different than what Matt has been posting online for the last year.

The preview states that the Roloffs were on the edge of bankruptcy. Matt spent most of 2011 posting on his Facebook Fan Page about how wildly lucrative the "dirt deal" (Intel paid the Roloffs to use Matt's land as a dumping ground). In October, Matt posted about another "successful" pumpkin season. Most recently, Matt posted about how the Roloffs had entered the Christmas tree business and how successful that was also.

The 4th special will air Feb 19th at 8pm on TLC.

If you wish to write a review, email spiritswander@gmail.com .

We have always extended invitations to anyone who is interested in writing a review/recap of LPBW. Rap541 graciously volunteers their own time in writing the reviews. A couple of people complain that Rap's review isn't to their liking, yet were unwilling to submit their own review. So this is another open invitation to write reviews.

Jeremy Roloff's Best Friend Jacob Mueller is 21

2012-02-09T11:32:00.004-07:00

We thought we should pass this along for the benefit of our readers and in the name of accuracy in the future because his age is often referenced; Feb 9th, 2012 is Jacob Mueller's 21st birthday.

"Mueller" is of course Jeremy's best friend who was regularly seen on Little People, Big World.

The most recent thing involving Mueller that drew some attention was a video last summer that featured Mueller, another Roloff friend named Christian and two girls from France drinking Jack Daniels in the Roloffs garage.

If you're unfamiliar with Mueller, you can read our piece on Mueller from last year:

http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2011/06/jeremy-roloffs-best-friend-jacob.html

Mueller has been involved in nearly every activity/event that has resulted in controversy with Jeremy (cruel fan insults, many of the slur comments, the drinking stories and the cat tossing, etc). Matt and Amy have stated that they consider Mueller to be a "great" person and are happy their kids are such good friends with him. Jacob Roloff is said to idolize Mueller. The amount of time Mueller and Jeremy spend together has generated discussion over the years as Mueller often accompanies Jeremy on Roloff family trips.

For the record, we are told by friends that Jeremy and Mueller feel that they are unfairly scrutinized simply because other people don't understand the depth of their friendship (aka. people are jealous that they don't have a best friend that they are as close to as Jeremy and Mueller are to each other).

Jeremy Roloff's Favorite Pastor - John Mark Comer - Releases Book "My Name Is Hope"

2012-02-03T11:44:00.014-07:00

As our frequent readers know, one of the recurring topics on our site as we report on public figures -- the Roloff family, is that of the Solid Rock Church and the lead pastor John Mark Comer. That is the church in Portland that all of the Roloffs have attended, but Jeremy is especially enthusiastic about the church and the lead pastor John Mark Comer. Jeremy's girlfriend, Audrey, also lists John Mark Comer as one of her idols and inspirations.

Solid Rock is a very conservative church (something that John Mark Comer has said in his sermons by referring to other churches in Portland that are "a lot more liberal than we are") that has been the cause of passionate debates on our site due to Solid Rock's and John Mark Comer's stance about a woman's role in society and in marriage and the sermons taught about gay people - John Mark Comer has described gay people as perverted, broken and that they need to pray to Jesus to be cured of their "gayness". As it relates to the Roloffs, this issue is a hot button topic for Roloff followers and LPBW fans due to the Roloffs role as Diversity advocates.

Matt and particularly Amy, have gotten paid by diversity groups to spread the message of equality and how members of minority groups should accept their own differences and to accept the differences of others. That message was also used by TLC to promote LPBW over the years. Many believe that by supporting Solid Rock the Roloffs are hypocrites since they have collected money for being portrayed as Diversity advocates when privately, they support agendas that work against what they've been paid to speak about.

It ignites fiery debates about what the Roloffs themselves believe. Matt and Amy Roloff do not give direct answers about the issue and Jeremy does not speak for himself.

I think it's fair to say that most people feel Jeremy echos John Mark's sentiments through his enthusiastic support and the fact that the majority of Jeremy's friends are rather upfront that they share John Mark Comer's sentiments on gay people needing to pray to be cured. Although, I don't think there will be a definitive conclusion on that subject until which time Jeremy takes a stand and decides to speak for himself. Some Roloff family friends such as former "Little People, Big World" producer and close Roloff friend Chris Cardamone, tell people to ask Jeremy himself for his own opinion, but that's kind of a useless suggestion since Jeremy does not speak to "fans" (for the most part) and certainly does not speak to people about a subject like that.

For the record, close friends of Jeremy state that he does echo John Mark Comer's sentiments, but they take issue with Jeremy being described as a "bigot" or "hateful" towards gay people. They say Jeremy doesn't object to being in the presence of gay people and will speak to gay people, but he does not "approve" of gay people for the Biblical reasons that John Mark has discussed about. Jeremy's friends take issue with Jeremy being called a hypocrite for being "pro-dwarf" but "anti-gay". They don't think it's the same thing because in their opinion Jeremy's family members were born with dwarfism and they don't think gay people were born that way. So they object to the word hypocrite being used to describe Jeremy and the Roloffs as a whole.

However, other posters to our site have pointed out that John Mark Comer has also spoken how drunkards -- people that go out on a Friday night to get a "buzz" are sinners and will not enter the Kingdom of God unless they seek Jesus' forgiveness. One of Jeremy's favorite sayings is "A church is not a museum for saints, it is a hospital for sinners". Our guest reviewer and frequent commentator Rap541 has described that as the "Whoopsie! Sorry Jesus" syndrome (meaning that Jesus followers don't need to have any accountabilty for their actions - they just say "Whoopsie! Sorry Jesus" and then "sin" again tomorrow, followed by another "Whoopsie! Sorry Jesus"). But some have pointed out since it's widely known that Jeremy obviously does not follow John Mark's sentiments about drinking or getting drunk as being a sin, that people shouldn't assume that Jeremy also believes what John Mark Comer preaches about gay people needing to "pray the gay away".

So anyhow, John Mark Comer is often discussed on our site mainly due to Jeremy's enthusiasm for him (Molly has also went to Solid Rock events with Jeremy and his friends). In the name of fairness, because JMC is discussed, some of Jeremy's fellow Solid Rock church goers wanted to pass along news that John Mark Comer has authored a book about Anxiety and Depression and healing through Jesus that is now available for sale at Amazon.com. Friends have told us that Jeremy is very excited about the book and Jacob Mueller (Jeremy's best friend, of course) has already read and highly recommends the book.

Here is a description of John Mark Comer's book, entitled "My Name Is Hope"

http://www.amazon.com/My-Name-Hope-depression-melancholy/dp/0615565654

"For years, John Mark Comer thought he was the only man on the planet who struggled with anxiety and depression. He was dead wrong.

Staggering numbers of modern Americans fight anxiety and depression on a daily basis. In 2010, there were 253 million prescriptions for antidepressants in the U.S. alone. That's in a nation of 311 million people. And the battle is nothing new. My Name is Hope is the story of one follower of Jesus who went through the horrors of anxiety and depression and came out the other side. It is his ruthlessly authentic and scripturally authoritative account of prophets and poets, mothers and fathers, and even a Messiah who all came up against anxiety and depression.

"With obvious relevance and prophetic resonance," My Name is Hope "speaks needed truth into the over-stressed, over-medicated reality of our lives and culture. It is a book that will awaken and guide many towards a return home to the hope that is ours in Jesus."

There is also a website for John Mark Comer's book.

http://mynameishope.org/

My Name is Hope // Part 1 from Mark Graybill on Vimeo.

An Update on the Roloffs Subpoena of Google for Spiritswander's and Your Personal Information

2012-01-30T14:47:00.009-07:00

The legal process is still on-going, but we did want to give a quick update on what is happening (people understandably continue to inquire) and where we are at in the process -- because it does in fact -- involve all of you as well.

This is about the subpoena that the Roloffs issued to Google Inc regarding wanting the personal and private information of all that have contributed to Spiritswander. Here is the original article and subsequent article after people offered to contribute.

http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2011/12/spiritswander-cited-in-subpoena-by.html

http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2011/12/how-to-make-donation-to-spiritswander.html

We did file the Motion to Quash the subpoena with U.S District Court within all the stated deadlines that we were given. Google Inc. has given their assurance that they will not release any information responsive information regarding the subpoena until there is a final decision rendered by the judge.

The attorney working for Matthew J Roloff and Amy J Roloff exercised their right to oppose our Motion to Quash. We had a chance to respond to their opposition of our Motion to Quash by Jan 30th and we have done that.

One of the things that has become crystal clear out of this whole process? Remember how Matt or Amy used to occasionally reference in a comment or an interview once in a while, that they paid no attention to bloggers? And most of us dismissed the Roloffs as being untruthful because it was rather obvious that they did in fact pay close attention to Spiritswander and all that commented because of the number of times they would reference discussions were were having or our article topics. Well, I would say that our conclusions are certainly true. I think one would say that the Roloffs are rather obsessed with the Spiritswander site. To such a degree, that I think most of you would be shocked. Not only are the Roloffs aware of the site and the articles, but the Roloff family analyze hundreds upon hundreds of your comments. Counsel working for the Roloffs have entered hundreds of the Spiritswander Blog reader's comments into official court documents.

To clarify something that some of our readers were debating when we first mentioned the subpoena. This subpoena is not only requesting the personal and private information about myself, Spiritswander and my email address. It is not just about Guest Reviewer Rap541. In fact, Rap541's name was not singled out, but other posters screen names were mentioned by the Roloffs and their counsel.

Matt and Amy Roloff indeed are demanding in the subpoena, access to the personal and private identifying information of anyone and every one that has ever submitted a comment to the Spiritswander Blog since its inception 4 years ago. There are approximately 700 Blog articles, items and entries in that 4 year span. Many of the items contain hundreds of comments.

If Matthew J Roloff and Amy J Roloff are successful with the subpoena, they will be handed the personal and private information of hundreds, perhaps thousands of individuals.

We of course think this is outrageous, unlawful and gross violation of hundreds of persons rights. We are fighting the subpoena, not only for ourselves, but on the behalf of everyone whose personal and private information would be given to Matt and Amy Roloff.

The basis of the Roloffs legal argument -- which we still feel is disingenuous -- now seems to be that they claim that they think some of the comments on the blog are so knowledgeable and insightful, that they must have come from Washington County employees. We respectfully point out that the one item we have from Washington County is clearly identified as a statement from Washington County and there is no need to trample on the rights of hundreds of people to know that statement came from Washington County (whom the Roloffs are suing, ironically, claiming they violated their rights...) as a public statement. However, the Roloffs are arguing that because they want to know if one or two Washington County Employees have ever anonymously commented on the case, that they must be granted all of my personal and private information as well as information about my email and that of every person that has ever submitted a comment on the blog in the 4 year existence of this Blog.

We still believe this is a clear abuse of the process and have noted that on Nov 29, 2011 we received a series of menacing, very threatening comments claiming to be a close Roloff Family friend and a business associate. The individual vowed that they would track me down and used the term that they were "Hunting Spiritswander". While it cannot be concluded that the person making the threatening comments was the individual they were claiming to be, we believe that it does give reason to be suspicious of the Roloffs and their friends when you consider that 7 days after someone vowed that they would "Find" me!" and stated that they were "HuntingSpiritswander" that the Roloffs filed for this subpoena on or about December 6th, 2011 requesting my personal information . We have raised this concern with the court that they should not take this issue lightly as this information could be used to harass, stalk or other forms of threatening behavior.

We believe the Roloffs are clearly abusing the subpoena process and entered into court documents Matt Roloff's "tweet" where he stated that the act of subpoenaing Google was "probably the funnest thing [he] has ever done in life" which we believe raises great concerns that Matt is playing games with the process by issuing patently overbroad subpoena requests.

We will have a full, detailed report of this entire process when it is eventually concluded, but for now, we did want to inform all of you what was happening, because the Roloffs are attempting to infringe on your rights as well.

Thank you to all that have offered their various forms of support.

Amy Roloff "Little Big Talk" Recap For Jan 14 and Jan 28, 2012

2012-01-28T20:00:00.004-07:00

Amy Roloff's live internet talk show chat has started up again. She renamed it "Little Big Talk" (previously referred to as "Coffee Chat with Amy".

Amy says she is planning to have it every 2nd week.

We never got around to posting a recap of the first one, so we will recap both the Jan 14th chat and today's chat (Jan 28th).

Amy usually does cooking segments or talks to her friends or local business people in Portland. In our recaps, we stick to more of the fan oriented topics. Basically, if you didn't watch and think you might have missed some big scoop or or important Roloff topic being discussed (you probably didn't, it's pretty "light"), that what we're here for.

Both weeks, various people that were logged in report that the number of people in the chat ranged from about 100 - 150. Amy doesn't really talk with the people on the chat. She doesn't spend much time reading the chat comments. Sometimes Lisa Dixon (Amy's friend and part of ARCF) will ask Amy questions that people in the live chat are asking.

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Jan 14th, 2012

*Amy talked about finally succeeding in getting a publisher for her cook book. She did a photo shoot for the cover of the book. The book is going to be called "Short and Simple".

*There's still a couple of LPBW "specials" to air. It's not the same intense filming as before. The next one (that episode has now aired) focuses on Zach.

*Amy said she gets to know more about her kids from the sound bytes they give for the show.

*Amy discussed the fact that Jeremy is in California. She misses him. She commented that there is a lot more food in the fridge now that Jeremy and his friends aren't around.

*Chatters were asking for the other Roloffs to make an appearance. Amy said Molly and Jacob were sleeping ("Little Big Talk" is on Saturdays starting at 10am PST for an hour or two).

*Update on Jeremy? He's studying photography. He's loving it. Second semester will be tougher. He was home for Christmas break and spent a lot of time with his girlfriend.

*Amy described Zach as going to school, working at Indoor Goals and is still figuring out life.

*Jacob's 15th birthday was Jan 17th. He's working on his driver's permit. Amy said it will depend upon his grades.

*Amy went to a spa with Molly for their birthdays. They waited because there was so much going on in September with Amy's charity event and then pumpkin season.

*Molly made an appearance and ate cereal as she chatted. She's still deciding on colleges. She's not keen on attending universities in Oregon.

*Amy said she needs to send Jeremy a care package because she hasn't done that yet.

*Jeremy took some of Molly's senior pictures, but she was having more done by a friend at school who is also really into photography.

*Molly left after a few minutes. Amy said they come on her internet live streaming show for her; they go along with it.

*Amy wanted Molly to go wake Jacob up so he would come say "hi". Amy said he has longer hair now.

*Amy discussed Jacob. He's going to public high school now. A lot of people know him from TV. He has a few good friends. Amy worries about Jacob every day, but says he's doing good.

*Ads cut into the live streaming program. Amy's tech guy, Rich, said they were annoying.

*They do "shout outs" to people on the chat "We have a viewer from Boston! "Hi Boston!" Mary from Miami. Hi Mary in Miami" - that type of thing.

*A chatter asked Amy how she feels about people coming up to talk to her when she's out. Amy said she loves when people come up to her and tries to get to everyone, but doesn't like it when people interrupt if she is already talking to someone else.

*Amy's not sure about what is going to happen with more LPBW "update specials".

*Amy and Matt are both trying to do speaking events. Matt does more corporate events, while Amy does more with disability/diversity groups and speeches at colleges.

*Amy wants to get back to travelling. In 2013 they might take some big trips. They are thinking about Jamaica. Amy said she might take Molly to Mexico.

*Amy did a cooking segment.

*She was asked about farm animals. Amy doesn't know if they still have goats. They weren't the Roloffs goats. She doesn't know if the farmer took them back to his place or what.

*Amy went back to talking about how she hopes Jacob will wake up and make an appearance for her chat, but he had friends stay over last night and probably stayed up all night.

*Amy said Molly was excited about being registered to vote.

*Jacob's friend, Levi and his mother made an appearance. Amy asked Levi where Jacob was?Levi said he's still asleep upstairs.

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Jan 28th

*Amy discussed some current news stories. She mentioned a family whose daughter was murdered and then the son went on the subway and flashed a gun, people called the police. Amy thinks people should more understanding towards the circumstances young people are dealing with and need to give young people hope.

*Chatters were asking about the height of the Roloffs:

Amy said she is 4'2 and Molly is 5'9.

According to Amy, Jeremy is 6 foot. Lisa could be heard saying "5'11.

Amy said Jacob is 5'5. Molly said he's shorter.

*Amy thinks Jacob needs to start eating healthier.

*They took a question about Zach and Tori. Amy described Tori as a lovely girl. She likes Tori. She's balanced. She reminds Amy of Molly. Tori isn't drama. She's good for Zach. Amy said it would be great if they could maintain their relationship. Amy described Zach as being very black and white. Cold and warm. Amy said uttered the words "Temper tantrums".

*Matt came inside. They called Matt over to the table. Amy said Matt was butchering their pigs. Matt told Amy that she shouldn't talk about it because some people get upset when they talk about that subject. Amy said she likes raising their own animals for food. Matt mentioned using pumpkin seeds and left over pumpkins. He made a joke about their meat smelling like pumpkins.

*Matt said they just a board meeting about CoDA. He says they are about to receive a large grant. Matt described the LPA as being spread very thin, so CoDA tries to help in some other areas. They don't have a lot of money for CoDA, but you can donate through paypal. Matt said they don't put as much time and energy into CoDA as Amy does with her charity foundation.

*Amy had a guest that she had on last year on "Coffee Chat". The guest then transformed into

"Aunt Lena" and joined Amy in the kitchen for a cooking segment. It seemed to go on for about an hour with Amy, "Aunt Lena" and Lisa talking among themselves about cooking. The chatters were getting restless. Some said they couldn't hear them and some were insulting "Aunt Lena"

That was about all.

Television Ratings For 3rd Little People, Big World / Roloff Family Special "Zach's First Love"

2012-01-24T21:59:00.005-07:00

The ratings for the 3rd of 4 TLC specials of Little People, Big World were down from the previous specials.

According to the TV-By-The-Numbers site, Little People, Big World had ratings of 1.258 on Sunday for the 3rd special.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/24/sunday-cable-ratings-kourtney-kim-edge-down-still-lead-atlanta-housewives-ax-men-mob-wives-2-shameless-more/117326/

Although, keep in mind, the TV By The Numbers site listed ratings for the 2nd special of Little People, Big World as 1.534 and then Matt Roloff posted on his Facebook that TLC was "thrilled" at the 1.2 rating it received.

So whatever the case, the number of viewers were down from the 2nd special to the latest special.

It is important to note that Sunday night was a bad night for most cable shows due to the NFL Playoffs. The Kardashian show was down considerably from what they usually receive.

As a comparison, the TLC show that followed LPBW on Sunday night, "Hoarding Buried Alive" had a 1.324 compared to LPBW's 1.258.

The 3rd Little People, Big World / Roloff Family Special: Zach's First Love

2012-01-22T15:56:00.010-07:00

The 3rd special of Little People, Big World featuring the Roloff family airs tonight at 8pm on TLC.

This is the preview from TLC:

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Zach is stuck in a rut and still living at home. Matt and Amy struggle to motivate him to move forward in life, but it's the arrival of a new girlfriend that changes Zach's life in immeasurable ways.

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Our guest reviewer Rap541 has graciously agreed to recap the episode:

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Written By Rap541

Preview:

So lets see, Zach is dating. Good lord, really? Is this what passes for extraordinary now? I am willing to bet actual cash money that we get Matt at some point hay baling how he was a stud at Zach's age and is glad that Zach is finally getting with the program and sowing his seed. Because you know, men need to plow fields (aka have sex with a lot of girls) before they settle down with just one woman as an "old goat". I also bet Matt will not in any way attempt to suggest that Molly should be out "plowing fields" as she is a perfect little princess, and those girls with Zach and Jeremy? Apparently aren't someone's daughters so Matt doesn't care!

For the record, I bet this is a snooze-fest and Zach, like Jeremy, is getting way too old to be Daddy's little helper and Mommy's little man.

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Onto the episode....

So apparently I am missing American Idol for this. I would be more upset if American Idol hadn’t started to suck. I sit through Toddlers and Tiaras where Brock, a boy, is prancingly delighted at how he won both King and Queen Taco Grand Supreme at the ball. Then I realize that the family show Little People Big World is airing at 9pm here. So I switch back to the game. There are a LOT of fat Giants, just saying. Also why is a family show on so late? Well, at least the game is kind of exciting.

Hmmm the game is done (Go Giants! Go cute Eli Manning!) and I switch back to TLC and dear god the show still isn’t on. Now we’re up to the Toddlers and Tiaras showdown between Mackenzie and Eden which by the way is a straight up rerun. Honestly, if I was a Hoarders: Buried Alive fan, I would be totally mad about how LPBW took their late night spot.

Did I mention how late the family show is on?

And how there’s no rerun of the previous specials? And how hilarious it is that rerunning an episode of Toddlers and Tiaras instead of a LPBW special is the financial decision of TLC? And they’re running the special against American Idol and the football playoffs? Yeah TLC cares.

We start with indoor soccer and then we’re in Matt’s office. Matt interrogates Zach on how he’s a loser. Matt hay bales how soccer isn’t a long term career. He demands Zach explain how a career in soccer will be monetized. I imagine its as likely as photography being lucrative, Matt. Does everyone know that photographers average about 30k per year? Makes you wonder how Jer-Bear will buy himself a million dollar house like Matt. Matt tells Zach he’s less than Jeremy and he will toss Zach out of the nest if need be since Jeremy is fully supporting himself now . Oh wait…Jer’s never held a job that Daddy Matt didn’t give him and Daddy Matt is paying for the big boy’s lucrative art school degree.

Zach notes he’s 21 and in community college and has no future. He seems to like the job at the soccer place. He continues to note he wants to be a professional coach,. We get some old footage. Really, it is just sad that there’s no one in Zach’s life that’s ever had a serious career discussion with him.

Now we meet the girl. She apparently has been around since 2010. She likes soccer so Zach thinks she’s hot. Molly seems to like her. Zach takes his family on his dates. There’s cute handholding. Zach notes they smooched in the swamp fort. They rent trikes and race and it feels staged since yeah, its all in front of the cameras. Zach notes how shy his girl is.

Zach notes that people stare and she needs to be strong etc etc. There’s a clearly forced discussion with Jake, in a resteraunt, saying “HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DATING TORI! . Really, I know the Roloffs are often willfully dumb, but they live in the same house. I always knew when my brother and sister had new boy friends. Zach notes how dating average heights is weird.

I kind of get the vibe through out this entire episode that Matt and Amy see Tori as a passing fancy.

Amy notes how shocked she is that Zach is dating. Matt also notes how Zach is dating. Considering how incredibly important Zach dating has been, perhaps he decided to get with the program to get Mom and Dad off his back? Everyone eats spaghetti. Amy thinks Tori will dump his ass. Matt uses the moment to embarrass Zach and hay bales how he’s glad Zach is finally plowing some fields and being more like Jeremy.

Amy chides Zach about how the job at Indoor Goals is crap and he needs to be more like Jeremy. I’m really unsure why dead end job and unrealistic career goals is less acceptable than no job and unrealistic career goals but I’m sure someone will tell me. Amy tells him how stagnate he is. Zach hay bales how in fact his childhood was rather protected. Amy goes on and on about how Zach is too comfortable and needs to get moving and set goals. The entire time she is lecturing him, she is making him a sandwich and this lecture ends with Amy noting that he needs to man up. And then she hands him his special man meal that she made for her little man. Geez Amy, there’s problem number one.

Back to soccer. Tori likes soccer so she’s like a boyfriend. They play soccer. Zach goes on and on about girls and soccer and soccer and girls and passing the ball. Oooh Conjoined Twins Later! Zach, to be fair, actually looks like he’s been showering. It’s a nice change

Matt and Zach go to the go kart track. Matt wants Zach to learn that Matt is always right and should have his ass kissed more often by Zach. They get the go karts rigged and now we have the obligatory race. Because Roloffs race! This isn’t completely staged and we haven’t seen Matt be a competitive ass over childish things in two previous specials at all. Matt spins out in his car. Frankly it looked fake. Matt notes he did it so Zach could learn to reach for the stars like Matt and not be a loser. Then they eat milk shakes and Matt asks about Tori. Again, maybe some of Zach’s maturity issues come from the fact that Daddy is taking him for go karts and milkshakes at 21. I mean, he’s 21, Matt. Neither Amy or Matt seem to think Tori will stick around long. I’m sure Tori is appreciating that tonight. Matt tells Zach that to keep a woman, he needs to make money. Hmm. I wonder if he told Jeremy that. I recall Jeremy’s lecture involved scoring with as many chicks as possible before being forced to settle for just one. Matt proceeds to tell Zach to man up.

I’m really struck by what an infant Zach is and by how is mom and dad infantilize him.

Oh Hoarders is on! Oh wait, its just the Roloff home! Zach notes how he’s 21 and its time he wore clean clothes. Tori wanders into the pigsty and says eww. She then gets all “what are you keeping?”. Zach notes that Tori is way out of his league They store his crap in the barn. Then Tori asks “How’s Indoor Goals? What do you want to do?” I suspect this is for the camera. Zach is going to look for work with the Portland Timbers. He wants to get his foot in the door but doesn’t seem to know how.

Amy cleans. Then she yells at Zach to get his resume together. Amy hay bales how people will say no to him because he’s a little person. True but there’s more to it than that. Zach heads off to his interview for…. What? I mean there’s no job discussed.

The Portland Timbers guy is an Aussie, I think. Zach actually has a coaching license? Some sort of license. The head coach seems to like him. In fairness, Zach comes off a lot better when Jeremy isn’t there. I’ve wondered that for a long time, if part of the problem is the “conjoined” aspect of the twins’s lives. That’s a mom and dad issue btw, not a Jeremy issue. They talk about coaching scenarios and coaching jobs. I really don’t think this was a job interview at all. Now we have Zach watching the game being played while inspirational music is played. Yeah um… what exactly was he interviewing for?

Zach heads home. The counter is covered with wine bottles. He needs a “D” license and basically they gave him their business card. Amy explains how to read the card. She laughs but again, it’s a problem.

Zach is writing some sort of thank you letter. Mueller jokes, Tori seems to take it seriously. I am genuinely shocked he knows to write a thank you letter. Tori and Zach head out for a date. Zach notes that if he treats a girl nicely, she’s less concerned about his appearance as a dwarf. He seems so shocked. They go to the Tavern. Zach notes that etiquette with a girl is awkward. Zach orders for her. This is what every young couple wants, cameras on a date Zach goes on how he’s in love. I notice we haven’t gotten any hay bales from Tori. Yet.

The date drags on thru the commercial break. They have dated for 7 months. Yet this is being presented as a new thing. Oh finally Tori in a confessional. She likes Zach. She seems nice. Since this was filmed in September, I wonder if they are still dating.

Back at the house. Zach is screwing around with a soccer ball and gets a phone call. He gets called for an internship job. Zach and Matt discuss this intern while Mo licks his butt. I mean, its natural and all but kind of an indicator just how fast this filmed since they didn’t reshoot to avoid cats licking their butts. Matt privately (heh) hay bales that Zach is FINALLY doing something. Because this hasn’t been harped on the entire episode, how Matt is disappointed. Matt notes that he and Amy are attending and this all feels intentional. As in, gosh the Portland Timbers are awfully accommodating and gosh funny how Matt had time in his very busy schedule to attend the game Zach was interning at even though it all seemed to go down at last minute.

Zach gets a special uniform and gets instructed on what to do. He’s time keeping. There is soccer footage. Matt and Pondo of the Cheap Douchebags are there. Zach notes he has to do well or else consider moving to a town with more opportunity.

And we’re back. This is the final game of the season so no, this isn’t a job for Zach. Zach works, and fills out paper work and soccer is played. Zach seems to leave and joins Matt in the stands. Which is odd because it doesn’t seem like the game was over. Zach goes on about his passion. Amy hay bales how Zach is taking a big first step. Matt hay bales how Zach is taking a big first step. And done! Matt and Amy sure don’t think much of Zach, do they?

I feel for Tori.

Amy Roloff Coffee Chat (Live Internet Talk Show) Returns Saturday Jan 14, 2012

2012-01-10T13:20:00.005-07:00

Amy Roloff's live internet "talk show" that she has called "Coffee Chat With Amy" is returning this Saturday Jan 14th at 10am Pacific time.

Amy and her team have posted these messages on all of her various social networking sites:

"Hey everyone, join me on little BIG Talk with Amy Saturday, 14th, 10-11. Go to www.amyroloffcf.org to log in, a little talk here and there and BIG talk on a topic. Your questions, suggestions, and input are talked about to. IT'S LIVE. what's up. More info to follow. I'm starting up again and beginning on a Saturday. Woohoo."

Amy's previous "Coffee Chats" have been held via Ustream:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/amy-roloff

Amy's live internet "coffee chats" began after the cancellation of "Little People, Big World" and continued pretty regularly -- every Friday -- until about June of 2011 when the LPBW specials were announced.

Previously, Amy began holding her internet chats in a coffee shop and would have a local guest. She then moved it to her home. Occasionally, the Roloff kids (and once, Matt) would make an appearance, but I think it's fair to say they appeared to be rather reluctant and not much was ever revealed. Amy often did cooking segments or interviewed guests such as musician Patrick Lamb while Amy's life chat audience asked questions.

Some people made the observation that towards the end of the "Coffee Chat with Amy" series, Amy appeared more reluctant to talk about the kids and discuss the real events in the lives of the Roloffs - even though that's what the chatters kept asking about. Amy seemed like she wanted the chat talk to be directed at her cooking segments and interviews of her guests rather than questions about her kids and the ever popular "How is Rocky doing?" (which was asked multiple times in every coffee chat).

The most discussed or note-worthy incident to come from Amy's Live Internet Coffee Chat from Spiritswander readers, was after Amy had said all questions are welcome and asked for some "tough questions". A chatter named Kyle asked Amy about the Solid Rock church that Jeremy and the Roloffs love so much and the issues of hypocrisy because some of the church's messages that are taught appear to contradict the content of Amy's speeches in her role as a paid Diversity speaker about acceptance of people who are different.

You can read our detailed recap of that show here:

http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2011/01/amy-roloff-answers-question-re.html

Amy appeared to be a bit rattled by the question (and gave a vague answer). People noticed that in Amy's chats after that question/show she appeared to be less willing to take/answer questions.

So to recap: Amy's Coffee Chat: Live Internet show returns this Saturday at 10:00 AM Pacific time.

A Roloff Year In Review - Looking Back On Matt's 2011 Project Agenda

2012-01-07T13:16:00.013-07:00

Now that 2011 is behind us, we thought now would be a good time to do a Year in Review of the Roloff Family. In January 2011 Matt made a You Tube that he called his 2011 Project Agenda.

http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2011/01/matt-roloffs-video-update-his-2011.html

He outlined 12 "focus areas" of projects and ideas he was going to work for the year. Since Matt admittedly does a great deal of teasing and hinting and "I can't tell you now" stuff, some of which he says is for the "silly bloggers" -- we would be slacking if we didn't go back and review Matt's list to what actually ended up happening or did not happen.

We will quote our original review/summary of Matt's Video in 2011 in red font and then follow-up with the results in blue font.

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It's 17 minutes long in total, so we will summarize Matt's major points. This is all according to Matt in the video (unless otherwise specified).

*Matt makes a "focus area" list at the beginning of each year. He has approximately 14 focus areas for 2011. People send him private messages thinking he means all of his project ideas have to do with things on the farm. Most of them don't. Here are some of the things on his list.

*He's going to try to spend more time with the family. The filming of the TV show took more time than people realize because they needed to meet with producers and plan out things. Even running out to the bank was time consuming when the cameras were there because they needed to film it a couple of times until they got it right.

*So Matt wants to spend more time with the family this year; he's fortunate to have his office at home so he can see the kids when they come home from school.

*Matt is spending more time with Jacob than he ever has before. He has taken Jacob to the mall and to movies more in the last couple of months than they've been in Jacob's entire life.

Throughout 2011, Matt continued to frequently post on his Facebook Fan Page that he took Jacob to the movies and to the mall. However, despite the extra time Matt said he was devoting to his youngest son, it didn't prevent one of the most significant events in 2011 from happening. That was Jacob being expelled from Faith Bible in April with just over a month to go in the school year.

Both Matt and Amy broke the news on their Fan Pages that Jacob had been "kicked out" of the private Christian school that was featured on Little People, Big World since the beginning of the series.

Amy and Matt's very first reaction was to express anger at the school which included an unsuccessful pitch for the school to allow Jacob to finish the year since there was only one month to go. Amy had asked for prayers before that meeting. The school stuck to their decision to expel Jacob. Matt was on a solo vacation in Hawaii at the time and cut his vacation short when Faith Bible decided to expel Jacob from their school.

Next, after originally announcing that Jacob would be home-schooled, they ended up taking him for a state test that determined he could move onto Grade 9 in September if he worked on a few subjects. Matt and Amy enlisted him in a learning center/tutor program for a few hours a day per week until the end of the year. At the time, Matt posted that he "never liked that school" (Faith Bible) and turned it into Jacob being too creative for the school and it was holding him back.

Matt expressed that he was very proud of Jacob and Jacob was happier than he's been in years now that he was expelled. Fans listening to Matt's description of the incident then congratulated on Matt, Amy and Jacob for being expelled, for being creative and for being allowed to move onto Grade 9.

It sounds like something out of the twilight zone -- offering "congratulations" after a kid got expelled from school, but Matt did somehow manage to spin the story in a way that left some of his fans congratulating Jacob on what had happened. Matt has been referred to as a "Master of Spin"....we tend to agree. :)

Jacob is now attending a public school.

*Molly is so self-sufficient and doesn't need much, but it's important to Matt to go to movies with her and attend some of her volleyball games.

Not much changed for Molly in 2011. She continued to do well in High School. She is now a senior and will graduate in June 2012. She has applied to several Christian Universities including Pepperdine in California, Seattle Pacific and Whitworth University in Washington. During one of Amy's live internet chats earlier in the year, Molly expressed that although she had looked into places located in Oregon such as George Fox or Portland State, she was leaning more towards a university in Washington or California.

*Jeremy and Zach -- Matt is trying to coach them or "hold their hand" through the process of applying for different colleges. It's still undecided about Jeremy going to one college vs another college or Jeremy leaving home, so Matt is working to motivate them. Matt reports that it's getting easier. They are more into it now because some of them friends are at different colleges. They'll sometimes ask Matt 'what about this place, can you help with this application and can you get so and so to write a a letter of recommendation for here'.

*Zach is still working hard at the soccer place and Jeremy continues to work hard around the farm on top of everything else they do.

Not much changed for Zach in 2011 as far as where he lives, works or goes to school.

The most significant change for Zach in 2011 was that he now has found his first real girlfriend -- a girl named Tori. She was shown in one of the LPBW specials that aired in late 2011, but wasn't identified as Zach's girlfriend, although she is.

Several of Zach's friends in the LP Community reported that his behavior had completely changed at this year's National LPA conference held in Anaheim, California (the first year Zach was 21 for a LPA conference). Friends reported that the once reserved, quiet and shy Zach who used to express his annoyance at stupid drunk antics, was routinely drunk on the dance floor and was "all over" several LP girls, despite having a girlfriend back at home (the aforementioned Tori). Zach seemed to survive any ramifications from his wild party behavior at the LPA Conference as Zach and Tori remain in a relationship together and friends report that they are very happy together.

Probably without question, the biggest change in the Roloff Family in 2011 was that one of the kids has finally left home. In September 2011 Jeremy left for a photography school in California called Brooks Institute of Photography located in Santa Barbara, California. Though it is a for profit school, Jeremy was actually accepted in late 2009, but Jeremy mulled over different options and eventually committed to the school and started in Sept 2011.

Jeremy, like Zach, also found himself a steady girlfriend in 2011 -- a girl named Audrey -- who like Jeremy is an enthusiastic supporter of the Solid Rock Church and lists Pastor John Mark Comer as one of the people that inspires her the most.

I think it is fair to say that Jeremy is by far the most controversial Roloff and the Roloff that generates the most heated of debates. 2011 was no exception for Jeremy and discussion.

Pictures of Jeremy's best friend (Jacob Mueller) throwing the Roloff cat named Mo (the black and white cat) high in the air while Jeremy sat on the sofa and snapped pictures of Mo the cat airborne generated an angry response from people.

Jeremy's affection and association with a very conservative church in Portland called Solid Rock and the lead Pastor - John Mark Comer, continued to generate a lot of discussion. It is mainly due to some of the Church's rather extreme views such as gay people are perverted and broken and need to pray to Jesus and then can be cured of their homosexuality. The church also has some very conservative views on a woman's role in society and in marriage -- her role to serve the husband. This issue always generates attention because of the perceived hypocrisy of the Roloff Family since Matt and Amy also have attended Solid Rock church and have expressed that they are pleased that Jeremy (and to a lesser extent --Molly) love Solid Rock so much. Some fans feel the Roloffs are being massive hypocrites when they are paid Diversity Speakers delivering speeches about acceptance of people who are different, when they and many in their family are connected to and support organizations that teach that people different from themselves should pray their difference way and pray to be "normal".

Jeremy's best friend and LPBW regular Mueller, whom Jeremy spent most of the summer hanging out with day after day, also generated more controversy (in addition to the "cat tossing" pcitures) when a video emerged on You Tube in late summer which featured his then girlfriend from France (who had been living in Oregon), Mueller and one of the other Roloff friends - an 18 year old named Christian - drinking in the Roloff Garage. Shots of Jack Daniels could clearly be seen in the video. Mueller will not turn 21 until next month - February 2012.

DAS (the hotel accessibility kit for LP). Matt started the company with Mike Detjen in 2002. Matt says it continues to be a profitable business even though he hasn't done any sales calls on it recently. Matt wants to really focus on it again and be aggressive in selling it.

No news on the DAS kits in 2011.

*Matt's speaking engagements. Matt likes to go to colleges and universities and motivate and inspire people by talking about things that happened in his life that will help other people live an extraordinary life. It's very close to his heart, he enjoys doing it. He does 24 to 30 of those a year and expects that to continue.

Matt and Amy have given speeches to colleges – usually paid for by the diversity groups of the various Colleges.

*CoDA. Amy will continue to be busy with her non profit charity ARCF and Matt has his non profit CoDA. They have the bike program, raise money for adoptions and scholarships through the LPA. Matt states they have absolutely no expenses, that they are all volunteers. They use the basketball (Statesmen vs celebrities) games to raise money for CoDA. According to Matt, Marty and Matt pay for the Statesmen and celebrities to travel to those games out of their own pockets. [note: This seems to be Matt's response to a criticism some people have been making about CoDA. Some people think the CoDA basketball games are an excuse for them to get together and party -- claiming that the Roloffs fly first class, stay in nice hotels and ride around in limos. Recently, some people have been citing that Marty back in August, a couple of weeks before the CoDA game in Montana, asked his fans to donate to CoDA and help him out because it gets hard for Marty to fly in and house all the Statesmen and celebrity players -- some people were upset that CoDA donations appeared to be going towards paying for Matt, Zach, and Jeremy's (and all the others) flight, hotel and limos.]

There were no new CoDA charity games in 2011. The Statesman (Zach was the only Roloff involved) dwarf basketball team appeared very briefly in an episode of the WWE reality show Tough Enough.

The CoDA website doesn't appear to have been updated any time recently.

Amy remained very active with the Amy Roloff Charity Foundation. She held her annual Golf and Auction event in September. Amy frequently attends events such as Food or Toy drives. The Amy Roloff Charity Foundation partnered with Generosity Water to raise donations to build a water well in Haiti and/or other countries that desperately need clean water.

*Matt wants to make himself available to do various Public Service Announcements. He wants to be able to be more available to say yes when people ask him to be apart of this parade or moderate this event, etc.

Aside from being paid to be a diversity speaker at some events, there wasn't much on this front in 2011. Matt did appear in an episode of ABC's Extreme Makeover - Home Edition; but I don't think that would really be considered as a public service announcement.

*Documentaries. He's working on several. Some of them are about little people, some are about outrageous back yards - not theRoloffs, but showing off other people's back yards and crazy projects. They might document those on video camera and maybe they'll just put it on You Tube or maybe they'll find a market for it on a TV network.

In the early to mid part of 2011, Matt mentioned that he was filming a documentary on his "dirt deal" (Intel paid Matt to allow them to dump their dirt from the new plant they were building on land Matt had purchased). During a couple of Amy's live internet talk shows, Amy referenced the filming of the documentary. However, as of yet, nothing has been released.

*There's a project idea about revitalizing a small town. Coming into a dying town where people have left and see whether they can stimulate the economy and bring people back. These are the type of things Matt is talking about when you see him post about flying to LA to sign non disclosures and things like that.

Matt still occasionally references on his Facebook Fan Page that he flew to LA, but nothing has been announced on this front either.

*None of those things are what Matt would call a spin off of LPBW or anything like that. The Roloffs are still under contract to TLC for another 18 months. They need to make themselves available to TLC if TLC wants anything from them, but Matt doesn't expect to happen, although you might see a special somewhere along the way, they have discussed that, but right now they're not at all focused on LPBW and TLC.

So much for not being focused on LPBW and TLC :) From about April on, Matt and Amy quite frequently posted about LPBW and TLC for the duration of 2011.

In about April, Matt began hinting that TLC was begging the Roloffs to do more shows. Our sources contradict Matt's version. Our sources (who, I will point out, were one hundred percent correct about there being 4 specials long before that was ever announced) said that it was definitely Matt who contacted TLC. We were told the Roloffs were angling were a grand vacation in the deal – TLC was unwilling. They eventually agreed on the 4 specials and in the first special, the vacation featured in the episode was an RV trip from Oregon to California.

*Farm development. Matt's thinking about projects for pumpkin season, he will keep everyone updated on those to help promote pumpkin season. Last pumpkin season was very successful to Matt's surprise. Matt thought with the show being over people wouldn't be interested in going to Roloff Farms for pumpkins but they actually had their busiest day ever. [Note: Although Matt said the show was over and the news of it ending was announced in late August, during October LPBW was very much still on the air with new episodes]

A LPBW special aired in October and TLC filmed some of the pumpkin season for the 2nd special. Matt made his 50th birthday into an event and promoted it for months in advance.

The Roloffs set up a still webcam on the farm via Ustream. It was an idea that some of Matt's fans back on his mattroloff.com message board had suggested for years. I think it's fair to say the reaction was less than exuberant. It was a still camera with no sound that consisted of random pumpkin customers walking past. They would sometimes change the location, however some complained that the Roloffs never or rarely ever appeared and wondered what the point was of the whole thing.

As far as Farm Development, the Roloffs purchased the neighbors farm in 2011. This solved the parking problems the Roloffs used to encounter for Pumpkin Season. Matt has been posting about working on several of the old worn down buildings on the farm, including barns and an old farm house. Some speculate the Roloff kids will eventually move in - as Matt had posted that Jeremy told him to save the old house (on the new property) for him. That remark generated some negative comments from observers that want to see the older Roloff kids (Jeremy and Zach will be 22 in May, Molly 19 in September and Jacob will turn 15 later this month) demonstrate some independence on their own and earn their own way instead of relying on Matt and Amy to buy and pay for everything for them.

The farm will stay open for pumpkin season

It did. See above.

*Publishing: A children's book has been discussed and a 'Behind the Scenes' of the LPBW experience book. It would also pick up where Matt's first book, Against Tall Odds left off in 1999. There was a 5 year gap between that book and when they got involved in television.

Neither of Matt's book ideas happened in 2011.
Amy has talked about wanting to author a cook book all year and expressed some frustration at how long the process has taken. Earlier this week she posted a picture from a "food photo shoot" that she said is for her cook book.

*Technology projects. Matt's background is in software as a salesman. Now he's in position where he might be able to fund some of those ideas with his own money.

While Matt hinted and teased for many weeks and months about his big project with Intel and stabilizing their water supply – it turned out his involvement was purchasing land and then acting as a contractor with Intel for them to use his land as a dumping ground.

*Product endorsements. If you have a product and would like Matt to promote it, get in touch with him. Although some of those things might need to go through TLC right now because they are still under contract for the next 18 months. TLC still has a say in what theRoloffs can and can't do. Matt says he already has a line up of possibilities; nothing major on national television, these are more small print ads.

*Voice over work and cartoons and things like that he will keep on the table to keep their revenue stream going forward.

Not much on that front became reality in 2011, although some would point out that Matt did do a few spots for the Matt Damon movie "We Bought A Zoo" -- the spots aired only during the TLC special of LPBW in December.

*An adventure park similar to Roloff farm -- but not on Roloff Farm. Matt has a group of heavy hitters and politicians that he meets with regularly to discuss this adventure park. They've identified a piece of land and are looking into the land use laws.

It is a bit unclear whether this idea was side-tracked by the Intel dirt-dumping deal. Matt and business partners did purchase land, but it was used for the dump site. Matt has referred to ideas such as using the huge amounts of dirt as a "Pumpkin Mountain".

More recently there was an article in the local Oregon news, although Matt wasn't mentioned by name, detailing that there has been controversy and complaints from owners of the neighboring land about all of the dirt from the dump sites.

*The legislative process. Matt got more involved last year with politics. He's more interested in the legislative process. He mentions the lawsuit, they need to litigate to get laws changed. He's going to keep up with the process and might make some trips down to Salem to sit in on some of the sessions at the political level.

Matt did not announce his candidacy for the Republican Presidential Nomination :)
Matt did Facebook his support for Herman Cain. Matt expressed that he felt Herman Cain had many good ideas for the country.

*Hobby movies. They are going to continue to work on their hobby movies. Jeremy is working a lot of them. Every night they sit down for dinner Jeremy has more ideas. So they're going to get their home movie production equipment going -- they have a studio set up and will upgrade some of their equipment to make some fun movies. Slightly more professional than Matt's You Tube videos, but nothing really professional or broadcast quality, just fun stuff.

I think it's fair to say that this idea didn't become reality - at least nothing that could be considered a movie.

During the first quarter of 2011, Matt posted a few You Tube videos including the one we're discussing now - his 2011 Project Agenda. Matt made another You Tube video in his office where he discussed his week. That video is probably most memorable to people for the little humorous white lies the Roloffs told as Matt pretended that Jacob randomly walked into his office while he was doing his video and invited Jacob to speak on camera. However, astute viewers noticed that Jacob was in the room the whole time as his reflection could be seen in the fireplace. The Roloffs went as far as opening and closing the office door to make it sound as if Jacob was really entering and exiting, when he was in the room the entire time.

Getting back to the topic of "hobby movies", In December 2010 on his You Tube channel Jeremy announced that he would post more movies over Christmas break. That never really happened. Jeremy filmed a couple of little videos about Sam Roloff's artwork and they filmed a high school project for Molly and her/their friends. One featured their friend Christian running around the farm. Christian would become better known to Spiritswander readers as the under age kid that was seen drinking in the Roloff garage along with Mueller and some French girls. (The You Tube video with the drinking footage in the Roloffs garage was then deleted after we had posted about it).

Early in the year, Amy began holding live internet "Coffee Chats" via Ustream on Fridays. While Amy still sort of lets on as though she'll get around to it soon (some people have asked her recently on her Facebook Fan Page), it's notable that she hasn't had her internet show since the LPBW specials began filming.

Molly posted a video of her and friends on a You Tube channel. The video featured Molly's friends playing a character called "Dr. Hemp". Some You Tube users posted comments to Molly's public videos stating that referencing drugs wasn't very Christian. An annoyed Molly responded to some of those comments stating that people better not ever judge a Roloff or their friends walk with Jesus and that she felt a lot of hate in the comments. She directed the comment to someone that said they were confused Christians and should realize that you can have a good time without drugs or alcohol.

Kerderler: Dr Hemp...that's very wholesome Christian of you folks. Poor confused young Christians. Maybe one day you'll realize that true followers of Christ don't need alcohol or drugs to have a good time (and won't lie about it either).

mojoro2: @kerderler true followers of Christ would know that other true follows of Christ aren't perfect and wouldnt post nasty comments tearing them down. True followers of Christ would do their best to build up the body of Christ in truth and in love. so why do i feel so much hate in your comment? Dont ever judge my or my brother's/friends walk with Jesus. You don't know what youre talking about.

Our frequent poster and guest reviewer Rap541's comment regarding Molly's response was:

Rap541: "Good lord.... if thats true, then why do so many Christians applaud Jeremy's "faggithole" remarks? If being a Christian means you need to do your best to build up the body of Christ, then why is it ok for Mueller and Jeremy's friends to tell a fan of the show to kill herself and call her a big loser and a b*tch for saying she thought Jeremy was awesome? If Judging is wrong then why is Molly judging the person who commented by saying she feels hate in the comment? Really, Molls, smoke up that hemp and listen up. Your comment amounts to "No one who claims to be Christian should ever judge us, and as a Christian, I judge you as a HATER and will look down on you accordingly." I can't be the only one seeing the contradiction. Or the hypocrisy"

After we posted about Molly's You Tube video, she turned her video to private (that tends to happen a lot after we post about it :)

Molly's response to the You Tube video essentially marked the first time that fans got to see the real Molly Roloff respond on her own to fan comments about the Roloffs. Matt basically doesn't allow his kids (even as adults) or their friends to interact with fans or anything public unless it is under his control and his direction.

*They still have their pumpkin movie that should be out soon. They're working on the score for it down in LA. Matt says he's not all that proud of that movie -- he thinks it looked better on the television show than it does in real life -- but they're going to get it out there somehow. They might put it on iTunes and sell it for 99 cents -- nobody will get rich off it or make their money back, but it might be a fun way to see how that system works out.

As of Jan 7, 2012, the pumpkin movie featured in an episode of LPBW still has not been released via Itunes or any other venue.

*All these things are subject to change. If he starts hearing people Facebook him come June asking him how come he's not doing this or why did that fall through Matt is just going to say go back to the disclaimer.

We gave it a full year before following up on this :) It was the list for 2011, now that it is 2012, it seemed like a good time to go back and see the results of Matt's project list. Matt hasn't yet posted his Project Agenda list for 2012.

Matt Roloff General Discussion

2012-01-04T20:20:00.004-07:00

Due to popular demand -- we are opening this item up again as a place for people to express their opinions on the Roloffs -- more specifically their opinions on Matt's entries on his public Facebook Fan Page found here:

http://www.facebook.com/RealMattRoloff

Matt has posted previously on his Facebook Fan Page explaining that his page is not a democracy. Dissenting opinions have often been deleted and/or the person banned from Matt's Facebook page, so some have asked us to open up a venue where people can express their opinions on general Roloff discussion whether they agree or disagree, like or dislike various Roloff online posts and sentiments.

Matt Roloff Interview with CNN Showbiz Tonight

2011-12-19T14:11:00.002-07:00

Matt Roloff was recently interviewed by CNN's Showbiz Tonight show. Thanks to Tiffany for contributing this.

Here is the complete transcript from their show:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1112/16/sbt.01.html

The anchors talk about how Matt and Amy have a successful marriage and so many people on reality tv have their marriage crumble. He talks about the TV show causes arguments when it airs because they get upset at each for what they said on the show.

The interviewer asks if there was ever anything that the Roloffs said no to as far as content that TLC wanted to air. Matt said there were a couple of things and referenced Amy pulling her pants down when she was stung by a bee. Matt says he put his foot down because it was a family show and they shouldn't be showing Amy in her underwear. Matt says that Amy didn't care if they showed it and that was the biggest debate they've had about something like that.

Matt states that he wanted to tell everybody about his DUII and that he wasn't in the bar, but the publicist said no.

The host told them Matt told them they felt pressure to do "over-the-top" things to create drama.

Then CNN Showbiz tonight went on to talk about the Kardashians.

You can read the entire transcript here:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1112/16/sbt.01.html

How To Make A Donation To The Spiritswander Defense Fund

2011-12-16T19:02:00.008-07:00

In response to our item about Google being served a subpoena by Roloff lawyers requesting the personal, private and all identifying information regarding anyone that created, edits or has ever contributed any written material to Spiritswander -- see the item here:

http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2011/12/spiritswander-cited-in-subpoena-by.html

Several of our readers have generously offered to donate to the cause as people feel strongly about right and wrong and the infringement of first amendment rights.

With the way the legal system is set up -- even to defend yourself and the rights of others -- there are costs. In addition to the information required in filing a Motion To Quash the subpoena -- there are filing fees that are typically required. We were still unsure how we were going to proceed. Many of our readers now that they know of what is going on, feel very strongly about this issue and have offered to donate to the cause.

There is now a paypal account that you can donate if you wish to contribute to the costs required for Spiritswander to defend first amendment rights in this case and what we believe (and the legal opinion that we were given) is a misuse of subpoena powers since our personal and private information of contributors are completely unrelated and irrelevant to the Roloffs lawsuit against Washington county Oregon, the building inspector and the supervisor/department of land use.

We gave this careful consideration and only decided to set this up because our loyal readers and supporters have stated that they feel so strongly and want to support the cause.

As we've stated all along, Spiritswander is not about personal profit. We pledge that all monies donated will go towards the costs involved in these proceedings. If for any reason -- it does not come to that or the amount donated (we have already received some very, very generous dontations that makes the goal attainable!) exceeds the costs necessary to file, we will donate the money to a charity.

Some have suggested a LP related charity. Some have suggested donating to the Salman family (the family originally from Iraq that was featured on episodes of LPBW). Some have suggested a charity involved in the prevention of animal mistreatment (since one of the reasons why the Roloffs dislike us so is that we carried the items such as the one depicting how Jeremy and Mueller were throwing Roloff cat Mo while snapping pictures of it high in the air for their amusement -- we stated that we felt that was wrong and cruel towards the cat). Others have suggested to add a tinge of irony to this and to show a bit of humor, if money is donated to a charity - we should donate it to Matt Roloff's CoDA charity or the Amy Roloff Charity Foundation in the name of Spiritswander and friends. Perhaps we would all receive a thank you note from the Roloff family :-)

On a serious note, I do think this is sad that any amount of time, energy and money is going towards legal proceedings instead of something productive that helps people who need help the most. However, unfortunately this is the way the Roloffs have chosen to operate and this is apparently how they want to spend their time, focus and money -- so sometimes defending yourself and your rights is the right thing to do. So if you wish to donate, you can do so here:

Spiritswander Cited In Subpoena By Roloff Lawyers VS Washington County

2011-12-14T11:44:00.025-07:00

As we said a couple of weeks ago, we maintain this site as a hobby and for the entertainment and knowledge of our readers -- many of whom have been with us going onto 4 years -- so we try to be as upfront as possible with our readers and share with you all things that are going on 'behind the scenes'.

With Christmas approaching, are the Roloffs in the Christmas Spirit? Filled with love and focused on spreading the love of Christ to all? Well, maybe not.

In what we think was a very bizarre and ridiculous move -- earlier this week Spiritswander received a notice from Google (who owns Blogger that of course hosts - Spiritswander) that they have received a Subpoena from lawyers representing Matthew J Roloff and Amy J Roloff in their court case VS Washington County, the building inspector and the supervisor.

What does Spiritswander have to do with a court case in Oregon between the Roloff family and Washington County over land use, permits and inspections...? Yeah, nothing. We think it's totally bizarre and ridiculous too, but it gets even more absurd.

The documents being requested are all relating to my personal and private information. The Roloff laywers are requesting all identifying information for anyone that authors, edits or contributes to Spiritswander.

We have until the end of December to file a Motion To Quash the subpoena if we choose to go that route. The legal advice we've been given is that if we choose to do that, it has a high probability of being granted because of how completely irrelevant it is to the court case being cited. Spiritswander obviously has nothing to do with the details of the dispute between the Roloffs and Washington County. We had items on the case. Reported the news of it. Described the incident and linked statements from both parties about the case. But obviously personal and private information about myself couldn't have less to do to that case. The legal opinion that we were given is that it seems to be a clear misuse of subpoena powers.

In my opinion, this both borders on absurdity and amusement. As our readers and anyone that has 'kept up' with the Roloffs for the last several years will know, the Roloffs have always been rather obsessed with their dislike of Spiritswander and that we report things and express opinions that they don't want people to read. As per Matt's own appointed moderator on his site, Matt implemented a rule that no person was allowed to write the word "Spiritswander" on a site that he owned. People familiar with Matt Roloff's Official Facebook page and before that - the Roloff Newsletters or Q&A segments know all about the numerous references Matt would make about "bloggers" - and really, there is only one blog site about the Roloffs -- Spiritswander.

It has always annoyed the Roloffs that we don't identify ourselves (although Matt has no problem with the use of Screen names when a person is expressing a pro-Roloff opinion).

For our part, I've always been upfront as to why. This is a hobby and a free service that we provide to people that are interested in truth and the interesting dynamics of real reality vs. how things are portrayed on a "reality show". We don't do this for money. We haven't made even 10 cents off of the Spiritswander site. We don't do this for personal attention. If I was looking to further a career, I would plaster my name all over the place. I'm not looking for personal attention. Some bloggers do their blog so they can eventually write a book about the celebrity. We aren't doing that. Some bloggers hook up podcasts and do radio shows. We aren't doing that.

Some bloggers blog about themselves and make themselves the story. Hey, I just got a new addition to my home yesterday-- a kitten from a shelter-- I could use Spiritswander to blog about all of that, but I don't. I don't because I understand that's not what our readers are looking for. It's not about me. People come to the site because they want to have the opportunity to read truthful information about the Roloffs so they are in a position to have an educated opinion -- whatever that is.

That's our goal and that's what we do. Because we don't do this for personal attention and don't gain anything at all financially, I've never felt there was anything to gain by plastering my name over the internet. It's as simple of that. We have our detractors as anyone does and why risk subjecting ourselves to harassment, stalking and even potential harm (see the previous item about the threats we have received) when we are not gaining anything out of it? If we were seeking to be celebrities like the Roloff family and were receiving the perks -- the trade outs and the money -- then maybe that trade off would be something to consider, but we are not. If personal information that subjects Spiritswander to harassment, stalking, puts our safety in potential danger, then I suppose we will need to consider future legal action ourselves if it were to come to that.

This is amusing from the standpoint that it is proof of what people have suspected for years. It certainly sheds light on just how focused the Roloffs are on Spiritswander. That they are spending likely thousands and thousands of dollars on lawyer fees and time and energy thinking about subpoenas so they can find out personal information (sounds kind of stalker-ish, in my opinion) about the site that they dislike.

The amusing part is that my name won't actually mean anything to the Roloffs. However, do the Roloffs think it will? That is something our readers might find interesting. We have heard from multiple friends and associates of the Roloffs over the years who have informed us that the Roloffs have actually accused (falsely, of course) multiple real friends of theirs of being Spiritswander. That could give you an idea of how focused the Roloffs are about our site. That they would actually go to the lengths of falsely accusing friends of theirs speaks volumes, in my opinion. I also note that in the harassing rants and threats that we received a few weeks ago anonymously claiming to be former LPBW producer Chris Cardamone, they mentioned "you think you own it - but you don't!" -- Now the Roloffs are issuing subpoenas to the "owners" of the site where Spiritswander is hosted? Hmm.. By the way, if you're wondering, we never did receive any follow-up to our item about the anonymous messages we received claiming to be Chris Cardamone - no email confirming that they were his sentiments or anything from him or anyone in the Roloff camp requesting an interview - so it is to be assumed - as we initially stated -- that those threatening messages were from someone impersonating the producer.

It's interesting to see just what lengths the Roloffs have their lawyers our resorting to (by in our opinion, using a case that is clearly unrelated) when we had agreed and were willing and waiting to do an interview with Amy Roloff -- which I assume would have been done by phone. As we've stated in previous items - representatives for the Amy Roloff Charity Foundation did propose an agreement which we accepted. It included an interview with Amy Roloff about all topics if we would promote the Amy Roloff Charity Cruise on Oasis of the Seas. We agreed and did what we promised - we fulfilled our agreements. We were simply waiting for word on a good time to interview Amy. Then ARCF representatives apologized and said we could take down our promotional banners that they had sent us. So they had arranged an interview between us with Amy and she never fulfilled the promises that the Amy Roloff Charity Foundation made. So yes, despite Matt Roloff's constant claims that Roloffs don't duck interviews or "tough" questions, it is a clear example of the Roloffs doing exactly that. However, the point here is that would have been the direct contact that is apparently so important to the Roloffs -- yet instead of that approach, they go through lawyers, spending thousands of dollars on methods to obtain the same information that a more upfront approach would have reached.

The other part of this that really strikes me, is...yes, the hypocrisy. Not too long ago, Amy Roloff was unleashing rants where she was criticizing fellow reality TV celebritity -- Kim Kardashian -- One of Amy's criticisims was that the Kardashians were wasting thousands and thousands of dollars and just think of how that money could be better spent? Think of how that money could have been used to help people less fortunate? Well, that's kind of what I find myself thinking about the Roloffs. Spending thousands of dollars towards lawyer fees, encouraging others to do the same, tying up tax payer dollars -- is this a productive use of money, time and energy for people who have criticized other celebrities by saying "think of how the money could be used to help others"?

Television Ratings For "Holiday Surprise" - Little People, Big World Roloff Ratings

2011-12-13T13:43:00.003-07:00

For those who are curious about these things, the ratings for the December 11th Little People, Big World special, the 2nd special so far featuring the Roloff family came in at a 1.5 rating.

Here are some numbers to help you put it into perspective.

During the glory days for TLC ratings when LPBW was the lead-in for Jon and Kate Plus 8 on Monday nights, the Roloffs often drew over a 2.0 for regular episodes. The highest rated LPBW episode ever was the episode in Season 3 centering around Matt Roloff's DUII trial. That registered around the 3.3 mark.

The episode focusing on Mike Detjen's death received a 2.4

The ratings had begun to decline in Season 4 and saw them drop even further in Season 5. Many episodes came in around the 1.3 mark. Shortly after that, (after Matt Roloff had announced in TV interviews that the show would continue for at least 2 more years), that was when TLC made the decision to cancel the series. Some episodes of Season 5b came in around 1.1 and one episode failed to reach the 1.0 mark. The 1.3 average rating continued for most of Season 6, with the big exception being the final episodes billed at the "Series Finale". The finale got a rating of 2.2.

The first LPBW "special" since the cancellation that aired in Oct 2011 received a 2.0 rating.

Now this most recent special, the 2nd special so far -- received a rating of 1.5.

So a drop of 0.5 since the first special, but still slightly above the 1.3 average the show was receiving when it was determined that the show would be cancelled.

Little People, Big World / Roloff Family Special December 11th - "Holiday Surprise"

2011-12-11T22:44:00.007-07:00

Frequent poster Rap541, generously agreed to recap the "Holiday Surprise" episode featuring the Roloff Family on Little People, Big World which aired on TLC Dec 11, 2011

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Written By Rap541 -- all opinions expressed belong to Rap541 --

Interesting moment in the rerun - Amy openly acknowledges Matt's "I'm gonna die so do as I want!" attitude and again, despite Matt's whining on the topic, divorce was openly discussed.

Also Jeremy's open lies about how he was driving the mule to the mail box and then reading it for the camera and then telling mommy for the cameras and his complete lack of enthusiasm during it is especially hilarious.

And Matt openly dissing Jeremy was hilarious. "Where's my maammma! Where's my maaammma!" indeed.

Btw, I dunno about anyone else but this new episode was on LATE. 10pm here. Kinda late for family time.

Oh Matt relating to Matt Damon and equating his farm with a zoo is *hilarious*. Importing animals that other people take care of for a month is exactly like owning a zoo, Matt. It really is and you're *just* as cool as Matt Damon and just *like* him. I also note that Matt makes these commercials all about himself.

The rehanging of the sacred tire swing still makes me laugh. And btw, are the twin's beds really just mattresses and springs directly on the floor?

Did I mention how late this is on? Because really, I understand The Walking Dead on AMC being on so late because you know, the zombies, the cursing, the sex, the constant shooting of little girls in the head.... but isn't this a family show?

Oh an actual commercial for the special - Matt just about tearing up because Amy will miss his birthday. Aw, poor baby, Amy has to work. At last check you missed Mother's Day and the twin's birthday because you desperately needed a vacation in Hawaii. As I recall, you're also the douche who went to Switzerland with Jeremy because spending time with the family wasn't a "good use" of your time. Poor poor Matt... Why do I have a feeling I have latched on to the theme of the show? That this is all about Matt needing attention.

Oh, and I again note how Jeremy's "Thank you Jesus!" on the van was very very carefully not shown.

Anyway on to the new special.

Punkins and scarecrows and Matt on equipment acting like he‘s doing something. Matt is giving himself a new sign for the farm as his birthday present. He gyrates and laughs in a completely fake way over how awesome it is. Its a tad over the top. Amy seems bored. Wasn’t the sign replaced because of the vandalism?

The credits are the same.

Matt conversates with the dog. He then waxes philosophically on the haybale and there's a montage of photos as Matt goes on about how he's getting old and wants to go back in time. He pets the dog he plans to have shot and there’s a deep photogenic moment. Basically Matt is acting like a dramatic fourteen year old girl

Amy plots with the kids for Matt's birthday. Amy voices over about the Birthday Bash as though its actually a surprise and not something Matt announced in April of this year. They plan a flash mob. Which is kinda the opposite of a flash mob. Insert more montages of the farm. Matt and Sven argue over the color of the ark. Matt wants actual animals to hang around the ark, and has a goat habitrail built. In fairness, I kinda like the goat habit rail.

Meanwhile the family has a family meal and none of the kids care that Jeremy is gone. Amy openly prays. Matt pontificates and fake shouts "I MADE IT" and the kids don't react much, possibly because Matt is putting on a show for the cameras. Matt then challenges all the kids to arm wrestle to prove how young he is. Its clearly a forced moment and Zach wrestles him and Matt brags about beating Zach, the most unlikely to care. Amy then wrestles Matt since "AMY IS COMPETATIVE". We break for a commercial since this fake moment for the camera is a nice stopping point.

Matt in a commercial tries to insist he gives a damn about the animals on the farm. Yeah, lets see, you sold the alpacas for a volleyball court, your son and his buddy was caught throwing the family cat, on at least one occasion you had a tortoise escape the farm, and your pet chickens were "slaughtered by coyotes". Oh, and you went on about Camerino needing to put down one of the ducks. Try again.

Back to Matt and Amy hamming it up for the cameras. Amy wins. Matt whinges how he is fifty. Its sorta cute but I am sensing a theme. Wait, no, I am being hit with a two by four engraved with the theme. Matt travels back in time to the building of the goat thingie and he gives an extensive voiceover on how he's physically falling apart with his bum knee and how at fifty, he's probably on the downside of life and will perhaps soon die. Gosh I sure hope he makes it long enough to see the cool birthday surprise the family has planned and that he has no idea about.

Oh look. A goat in the house. That doesn't feel contrived at all, a random goat in the house right in front of the cameras. Zach tries riding it and gets it out of the house, Apparently there's cows now as well, and the goat isn't put in a pen or anything.

Matt gives the "you work for me" speech to the folks and Caryn openly notes that the Birthday Bash is on the schedule despite the whole surprise thing being presented. Matt notes how Jeremy isn't there and things just aren't the same since Jeremy did so much but was also super easily replaced. Zach and Tori chit chat about the tours. Matt notes how Zach is now a man and into sex and probably nailing Tori and Matt is super relieved that his dwarf son is nailing someone. Ok, to be fair, he didn’t *say* that, it was just obvious.

　

Oh look Jeremy on Skype. We all pretend that there's no contract and we also pretend there's actual doubt that Jeremy will return home for the birthday bash. Matt does an ostentatious tour for the cameras. The people movers seem bigger. Amy does a tour. Personally I think the Ark looks like crap sitting in the middle of the field with nothing around it. Matt then goes on how he's in constant pain because of his dwarfism and his age and there's ominous music as once again we are reminded how fragile Matt is. Then Matt haybales how its a miracle he's still alive because he just pushed himself so hard, its a miracle! He does indeed comment to the dog how the dog is old and it is of course a Poignant Moment.

Funny how self indulgement and all about Matt this whole thing is.

Zach goes on about how the flash mob was trained to flash mob. Molly looks kinda like one of the Duggar girls actually. Oh look the new sign and its ONE DAY to Matt's birthday. Matt has decided to dress up like Noah since the Ark is "complete". He then takes the costume to the Ark and reveals himself to the people mover and hits one of the goats with his shepherds hook. Much like his family, the animals ignore his endless prattling and shouting. Molly and Jake are amused.

Amy finally reveals the horror - she has to do a speaking engagement on Matt's birthday. She can't cancel. Matt haybales how this is one of the bigger events of his life and its a "tough nut to swallow". Wow. I mean, WOW. Now I know its not unusual for Matt to be a self involved ass, but really. I'm reminded yet again of the desperate need he had to go on vacation to Hawaii and skip his kid’s birthday. I’m also reminded of his charming attitude about Amy having to miss the BVI trip - ever notice that Matt only cares about what Matt wants?

Now we see Amy making something. She haybales how she needed to do something special for Matt so she made him a cake. She puts a card in the fridge. Jeremy wanders in and Amy pretends its a surprise. He seems bored. Amy haybales how special it is and how sad she is but how it's life. Jeremy wanders out to the punkin field and Matt acts surprised that Jeremy is there despite again, the obvious reality that he was required to show up. Now Matt shows us pictures of himself and haybales how awful his pain filled childhood was and how he prayed to God to be healed and it never ever happened. But Matt was resilient and never dwells on the endless torture of his pain filled childhood in the hospitals and we've never ever heard Matt go on about this before. Except you know, the many times we have heard this exact same story of Matt's horror filled childhood that he's never ever let affect him.

Amy runs off to work and of course Matt is sad because its all about Matt. We leave on a poignant shot of Matt sitting sadly. Poor. poor Matt.... Hey, everyone remember Matt missing his kids graduation walk and snotting off proudly how he had no regrets? Funny how it hurts when it's Matt who isn't getting the attention

Matt continues to praise himself in the commercials for the Matt Damon movie. Yay Matt! You explain once again how this movie by Matt Damon is all about you!

Oh now its the DAY of Matt's birthday! Pop and Honey tell stories and we get more Matt home movies of Matt as a child. Jeremy tosses Jake onto the zip line and has Jake come down as an event. I think this is the first time we've seen the zip line used since it was installed. Matt is paraded around and the flash mob appears and its all about Matt being held up as the awesome guy he thinks he is. Molly thinks the flash mob was cool. Matt notes how awesome it is that people adore him. He notes how he's never done much for his birthday (except those cruises that were always scheduled during pumpkin season). Matt gives a speech to the crowd and it just goes on and on how Matt is this really rare sort of dwarf but just managed to be so awesome. Then he says his parents are awesome and he notes how resilent he is and this tongue bath just goes on and on. Matt notes how surprised he is. Matt haybales how he doesn't know why he's so awesome and now that he's fifty, he might die tomorrow but he's still gonna be awesome.

Then he gets on the zipline and we have a commercial break.

This All American Muslim show looks fun.

Now we continue with Matt ziplining. Matt notes how he was suddenly deafened from the joy of how awesome he is and how he's fantastic and this birthday will never be topped. A side note - the full moon shots continue to be hilarious because every night was the full moon. Did anyone else catch that? Matt notes how awesome it is but that Amy isn't there and therefore its bittersweet and then he finds Amy's cake in a carefully orchestrated moment. He opens the card, and Amy *magically* shows up in the nick of time to show up in time for cake and perhaps lovemaking. Matt then makes it all about Matt again. Matt haybales how he's learned, from having everyone kiss his butt for the weekend, that life after fifty is swell as long as its all about him and what he wants.

Also wow, this was dull.

2nd Little People, Big World Roloff Special Preview -- December 11th, 2011

2011-12-11T09:35:00.005-07:00

The 2nd Roloff/Little People, Big World special will air tonight on TLC.

Here is the preview from TLC:

Little People Big World: Holiday Surprise: " As Matt is about to turn 50 he worries that his best days are behind him. But a series of family surprises on his birthday prove to him that the best in life is yet to come."

Rap541 has offered to give a brief preview and will recap the episode after the show.

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Written by Rap541

Is Matt's birthday really a *holiday* now? Is "Roloff Punkin Season" now on Oregon school calenders? Do we really want to watch an hour of Matt kvetching how he's becoming an old goat who will soon be in a wheelchair and how his little body is just breaking down? Oh wait - we've got at least two episodes per season if not more of that already, including one that shows Matt in late 2009 bravely telling the family he was told he needed spinal surgery in six months... surgery that never happened! Despite his desperate need.

Ok seriously - who wants to bet we get a lot of Matt complaining and the series of surprises are well orchestrated events for the camera like the "birthday bash" that he announced in April, and like Jeremy returning home for the birthday bash which will be claimed as a surprise even though Matt is fully aware of contractual obligations requiring it. Then, because the holiday just passed, we'll have a faux Thanksgiving that won't mention that it didn't actually happen on Thanksgiving since the Roloffs were mostly in BVIs and Jeremy was at friends... but we'll see that myth of togetherness I am sure.

The "Chris Cardamone" (Former Little People, Big World Producer) And Spiritswander Roloff Interview Saga

2011-12-02T14:55:00.036-07:00

***DISCLAIMER*** -- The following comments that are located below in blue font were submitted anonymously and should be assumed not to be the person they are claiming to be as anyone can submit an anonymous comment claiming to be whomever they want

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We have always tried to be upfront with our readers who have made us the foremost independent source for Roloff news and information online, so we've decided to let you know about a couple of things that have been going on 'behind the scenes'.

First, before we start and move onto the issue at hand, the goal here at Spiritswander hasn't changed in the several years that this site has existed. That goal has always been to report the real truth about the Roloffs and the Little People, Big World show as accurately as possible. If someone read just our site, we wanted people to have all the necessary information available on the various subjects so people can form their own opinions. We also wanted serve a niche -- provide an alternative for people interested in the Roloffs to the mainstream coverage that the Roloffs receive. The majority of the mainstream attention the Roloffs get is severely lacking for people who follow them with any kind of interest. Sometimes media outlets barely know the most basic details about the Roloffs and thus, are completely unequipped to question or follow up on anything the Roloffs say. We wanted the Spiritswander reader to be informed of the real issues.

We also abhor the dynamic that has always existed around the Roloffs -- that is the snobby insiders that snicker at the outsiders and saying one thing publicly when you know the person saying it doesn't even believe what they are saying themselves. We wanted to make everyone informed of the real story.

That has been our goal -- to report the truth about the Roloffs and LPBW. As one of regular readers put it recently - to pull the curtain back and allow people to see the Roloffs for what they are -- whatever that is -- rather than just an image.

It's hard for some people to believe in this day and age, but those are our only goals. We don't seek money - we have never made even 10 cents on this site. We are not using this as a springboard to a career. We aren't looking to be famous ourselves or for personal attention. The goal is to report accurate, truthful and interesting information about the Roloffs that people might not have the opportunity to hear elsewhere.

So with that said, it's time to move onto the issue.

It began with our article about Chris Cardamone -- the former Producer of LPBW and very close and personal Roloff family friend. We highlighted his public discussion with various people that was held on a fake "Jacob Roloff" Facebook page -- the comments from Chris came from the Facebook account that is widely known to belong to the real Chris Cardamone.

http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2011/11/interesting-discussion-with-little.html

Now this is where the story picks up.

After that article, we began receiving anonymous comments submitted as comments to the Spiritswander blog. The comments are from a person claiming to be Chris Cardamone, challenging us to call a phone number and daring us to post his phone number publicly so any fan or follower of the Roloffs can call him up and chat. As we said in the disclaimer at the top -- one should only assume that this isn't the real Chris Cardamone -- as anyone can submit a comment and claim to be so and so.

It also should be noted that we have in the past received very hostile and nasty anonymous comments directed towards us. Several months ago - we did receive an anonymous message which simply said "you're going to die!" -- we could take it very seriously as Matt has stated the Roloffs do - Matt has said he gets the police and the FBI involved when things like this are said about the Roloff family -- however, with regards to these types of comments directed towards us - we tend to usually dismiss them as tough talking pranks that are ultimately harmless but we may have to reassess that approach.

Any reasonable person can understand why we would not call random phone numbers and why we wouldn't post the phone number publicly -- but in case that needs clarification - here it is -- obviously that is invading the privacy of the individual whom the number belongs and it would be encouraging harassment of a potentially innocent party. The request is so absurd, that we can only assume that it is only some bored kid, some pro-Roloff fan that wants to prank our site by claiming to be the producer.

So with no further delay, here are the comments we received. It's important to note, that we received these anonymously as blog comments and not direct emails. As you can see, they get increasingly hostile and then turn rather threatening -- we can only imagine what the Roloff camp would say if they received comments that threaten that someone was going to 'hunt you down' and "I will find you".

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post:

This is Chris Cardamone...thanks everyone for assassinating my character on this blog. If you really want to have a conversation with me, rather than your conjecture, call 3xx-xx5-x9x3. It's my cell. Man up and let's go. Com'on Spirits, Rap, and anyone else call me. I got all your answers.

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post

Come on Spirits 3xx-xx5-x9x3...we really should talk. We have tons to talk about. Thanks for the front page facebook grabs. 3xx-xx5-x9x3

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post

PLEASE CALL ME if you have the guts...3xx-xx5-x9x3...3xx-xx5-x9x3. Come on guys lets settle this. Come on Spirits I am giving you the interview you have always wanted.

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post:

This is Chris Cardamone again. (I love this freaks you out cause you are a coward.) PLEASE REPOST THIS ON YOUR SITE, PLEASE!!!!

You people are sick bias people. Let me prognosticate...Chris is touting the Roloff line. (SO HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL) I love that comment please continue to post it.

If Spirits or anyone of you on this blog had any integrity you would call me. Here is my cell number 3xx-xx5-x9x3 which I tried to post on this UNBIASED just UPDATE-CENTRIC Roloff blog last week. Sadly Spirits didn't post it (Wow strange can Spirits?) That is so strange Spirits right? What is your reason? So funny...you call me out, have tons of people judge me, and then don't call to confirm your assertions or claims unlike really journalists. Am I wrong? Do you know what AP is? Yeah Spirits that sounds like really great online journalism. But then again you have never dealt with professional news sources so keep making up what you think is factual to post on online news blogs.

Oh that's right - remember you are the truthful source of everything Roloff, haha. Your credibility is on the floor. There is a reason why you hide. Don't worry I'll find you, and yes PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE post that I will find you. I can't wait for you to promote yourself "Former Producer Hunting Spiritswander", cause really that is what you are all about right, you! Yes you are a joke. It only helps me.

Spirits why didn't you post on this VERY OPEN "unbiased" BLOG when I posted my cell number for you to call me? I mean really you are the foremost expert and blog on the Roloff's life so why are you so afraid to call me?

There's in an open invitation to anyone to call and talk to me about the claims about me and the Roloffs posted on your site.

I mean really Spirits you are the most passive aggressive biased site hiding behind REAL online journalism. You're a joke. Come one let's chat what are you afraid of? Let's go just you and me? Or you don't like challenges unless you control the conversation right? The same thing you claim the Roloffs do. What a hypocrite. You do exactly what you claim the Roloffs do. Just seeing the future here Spirits you don't have the courage to post this. And yes I am taking a screen cap to share. Anytime you and your twisted followers wanna go let's do it I am here and you have my info. If you believe what you say, as the scope of your blog clearly showcases, you own it. But guess what you don't! SPIRITS I REALLY CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO POST THIS :)

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As we've said -- several times in this post -- it would be absurd and naive to believe that this is really Chris Cardamone and that these are his sentiments. If he was daring us to post his phone number so everyone interested in the Roloffs can call him and chat about the Roloffs -- he could have done that in the Facebook thread or make his phone number visible on his Facebook. The real Chris Cardamone has not done any of those things.

Anyone that seriously wanted to get in touch with us -- as many, many people have done over the years - can do so via our email spiritswander@gmail.com. The Roloffs and their friends are aware of our offer.

We do actually respect the Roloffs and their friends right to privacy and their right not to be harassed. Let me expand -- it's no secret the Roloffs detest our site. Matt has referred to our site as "the hate blog". In the Facebook discussion, Chris Cardamone made his negative feelings towards our site known as well. It's unfortunate, but the Roloffs and their friends are entitled to have their opinions of our site. However, knowing how they feel -- we see no reason to harass them with messages or emails. They don't like us. Matt considers us 'hateful'. Matt has made it known that is his opinion. Thus we aren't going to email or message them since they've made their feelings known. If someone makes it known that they don't like you -- and you have extended an invitation to them -- yet they ignore that invitation -- if you begin calling, emailing, messaging, etc, said party, you could be considered to be harassing them. We have no intention of doing that. Again, if any of the people mentioned genuinely want to have a productive and civil interview - they are welcome to initiate that process via our spiritswander@gmail.com email.

So we are to assume that this is just a prank from someone who is impersonating Mr. Cardamone. Again, we are proceeding as this is just a prank -- because it is too ridiculous to believe that a legitimate television producer would post his phone number (or dare us to post this phone number) so anyone in the world can call him up and chat about his close personal friends and subjects that he cannot discuss because of Non Disclosure agreements. Honestly, who submits their phone number to a website with a 'frothing at the mouth' tone and the'Come on, Post it! I dare you!' sentiments?

However...on the remote chance that we are wrong about our assumption regarding these messages we wanted to respond and let everyone know where we stand and why.

First, for the record, we have never asked Chris Cardamone for an interview for a few different reasons. We have made invitations to several Roloffs - Matt, Amy (whom we had agreed to an interview through her representatives and then Amy broke their promises and backed out), Jeremy, Zach and Jacob Mueller. I personally think that people tire of hearing friends speak for the Roloffs -- ie. explain/defend what Jeremy feels about this and that issue and why Jeremy did this or that -- instead of Jeremy speaking for himself.

Second, it is also understood, as Chris mentioned in the Facebook discussion -- he is bound by non disclosure agreements and would be severely limited. We don't have unrealistic expectations regarding what producers and crew members would be allowed to say about their show.

We feel a certain responsibility to our readers. A Spiritswander interview is not a fluff interview. It's not an interview orchestrated by the subject to serve a public image. It would need to be a wide ranging interview and where all topics are fair game to be asked and discussed -- much like in our interview with Dan Meichtry years ago. So if Chris Cardamone is unable or unwilling to fulfill that in our interview, there probably isn't much point in pursuing the matter.

However, having said that -- one thing that we have always tried to do and is important to us is to be fair to the people that are discussed on our site. That is why the moment Jeremy was drawing so much attention on our site in comments -- we extended the chance for Jeremy to have his say whenever he wanted. He obviously never took us up on that. The same goes for the rest of the Roloffs and Mueller. Years ago, Jeremy and Zach's close friend on the show, Dan Meichtry -- fans who had seen Dan make Myspace insults toward fans and had seen some of his comments that were associated with Jeremy's comments that appeared in the "Big Bigot In the Land of The Little People" artricle - would refer to Dan as Jeremy's mean-spirited and bigoted friend. Because he was being discussed, we reached out to him and allowed him the opportunity to have his say by asking about all the issues people discuss. That's all we can do -- ask the questions and it is up to the person themselves how they answer. In Dan's case, I think the overwhelming response was that he impressed a lot of people with his maturity and his level of personal accountability he took as well as his honesty.

Our point is that Chris Cardamone was discussed on Spiritswander -- through the Facebook item -- and yes, I do feel that if Chris wants to respond to what is being said about him, he should have that chance. Although again, all we have done-- if Chris truly feels we were "assassinating" his character -- was draw attention to the public Facebook discussion from the account known to belong to Chris -- he was not restricted in what he wanted to say there.

And also keeping our readers in mind -- if he was willing to be open -- it does have the potential to be an interesting read for Roloff fans. If you're not familiar with Chris Cardamone, he has been one of the key and crucial producers for Little People, Big World in the last several years. There are many, many people with producing credits on LPBW, but Chris was one who was on the scene with the Roloffs. Chris is a very, very close personal friend of the Roloffs. According to what friends have told us -- Chris interacts with the Roloffs - either in person, on the phone or online with members of the Roloff family almost every day. To give you an idea - some have even described Chris as sort of "the new Mike Detjen" to Jacob and Jeremy Roloff (minus the focus on soccer)- but that kind of mentor figure. Chris is obviously a person who has come to genuinely care about Roloff family.

So if, by the off chance, that these messages were actually Chris Cardamone and represent his sentiments - Chris is welcome to email at spiritswander@gmail.com through a verifiable email -- perhaps his HumanNotHollywood (his production company) email and we could pursue an interview and whether there is anything to discuss. However we are not really expecting anything since it is too hard to believe that this isn't a prank and it is just some person that is submitting anonymous comments claiming to be Chris Cardamone.

***DISCLAIMER*** -- The comments that are located in the above item in blue font were submitted anonymously and should be assumed not to be the person they are claiming to be as anyone can submit an anonymous comment claiming to be whomever they want.

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Amy Roloff To Speak About Bias In Language: December 5th

2011-11-24T23:02:00.008-07:00

On Monday Dec. 5, Amy Roloff will speak at an event about bias in language and discrimination. It is hosted by Alpha Sigma Phi, the Clark College chapter of Phi Theta Kappa : "History and Bias Encoded in Language."

http://blog.oregonlive.com/my-vancouver/2011/11/listen_can_you_recognize_bias.html

The article goes onto say that during the event "members of Alpha Sigma Phi will narrate readings related to biases including appearance, race, disability, gender, sexual orientation, and education."

This is always a hot button topic for people who are aware of what the Roloffs support in their real lives. Regulars readers of our site are well aware of the issue.

Amy and Matt Roloff sell themselves as diversity speakers. They not only speak about issues pertaining to discrimination towards people with dwarfism, but the broader topic of discrimination against all minority groups and people with differences. As Amy described last Spring during a live Internet "Coffee Chat" - she has given speeches that she titled Being an individual tree among the forest: How to accept your difference and the differences of others".

It's a noble cause of course, so why does it always cause some controversy? It's because when people learn the truth about the Roloffs real actions and words and what they affiliate with -- many people feel that they take a noble cause - speaking about equality and turn it into nothing but a money making venture for themselves because they don't practice what they preach. In fact, I think it is fair to say that many people feel that the Roloffs themselves have bigoted attitudes towards some of the groups that they get paid to speak for -- primarily, the issue of sexual orientation and gay people.

You can find more details about all of these things by searching our archives, but it of course all started when Jeremy Roloff was found to be using numerous racial and gay slurs with his friends. To this day, the Roloffs have never actually apologized. Furthermore, they have vilified those that have said Jeremy was wrong for using those hurtful words and those that say they were disappointed by Matt and Amy's reaction to it.

While never specifically discussing it -- they have vaguely referenced it. In an interview once, Amy essentially expressed that it made her sad that Jeremy and his friends now needed to watch what they say and write because people would judge and criticize their use of slurs towards other groups -- and in Amy and the Roloffs mind - "blow it way out of proportion".

Even as recently as last month, Little People, Big World producer and very close Roloff family friend -- Chris Cardamone engaged in a Facebook discussion with fans who expressed their displeasure at Jeremy's slurs. After people pointed out that Jeremy has never apologized, Chris requested to know how those that were upset were personally hurt by Jeremy's use of the "N word" and "f*ggot" among others. This is sort of the standard Roloff and Roloff friend defense and it causes people to get up in arms when the Roloffs than present themselves as advocates for said Diversity Groups and collect a paycheck to speak about discrimination and how words are hurtful.

Through the years, Matt would spar through his online posts with those that have expressed their displeasure over the issue. Matt has referred to people that were either upset or expressed their disappointment or their thoughts that it makes the Roloffs hypocrites for teaching that midget is hurtful while Roloffs were using words such as the "N word", "beaner place called Mexico, and "f*ggot" and d*ke". Matt has referred to people who share those opinions as "haters" and "negative nellies".

Then aside from the Roloffs own use of slurs without apology, there is the whole issue of what the Roloffs really support. As religious conservatives, the Roloffs have supported multiple groups that are known for discriminating against minority groups - specifically gay people. When Amy first constructed her website, she infamously linked the controversial "Focus On The Family" -- which I think it is fair to say, they are perhaps most known for their anti-gay agenda and the millions of dollars they have spent to oppose gay rights in the gay marriage debate.

Then there is the Roloffs own religious associations. Years ago Roloffs and their friends attended a speech hosted by their local church - the speaker is a controversial "Ex-gay" -- Sy Rogers -- who speaks about how gay people must "pray the gay away". Then as the years have went by, the Roloffs and specifically Jeremy -- although the entire Roloff Family have attended this church -- have grown especially fond of the Solid Rock church in Portland, Oregon and Jeremy in particular is an enthusiastic supporter of the lead pastor - John Mark Comer. This church and John Mark Comer also preach and teach that gay people can and should (if they wish to not burn in Hell for eternity) pray to God to be cured of their "gay-ness".

In this video, this issue begins at the 2:40 mark in this video and is part of the "Loveology" series that Solid Rock holds every year. This past year, Molly Roloff attended the Loveology event with Jeremy. The entire Roloff family -- Matt and Amy included have attended Solid Rock also and Matt did proudly post that Jeremy volunteered as an usher at Solid Rock and loved it, while also posting about Jeremy and Molly attending John Mark Comer's Loveology event.

As we reported long ago, it is a fact that the Solid Rock church and John Mark's teachings are an essential part of Jeremy's life. He recommends them to friends and reportedly spends hours listening to the podcasts. Jeremy's girlfriend Audrey -- is also an enthusiastic "Solid Rock" supporter -- and lists John Mark Comer as one of her heroes and inspirations.

Of course - Jeremy and all of the Roloffs are completely entitled to hold whatever religious or social beliefs that they choose. However, when it's combined with the whole fact that they present themselves as Diversity Speakers and Advocates against discrimination for people with differences -- that then is what causes several people to see the Roloffs as phony and not "walking the walk" as diversity speakers.

Amy Roloff was once confronted about this issue during a live internet chat by someone who identified themselves as gay and felt it was hypocritical. Amy did not give a clear cut answer. She went back and forth and said maybe just because you attend a church, it doesn't necessarily mean you believe or agree with all the messages that the Church teaches. When this issue was raised again by a disgruntled fan on her Facebook Fan Page, Amy was a bit more vocal in her response -- saying that the Roloffs have a right to have their opinions on said issues.

Of course the Roloffs do have a right to hold whatever opinions they have on those issues -- it's just many feel that it should either disqualify them or at least demeans their effectiveness as legitimate Diversity Speakers and many people do feel it is highly hypocritical and have made the point that they wonder how the Roloffs would feel about attending a Keynote Speech from a Diversity Speaker and an equality rights activist -- who in their own personal life actually supports movements that would work against rights of people with dwarfism or if it became known that the diversity speaker supported organizations that taught that people with dwarfism must pray to get taller in order to be accepted?

Matt Roloff's "Dirt Deal" With Intel Erupts In Controversy?

2011-11-24T18:31:00.008-07:00

For most of 2011 Matt Roloff has been very vocal online about his "dirt deal". He began by hinting about his involvement in a huge deal with Intel. Eventually he revealed what it was. Matt and business partners purchased some swampy land and essentially are used as a dumping ground for Intel.

Intel is building a new plant. Therefore, they need a place to dump all the dirt they are digging up. Matt gets paid by Intel for allowing them to dump huge amounts of dirt onto his property. Via his Facebook Fan Page, Matt has posted several pictures of himself and his workers moving around dirt. He posted extensively about what a big project it was. During Amy's coffee chat she held during the spring, she would reference how involved Matt was with the "dirt site". Matt posted about how it was supposed to have ended, but Intel loved his site so much, that the trucks were still rolling in to dump onto his property.

Now there is an article that appeared in the Oregonian documenting the controversy that the "dirt deal" and sites like Matt's are causing. Local residents are complaining. Although Matt is not mentioned by name (or any other of the contractors that are being paid by Intel to accept dirt), it does appear to describe the same thing Matt has been doing for Intel. The Oregonian's article by Dana Tims does use a perhaps clever caption by showing one of the neighbors that is upset and describing him in the picture as being "dwarfed by huge amounts of fill excavated from Intel..."

You can read the full article here:

http://www.oregonlive.com/hillsboro/index.ssf/2011/11/intel_excavation_erupts_in_mud.html

Here are just a few snippets of the article:

By Dana Tims, The Oregonian

The massive excavation of Intel's new D1X plant is nearing completion, but coping with hundreds of thousands of yards of material scooped and dumped around Washington County remains, both politically and aesthetically, a muddy mess.

Frantic attempts to meet the chip maker's tight construction deadlines overwhelmed the county's permitting process for dealing with excavated materials. As a result, some soils were improperly placed in wetlands, prompting the county for the first time in its history to revoke a fill permit.

Other Intel fill sites appear to contain extensive amounts of construction fabric, large rocks and other materials not allowed under county fill standards.

Some county farmers are griping that a fast-tracked permitting process resulted in huge "dirt dumps" smothering prime agricultural sites.

Enlarging the footprint at Intel's Ronler Acres campus near Hillsboro Stadium, however, also meant that 780,000 cubic yards of soil -- enough to fill 30,000 dump trucks -- needed to be hauled elsewhere. From an economic standpoint, shorter hauls mean valuable savings in trucking costs and quicker turnaround times for the next trip.

When the digging began in earnest, huge quantities of earth rapidly started filling Washington County farmland. The most visible site is adjacent to land that Bob Vanderzanden, a long-time Washington County Farm Bureau member, has farmed for decades.

Vanderzanden watched in stunned silence in March as truckload after truckload rolled west along U.S. 26 before turning onto Northwest Victory Lane to dump as much as 150,000 cubic yards of excavated spoils. The property owner's permit indicated that he needed the material to "enhance agricultural production capability."

Since then, a portion of the soil facing the land Vanderzanden leases to grow red clover has sloughed southward, partially blocking a drainage ditch. An open ditch is one of the permit's conditions of approval.

"This is the worst possible case of cut and fill you could possibly think of," Vanderzanden said, pointing toward rolling earthen mounds that are 15 feet in height or taller. "To call it an agricultural fill is crazy in my opinion."

Susan Benyowitz, an owner of the land Vanderzanden leases, has filed two complaints with the county. She claims that improper drainage caused by the blocked ditch is resulting in extensive pooling on her property.

"We're talking about just a massive, massive amount of dirt," she said."

Intel had nothing to do with selecting fill sites, said Bill McKenzie, the company's communications manager. That was left to a subcontractor responsible for excavation and the "off haul" process of delivering materials to fill sites permitted by Washington County.

County officials acknowledge that some things went wrong, in large part because they were swamped by having to find suitable places to dispose of the spoils quickly.

"It's a challenge," said Stephen Roberts, a spokesman. "But part of that challenge is weighing what someone can do on their property against protecting public interests. If we're all lucky, there will be another Intel project at some point and we can be better prepared for the next round. That's our goal."

Yet county planners are adamant that Intel fill permits were not "fast-tracked."

"We don't have an option like that available to us," said Nadine Smith Cook, principal county planner. "We certainly recognized that timing was involved that made them our first priority, but there was no other disconnect between these permits and any others we might have received."

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Read the full article: http://www.oregonlive.com/hillsboro/index.ssf/2011/11/intel_excavation_erupts_in_mud.html

Interesting Discussion with Little People, Big World Producer Chris Cardamone Re: Controversial Roloff Issues

2011-11-18T08:07:00.019-07:00

There was an interesting discussion online a few weeks ago that we thought we would pass along for those who might be interested.

It is quite lengthy, however, it involves Chris Cardamone -- who was the main on-site producer of Little People, Big World for the past couple of years. Chris is the producer whose close relationship (as even he describes himself as "a close friend) with the Roloffs raised questions about professionalism and whether it's right and professional for a producer of a reality or show that is supposed to be in any way documentary style - to become such close personal friends with stars of the show and how that close personal relationship affects the material and the overall quality of the production.

Anyhow -- this all started on a fake Jacob Roloff Facebook/Twitter account. For the record, We have always been accurate about reporting or confirming the real or fake Roloff online accounts on various Roloff social networking accounts. Basically, the rule to go by is that if the Roloff kids -- any of Jeremy, Zach, Molly or Jacob are sharing pictures, interacting/talking/being nice to or adding or replying to fans on social networking sites -- then they are fakes because the real people do not associate with fans in any way and the truth of the matter is that they're known to mock fans with their friends privately. Jeremy did have a public fan page about a year ago - although it wasn't very well known and we didn't even bother to pass it along because his lack of involvement. It became a bit of a joke for people that were aware of it. At one point his two most recent posts were a standard "Happy Thanksgiving" followed by his return when he sent off a "Merry Christmas" message. I think most wondered "What's the point"? Eventually people started to express that they were disgruntled and the page was deleted. Other than that -- only Matt and Amy have fan pages where they interact with fans.

Contrary to the belief of some, there are close friends of the Roloffs who do not think we are evil and actually have some use for truthful facts. As a result, it is quite easy for us to confirm the real or fake accounts with people who interact with the Roloffs on an almost daily basis.

So this all started when the real Jacob Roloff on Facebook, whose display name is actually "Jacob George Roloff" (stating this to avoid confusion below) posted on the fake's account calling it fake and saying that his impostor copies his real status posts and pictures on the fake twitter account. While pretty much everyone in the entire conversation agreed to varying degrees that it is wrong for an impostor to, well impostor and steal posts and pictures, some people did, through some sarcasm, try to make the point to the real Jacob that he and his siblings should have some sense of appreciation for the fans and perhaps it wouldn't be the end of the world if the real Roloffs (Matt and Amy's Facebook Fan Pages are known, this refers to Jeremy, Zach and Molly) interacted with the fans from time to time and that would essentially put the fakes out of business. Others argued the point that the impostor doesn't post personal phone numbers, etc, but rather random updates and pictures of outdoor scenery, and that the impostors are actually much more polite to fans than the real people they impostor (which actually is a truthful statement although probably somewhat irrelevant to the whole debate about it not being ethical).

People posting after the real Jacob George Roloff posted publicly, prompted Chris Cardamone to begin posting.

That then led to people stating that they suspected one of the reasons why Chris was so concerned about the impostor was because if the impostor had access to Jacob's real profile, some felt Chris was concerned that Jacob would follow the example of Jeremy and offensive posts would eventually be publicized.

That sort of led to Chris Cardamone commenting and dismissing the things people were mentioning about Jeremy and Mueller among others. Chris then went back and forth with people talking about several issues over the years - most of which we originally reported here at Spiritswander.

We can say, that pretty much everything that posters involved in this discussion mention is actually accurate and the truth despite Chris' constant "conjecture" response and you'll note that when people answer Chris' questions with details about the events which we reported - Chris actually has no response of substance. For example, when Derek Benj James describes the real events of the Oasis of the Seas cruise, aka. "Cruise for Haiti"-- that is actually the truth and Chris does not ever go back to that topic. We can also confirm that is absolutely true, that the Roloffs - Jeremy, Zach, Jacob, Molly and their friends, especially Jacob Mueller still do (even rather recently) indeed refer to their positive supportive fans as "creepers". Again, you'll notice that Chris doesn't even actually deny those specific incidents that are referenced. One of the only things that Chris actually specifically refutes was when a poster connected Jeremy to the underage drinking in the Roloff garage (the You Tube Video we posted about - two french girls that were in Oregon posted a video which contained video of them and Mueller and an 18 year old friend of the Roloffs named Christian doing shots of Jack Daniels in the Roloff garage earlier this year. Chris Cardamone states that Jeremy was not present in the garage at the time. Which as someone said, is actually somewhat irrelevant to the overall issue of underage drinking since we can confirm that for anyone who actually knows the Roloffs denying that Mueller and Jeremy have ever consumed alcohol together (more on that soon) is laughable.

So with no further delay, this was the content of the thread.

http://www.facebook.com/jacobroloff [this is an impostor's page - but where the discussion took place]

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Jacob Roloff [the fake] Check out my twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/thejacobroloff

Jacob George Roloff [real] Im the real Jacob roloff... BY the way... this guys twitter is fake...he copies my facebook statuses... which means he is on my friends list.. cuz my profile is ultra private

Peter Lane Yes the real Jacob is right. How dare this imposter! Everyone knows the real Roloff "kids" (3 are legal adults) don't speak or acknowledge dreaded "fans" that enable to live in mansions and take freebie vacays!

Peter Lane Shame on the imposter for spreading just a tiny little bit of happiness to some poor fan who gets excited that someone they might like from tv might actually appreciate their support. Shame, shame on you imposter for not being as stuck up snobs as the very same people (fans) that make you rich and provide you with the lifestyle you take advantage of! Shame on you imposter!!

Mark Helton Peter thank you it takes a real man to pick on a kid. All your time of staying home alone and friendless has paid off for you.

Peter Lane: Mark, he's the one the posted. My sentiments also apply to his 3 adult siblings.

Peter Lane: And way to insult people who are lacking in friends...maybe instead of insulting you should ask Kelsey to pray for them.

Jennifer Dawson: Jacob George, this is for the fans. Remember. Instead of complaining, why don't you tell people where to find your real page that they can see the real you? Oh thats right. You don't because that would be lame and dumb by doing something for scummy annoying creepy fans. By posting this, what do you want a real fans to do? Unlike this and never look at it again? Um, fans like seeing picture and random statuses. You guys dont give them any other option. You, Molly, Jeremy and Zach have dedicated what, 1 second of your time in 6 years to your fans on the internet? The rest is spent playing with all the free time you have because you don't need to work like you would have if it wasn't for your fans supporting the show. Therefore you have nothing to whine about. You should thank this guy for putting his time in and doing it for you. And the fake Roloffs are actually a lot nicer to people than the real ones. lol.

Chris Cardamone: Peter you do know that creating a fake account allows people online to misrepresent public figures. It is unethical and akin to ID theft. Jacob is correct, he is a minor, and should be allowed to have a private facebook and twitter account.

Peter Lane: Chris, I don't disagree that it's morally "wrong" to impostor a public figure, although I do consider it harmless. It is deceptive as I said. Someone posts something here to the fake Jacob or to the fake Jeremy and then they get all happy and excited because the fake Roloff responded nicely. The fan is fooled thinking the Roloff actually cares, when really it's just a fake. That's dishonest.

Peter Lane: Chris, in the grand scheme of things, how is Jacob being harmed by people on this page, seeing a picture of a waterfall? Yes, I get it. The real Jacob, Jeremy, Molly and Zach hate fans, finds them super annoying and don't want to give them anything, so they get upset when an imposter lets the fans see some things. But in the grand scheme of things, is Jacob being harmed by this page? No. I don't see the fake posting his private phone number or the name of the school he goes to (oh wait, LPBW blew that wide open! ;))

Peter Lane: Chris, while Jacob is a minor, Jeremy isn't. Zach isn't. 18 year old Molly isn't. Feel free to direct people to their real fan pages.....oh, that's right they don't have them because that's how much they care about giving back to the fans that have supported them with their (the fans) own hard earned money and time. I would think, you of all people, would have a little more appreciation for the fans that have supported LPBW. How awful, they want some interaction with a celebrity. In this case, the celebrities are too ungrateful to give them any. Some guy/girl or rebel friend, creates a fan page and gives the fans something and makes a few people happy. Dishonest? Yes. Am I going to weep for the real Roloffs? Nope.

Chris Cardamone: Peter - Actually the Roloff's don't hate their fans. I think people blow that out of proportion especially online. If you have even met the Roloffs they are inviting and thankful to their fans. Like anyone when people aggressively prode into their lives' or create fake accounts to distribute private material it is alarming. Wouldn't that alarm you? Jacob's public image could be harmed by statements made by an imposter (defamation of character) that is why it is concerning, especially cause he is a minor. Hope that makes sense

Chris Linton: Mark, I asked you this once in a private message but you never responded. Maybe you will answer here since one of the Solid Rockers is here. I'm genuinely curious. If you are gay, by the FB causes you support and a few things when you had sent me a friend request, I'm thinking you are, how do you rationalize wanting to maintain friendships of people that feel so strongly that what you are, is wrong and should be cured? Who knows, maybe a few days ago Kelsey went to Solid Rock with Jer and listened to the beloved John Mark speak about how gays are perverted and should pray to Jesus to be cured and then Kelsey and Jeremy spread the message and recommended it. If I were gay, I don't think I could be friends with people who had those opinions of who I was and still maintain a healthy self image. (and I haven't even mentioned the gay slurs that the Roloffs and their friends are fond of) . I get that you were associated with LPBW and being friends with them is like feeling like you're part of the cool club, but doesn't it bother you to be friends with people who have such opinions about you? Sorry to put you on the spot, but I'm genuinely curious.

Peter Lane: Chris C, I appreciate that in your role, you need to put on your PR cap and blow smoke, but I think everyone with just an ounce of common sense and knowledge knows how the Roloff "kids" (I refuse to refer to 21 year olds as "kids") feel about and treat fans. Do you want to put your hand on the Bible and say that Mueller, Jer, Zach, Jacob etc, don't refer and mock smiling excited fans as "creepers?? Because you, me and them all know it's the truth. And go ahead and tell me how much time Jeremy, Zach, Molly and Jacob have dedicated to their fans online and showed how inviting and thankful they are in a tangible way? You know the truth is they haven't. Lame excuses like they are just too busy, etc, are just that, lame excuses. They mock the fans, the real fans - the ones that say "you're so cool! I love your show!" with their real friends and they totally ignore and show no appreciation to their fans online and haven't during a span of approx. 6 years. Two of them have been adults for 3 years and absolutely nothing changed so I don't think pointing out that Jacob is a minor is much of an excuse for the Roloffs as a whole. I get where we disagree. You think as long as they put on a smiley face for the Pumpkin Season Customers that are paying the Roloffs money and posing for a picture, that's them being inviting and appreciative. And I consider that putting on a public act for paying customers. I consider their real feelings to be how they talk and mock those people when they are not being paid and how they are with their real friends and by their own actions of totally ignoring their fans online.

Peter Lane: Btw Chris, Re: "Jacob's public image could be harmed by statements made by an imposter (defamation of character)" -- As others have pointed out, the Roloff imposters are far nicer to the fans than the real Roloffs. What could harm Jacob's, Zach's, Jeremy's (and has in the past!) public image is when their real words, actions and behaviors leak out to the public. And that's why you are concerned about this fake, because if the real Jacob spouts off and call someone a f*g, you're afraid the impostort would post that and then it would be Jeremy redux and that could set off a series of events that would land Jacob in the news as the "Big Bigot In The Land of the Little People" just like what happened with Jeremy when his real and truthful behavior got out.

Chris Cardamone: Wow Peter you really don't have any common sense about this issues. Sad but you are intitled to your opinion like everyone else. Have a great day :)

Christa Pridmore: What I see from this conversation is Peter saying real facts, like how the Roloffs insult fans with their friends, think they are annoying creeps and are complete ungrateful snobs to fans....Chris Cardamone has no way of responding because it's the truth thus he insults Peter by saying he doesn't have common sense. That allows Chris to stop short of saying Peter is lying, because Chris knows Peter is right.

Melissa: I agree with Peter. They're worried that when they post another picture of the Roloffs and Mueller abusing cats, it will get out again and some people (like myself, I am proud to say) will call them shameful and disgusting animal abusers and a bunch of phonies. Matt posts a picture of Jeremy in a tree with a cat to get people saying "Aww Roloffs are so sweet" and the truth is they are really throwing cats to the ceiling for their fun. Phonies and disgusting animal abusers. Gee, why didn't they show the Jeremy and Mueller cat tossing on the LPBW special since that's how they spend their time?

Chris Cardamone: Pete, Christa, and Melissa you all must be clarvoiant and know everything that the Roloffs do, what they are thinking, and how they act. To me there is a lot of assumptions flying around. Additionally if you have kids I am sure you would want other people online making fake profiles about them, agreed? It is totally fine to stalk people online is what you all are saying. That make total sense right guys?

James Wright: I find it really easy to point a finger and say, "That's wrong". When you're an outside looking in. Truth of the matter is, this show was conceived when these people you all are talking about were children. Their parents saw an opportunity to have their story heard and documented and it blew up and became big. Do you know how hard it must of been to grow up with this sort of attention because of decision that your parents made? I can't. You get upset with the younger Roloffs because they're not appreciative, but I find it impossible to put myself into their situation to be able to subject my opinion on how they should feel when I can't comprehend the good and the bad that comes with the sort of attention they have received. When you're in the spotlight, the things do or say, are judged, ridiculed, and critiqued a lot more than if you're not in the spot light.

The sad apart about it is, these kids are being held super accountable for things they have said before they have and are able to grow up and experience the world. They're are ignorant and naive, as we all are when we are younger. If you can honestly say you have never done or said anything wrong to or about anyone when you were their age, then I commend you, but you're a liar.

They have made so much of their lives public to us and allowed people to have a glimpse into the makeup of their family, that I think they deserve some privacy. Is it easy to say they should show more respect to their fans? Shrug. I feel we all should just show respect to everyone as people, not just because we have be shown support by them. People grow and learn and they make conclusions based on what they feel their mistakes have been, that's a part of learning. They're great kids.

I really hope that the decisions and statements I made when I was younger are not held against me as badly as you're holding it to these people. The things I have done and said were a lot worse than any thing this kids have done, but I have learned with age and know how to react to situations a lot differently.

Chris Linton: Btw Mark and Eric, I wonder if you are outraged against "picking on a kid" when Jacob, Jeremy, Mueller, and co. pick on that kid Justin Bieber and insult and mock him. Or is that ok because he is more famous so its ok to pick on a kid? Or is it the Golden Rule of the Roloffs and their friends? Ok for a Roloff to do it, but wrong for other people to do it to a Roloff.

Christa Pridmore: James, for real? They didn't allow anything out of the goodness of their hearts, they did the show for money so they can have 34 BMWs and Mercedes and live in a mansion and vacation all over the world every 3 months. Should Jeremy have been patted on the back for calling people f*gs and N's (words that you can't even say on Facebook!) and for saying fans suck the unsuckable or for throwing cats? That's not how people learn their behavior is wrong. They learn by people holding them accountable. How ironic is it that people that know the Roloffs always think it's horrible that people criticize the Roloffs when it comes out that they are using nasty slurs and insulting people, when the whole premise of the show that they collect checks for was supposed to be how words are hurtful and to accept people for who they are without insulting them or putting them down. When it's the Roloffs behaving badly, some people are all "Shhhhh! Don't say a word that it's wrong!"

Peter Lane: James Wright, those "great kids" have never once apologized for any of the behavior mentioned here (the slurs, the insults, the mean spirited mocking of minors that the Roloffs have done, the animal cruelty). Even as some of the Roloffs have turned the corner into adulthood, they still have never once apologized or admitted a wrong. How is that growing? How is that being "great kids"?

Chantelle Lamont: Chris people don't need to be clarvoiant, they just need to have read Spiritswander to know how the Roloffs really act, what they do and what they support. You can only hide the truth for so much, but eventually it seeps out. I notice that you aren't denying that the Roloffs and their friends call fans creepers, don't interact with fans online, or any of the other stuff people have said.

Chantelle Lamont: And Chris? Honestly, they are public figures. People creating fake celebrity twitters and Facebooks is nothing new. I don't think it's right either, but Peter is right, nobody is being hurt and he's 100% right about that the real Roloff kids don't do anything for their fans online. I think it's fair to call them ungrateful jerks.

Jennifer Williams: James, I think Jacob is the only one that has any excuse at all and even he is getting a little old for it. How old do you have to be to figure out that you wouldn't be going on luxurious vacations or everyone in the family wouldn't have 2 BMWs (the list goes on and on) if it wasn't for those things known as "fans"? And how old do you have to be to realize that calling those fans losers, creeps, 'suck the unsuckable' to quote Jer, is not being a very nice person?

Jennifer Williams: Btw, celebrities are far more damaged because of people that surround them that are suck ups (known as sycophants) , than people with the courage to tell the celebrity that they are acting like a jerk or doing something wrong.

Cindy Matthews: Hi James, while I agree with some of what you said, one thing that makes me uncomfortable is the lack of concern for the victims of the Roloffs bad behavior. You have a lot of concern for the Roloffs because they are famous. What about the poor girl that said Jeremy was cute? Jeremy, Mueller, and other friends told her she was a creepy freak with no friends and should just kill herself. I know that's true because I saw it myself. You don't care about that girl because you don't know her. That was a really really crappy and cruel thing for these kids that you call "great kids" did to a poor girl whose only crime was being a fan of a public figure. There's more examples like that. I hope the more recent young girl with braces that Mueller was calling a creeper and making fun never sees or realizes what they were doing to her. They are mean spirited hurtful. Just because they are on TV and you know them doesn't give them a pass to treat people like dirt. By the way, while kids do make mistakes, if they grow up and realize it, they apologize for it. That has never mentioned. You don't forgive someone that doesn't even ask to be forgiven because they won't admit or won't realize that they were wrong.

Samantha Hewitt: Real or fake, Jacob is going to be super good looking when he's 16-17ish. Too bad good looking people are usually jerks, it's even more likely when you add in a dash of fame, they become that much more "jerky" because people let them away with acting like douche bags because they want to be around them

Cody McNeil: Cindy, I'm a big believer in karma. How badly they've treated people and all the lies will eventually come back to bite them. Life is like that.

Rap Smith: Spot on Cindy. Personally I completely agree that it's wrong for anyone to be imitating Jacob on facebook, he's a minor and a celebrity so I imagine that instead of posting who the real Jake Roloff is, all that really needs to be done is to report this to facebook.

Rap Smith: With that said, Peter raises interesting points, as does Cindy, and I am not shocked Chris Cardamone is spouting the public line that the Roloffs always trot out. The poor poor kids, stalked by evil fans (who the Roloffs love and pray for of course) who never act badly except when they do, and yet when they are caught out, its everyone else thats wrong. Chris, I know that Jeremy Roloff uses racist slurs because I saw him doing it on myspace. I know he calls his dad a dick because I saw it on your family show. I know Mueller and Jeremy get their jollies throwing the family cat because those two grown adults were dumb enough to post pictures. I know Jeremy Roloff provides alcohol to his underage buddies Mueller and Christian because not only did he have pictures of himself and his friends drinking whisky in the Roloff garage (made identifiable by your show) he then had the *great* idea to allow those pictures to be posted on line. No one needs to make any effort to "go after" the Roloff children (three of whom are adults, two of whom have been adults for three years) Actions have consequences. The Roloff "boys" are old enough to understand that their image is important and can be damaged... you're making that point about Jake right now. The creepers remarks, the telling fans to eff off and kill themselves, leaving racist comments on myspace public for years, posting photos of themselves throwing cats, drinking, and encouraging underage kids to drink as well... if they're going to post that kind of stuff, it's not the *fans* ruining their reputation. Its the fault of the people posting pictures of themselves getting drunk with their underage pals and then having their producer friend play the "how dare anyone judge these precious *children*" games.

Michael Perry: Rap, the thing that saddens me is Jeremy is supposedly Christian. I've listened to the podcasts that Jeremy loves so much. Ones where John Mark Comer talks about drunkards being sinners. I even asked and was told point blank that underage drinking is defying God. What does Jeremy do? Lie about not drinking. Uses unwholesome language. Tears people down with insults. Gets drunk. Participates in underage friends drinking. Then if you say he's not being a good example of a Christian, the Roloffs and their friends who are more concerned with buddying up to their famous friends than standing for God, yell that no one has a right to judge them except God. Since when did it become wrong to speak up when you see someone doing something wrong or see someone lying or being a hypocrite?

Chris Cardamone: Rap if you read the thread this is about Jacob. Way to generalize as you and SpiritsWander always do to lump other peoples actions and imbue them onto others. Mueller is responsible for his own stuff just like Jeremy, just like Zach, just like Matt. Everyone on this thread is basically saying Jacob is doing the same things and is guilt for whatever claims you are making, and therefore doesn't deserve any privacy. And again if you read the thread this is about a minor's privacy online, not about you all rehashing and reciting old issues from the past. In short they should apologize for certain actions as anyone should but that is not on me. Also who should they apologize to? Would you all like a written letter or or a public appears so you feel relevant and heard? Additionally with the comments and vitriol expressed by "you fans" why would you ever think any Roloff would want to interact with you all online? The bottom line is you know know them but judge them, spread rumors, and hate yourselves ask you claim they are doing. Guess you guys are just as bad as those you are judging. Maybe what we need is a big apology fest. Maybe SpiritsWander can arrange that once he/she decides to identify themselves so we all can have a nice face to face conversation. Rather than sending shady one way email asking for interviews about the Roloff and not given a real name. That seems like honest reporting and a trustworthy source to me. Cause that's how respected and trusted online resource go about doing journalism. Not bias or fear there. I look forward to your posts!

Rap Smith: Yes, clearly my initial comment that if the actual concern was Jake Roloff's privacy then this facebook should be reported went over your head, Chris. ;) And clearly you're also missing the point that the vast majority of unpleasant online tidbits that have gotten out about the Roloff kiddies have gotten out because.... the Roloff kids or their friends posted. Not the evil fans. I am not the nitwit with a tv show who decided to take pictures of me and my buddies getting drunk in the garage... but I notice *your* judgement isn't for the 21 year old child but for those of us on line who took notice. Judging others Chris? Tsktsktsk... funny how judging is perfectly acceptable when you're defending a Roloff but the rest of us need to "look to ourselves first and ask if we are perfect" - apparently you Chris, class yourself like a Roloff, aka perfect, since you get to judge. Btw, personally, based on all of the arrogance I see from the Roloff camp - especially seeing what, the producer of the show playing the "haters judge! Anyone who criticizes the Roloffs is lying and wrong and shady and judging is wrong wrong wrong" - I personally wouldn't believe an apology from a Roloff even if they covered themselves in bible quotes. But I do think, if you geniunely care about these "kids", its a little sad that you never bothered to sit the "kids" down and explain what bad press was and how to avoid it. Jacob, sad to say, is being judged by the example his family has set to the public in their interactions on line. I'm also amused your attitude is exactly the same as certain anonymous posters at spirit's blog. And frankly, you may want to peruse Spirit's blog - I've always been upfront that the Roloffs interacting with people on line is a huge mistake - and not just because the "kids" get mouthy.

Derek Benj James: Chris, I think your focus should be less about these pages and more about how you helped create a way of life that forces the Roloffs to hide everything so they can be fake and present lie after lie. James, is Jeremy the only guy to call people the nasty gay slur or racial slurs? No (although contrary to what those people would have you believe, there are kids that don't talk like that) . But I bet when you were their age you weren't getting patted on the back and pay check to say "Don't say midget, it's a hurtful word." Is Jeremy the only kid to get drunk and engage in underage drinking? No. But most kids aren't getting paid to publicly write under their name that they are better than bad kids that drink and do drugs, because Jeremy loves God so much so he doesn't drink. He lied publicly. The slurs vs midget is glaring hypocrisy. Truly, people aren't supposed to notice or be appalled by those lies and hypocrisy?

Derek Benj James: Chris, basically everything SpirtsWander reports is true. Jeremy does say everything Spirits has reported. Jeremy and Mueller have done everything spirits has reported. Jeremy does support the anti-diverse church that Spirits reported a year ago. The Roloffs and their friends do call fans creepers. Spirits reports the real truth and not some "family friendly" propaganda that sells a phony image like LPBW. I don't really care if SpiritsWander is a He, She or a Dog that can type. SpiritsWander reports the truth about the Roloffs. Also Chris, make no mistake, the fans that the Roloffs have insulted are the well meaning kind, "I love your show" kind of fans.

Christa Pridmore: Chris, to answer your question about who or where should they apologize? Why doesn't Jeremy finally man up and do the interview with SpiritsWander and say what he has to say there? That would seem like the obvious place to me. Make his views known there. If he's such a great guy like you and James insist, why hasn't he ever apologized and showed his maturity ANYWHERE? Maybe because he thinks did nothing wrong and still does those same things. Like it or not, anyone in the world with an internet connection can google Jeremy Roloff and instantly find out all the nasty things he's done. Jeremy Roloff bigot or racist is the first or second prompt that comes up on You Tube. And then people will see that he still has never apologized.

Derek Benj James: By the way Chris, what you say about blaming Jacob for the actions of his brothers or Mueller is not exactly true. It's quite easy to see Jacob emulates Jeremy in a lot of ways including a lot of the bad behavior, the slurs and the insulting and mocking of people. It's easy to see that Jeremy and Mueller are his heroes. I saw Jacob's real Formspring before he turned it private. You know what I learned from Jacob? Midget is a terrible word and really offensive.....But a kid named Lane is a f*g (gay slur). Hmmmmmmmmm. Does that sound like Jacob is following the identical example of someone else in the family with the initials J.R?

Chris Cardamone: RAP...and this is to be expected again you are missing the point...can you answer one questions without clouding it with bias and using Jeremy and Mueller's action to divert the issue? Should Jacob (a minor) be allow a private non-pirated facebook page. Secondly I never said anything about evil fans but thanks again for assuming my opinions. Third I don't see myself as perfect - again thanks for the assumptions. Forth there was no judgement in that comment I think for the post it is clear you all are judging the Roloff and stating hurtful comments. Fifth I didn't say anyone who is judging the Roloff is shady I said the process by which the information is gain is shady. Sixth again surprising another assumption that Matt, Amy, and I haven't talked to the kids about such behavior. Should I keep going with all your assumption? I sure will!!!! Seventh so you are assuming I am an anonymous poster on SpiritsWander pull the IPs and let me know what you find.

Chris Cardamone: Derek - wow more assumption here. First Derek I didn't create a way of life for the Roloffs to lie. Two you are assuming again that the Roloff's only did the show for money? Hilarious! Three your assuming the entire show was a propaganda campaign TLC did spending millions of dollars to solely promote diversity and Christianity and that is wasn't entertainment? Wow really? Forth where is their any facts that Jeremy supported underage drinking? Wasn't Mueller in that photo not Jeremy. Shocker assumption again and if you are taking quotes from the book about Jeremy never drinking, well that book was written when he was 15 and now he is 21 and allow to make his own choices. Sixth in regards to his preacher I am sure you don't believe or do or hold doctrine over everything your preacher says or does correct? Seventh again another assumption "it is clear Jacob emulates Jeremy" wow really you think that flies. I mean dude really? Really? You expect people to believe that Jacob isn't his own person, deserves his own identity, and you are imbuing he is going to do the same stuff? Given this thread and your formspring point are you sure it is the real Jacob Roloff. Dude why are you even pulling up a 14 years formspring? Thanks for playing

Chris Cardamone: Christa - First why doesn't SpiritsWander man up and reveal who he/she is? Would you really do an interview with someone how refuses to tell you who they are? Are you asserting that it is fine to share your views and opinions and open up your entire life to someone you don't know their identity and given the context of the site how they will use your interview? Sounds a bite naive to me Christa. Two - assuming again Jeremy goes around doing the saying stuff from the past is a fabrication and untrue but it's cool if you keep thinking that. Three - I love how you started it "Maybe (=assumption) because he thinks...." do I really have to explain anymore that you are assuming what other people are thinking and doing. Fourth - Christa no sure so I will ask how were you personal hurt, injured, defamed, or distress by what Jeremy said? And why are you in such pursuit of an apology? I think that is a relevant question deserving a relevant answer or is there something else?

Chris Cardamone: Cause I really want you guys to keep burying yourselves. If you look at this thread there is almost no mention of Jacob. You all are focusing on Jeremy, Mueller, Matt, etc. So I have to ask the question - you all are supporting with your deflective comments that bare no credence to the issue...should adults and others online be allowed to create fake online accounts of a minor to share their personal information? I hate to make assumptions, but you guys do enough, I must assume you condoning that and the repercussions of that? Can any of you give me a YES or a NO endorsing that this practice is alright and should be permitted? Just a Yes or a No guys, thanks :)

Derek Benj James: Chris, to your last question, I think Peter put it well at the very beginning of this thread. It's not something I would do and it is ethically wrong, but a real crime or something terrible? No. Like Peter said, does it really affect the real Jacob if people on this page see a picture he took of a water-fall? It's not like the guy is using it for personal gain. What is the impostors intention? To share some pictures that fans might enjoy seeing? It's dishonest, but is it really hurtful? I bet if the real Roloffs cared to have a fan page, the fake would give up, like the fake Matt and Amy seemed to give up after they did their real pages.

Derek Benj James: 2nd. Formspring wasn't that hard. I like how you're passive aggressively judging me because I know how to use the internet. All the Roloffs are public figures. I like to find out the truth to compare it to what is presented as the truth in tv land. Steps to find Jacob's Formspring. Go to Formspring.com. Search Jacob Roloff. It brought up 3 profiles. It was fairly easy to figure out which one was real. OrphanT2. There you go blaming someone for reading something about the Roloffs online. This is just like how Matt tried to blame people for reading that Zach and Jeremy were calling pumpkin visitors that ask for pictures "Dumb idiots" and of course for seeing Jeremy's slurs. Blame the people for reading it, not the ones actually doing it.

Chris Cardamone: Derek - Ummm would you be cool with people sharing your photos or comments without your consent? Wouldn't you feel like that is concerning. Maybe it would be cool to share all your kid's photos, personal information with the world and have no recourse or control over that? Or know who is even doing that. Does that make sense dude I mean really? It is harmful imagine everything you do, post, talk about, think about, or have is made public and shared with the world without your consent. Don't you think that has a mental and emotional effect on a kid? And facebook isn't the show so please don't go there

Derek Benj James: ‎3. I don't think it matters what SpiritsWander's real name is. You want to know to see if you know who they are and or to help you figure out where or who they get their information from. I think the Roloffs and now you, use that as an excuse to avoid the tough questions. Spirits did the interview with Dan Meichtry and then Dan posted right after saying he was glad he did it and thanked Spirits for not twisting anything. Spirits posted something from Jen Montzingo after people were saying stuff about her. I don't see Jen saying Spirits misquoted or represented her. Spirits did something with Dan and he said Spirits had class and intergrity. Spirits posted Jen's response and Jen isn't saying that Spirits misquoted her. I don't think that's a real concern at all. I think they just don't want to be asked the tough questions.

Derek Benj James: ‎4. About the preacher, if Jeremy doesn't like being known as hypocrite for his beliefs (and in my opinion, collecting a pay check for appearing in a show that promotes "accept people that are different from you and be pro-diversity, while spending your time supporting "people who are different from me are perverts that need to be cured" is being a hypocrite) why doesn't he clarify what he believes and why he loves John Mark Comer so much. There are a lot of churches he could go to that aren't that bigoted and outspoken against gay people.

Derek Benj James: 5. Are you splitting hairs about you not creating a way of life that the Roloffs need to hide truth to maintain the fake image? You were one of the main producers of the show. Yes you are part of it. Your show promotes a fake image of the Roloffs. People that watch the show think the Roloff boys are nice sweet kids that think words are hurtful. When they're really using slurs they need to hide it and make sure it doesn't get out because it screws up the image. The show and LPBW empire sells the kids as squeaky clean kids guided by God. So they need to hide all of the drinking stuff and hope no one lets it out that Jer is getting wasted. By the way, Jeremy wasn't drinking at 16? You want to swear on that one? My main point is you're concerned about this fake page because you're worried that Jacob is going to be just like Jeremy and say offensive things that will cause bad press.

Derek Benj James: 6. Oh come on. The Roloffs did the show for LP Awareness! You really expect anyone to believe that anymore. Funny how despite the fact they totally ignore the fans, Jeremy and Zach now that they have full choice themselves, still keep on signing those contracts and keep on going on free trips and keep on expanding their fleet of vehicles. I personally don't think it's bad that they do the show for money, but enough of fairy tales that it's about LP awareness.

Derek Benj James: ‎7. Now you're stance is that Jeremy had NO idea that his BFF is in his garage with alcohol drinking with another underaged kid. To believe your version, moral non drinking Jeremy wasn't even there and was super pissed at Mueller for invading his garage to drink with Christian? You expect anyone to really believe this? This is as bad as "the cat really landed on a pile of fluffy mattresses!" just because the floor wasn't visible in the picture. You guys might want to consider entering the Presidential race because you have a lot in common with politicians.

Derek Benj James: ‎8. I realize you want to be cool to Jacob and it's not cool for a 15 year old to be known as treating his brother as a hero, but I do really doubt that you don't see that. Amy has even said it herself. Gee everything Jeremy likes is cool to Jacob. Jeremy gets into photography, Jacob suddenly gets into photography. Jeremy dresses a certain way, Jacob dresses the same way. If you can't see the idol worship of Jeremy and Mueller, you aren't very perceptive, but I suspect you do see it and just don't want to admit it for Jacob's sake because he doesn't like for people to comment on it.

Chris Cardamone: Derek - One - got it you are condoning stalking and reposting minors facebook posts. Thanks for going on public record with that. Again you start with an assumption my friend.

Two - thanks for again assuming I am passive aggressive but I am not. Hilarious you said you found

3 Jacob Roloff accounts on Formspring, HAHA. So yes MR CSI explain to me your process to categorically and empirically identify the real Jacob Roloff on FormSpring you make your "factual" assertions from? (I really can't wait for your response on this it will be classic as I am sure you did a ton of in field psych questions with Jacob before you locked this fact in).

Third - I don't care at all about SpiritWanders name or where they get the info from. However as a professional who has worked in news and entertainment for years it is expected to be mutually diffuse about who you are before you decide to answer "tough questions". SpiritsWander is not reputable or respected by any source other than online with posters. If it was I am sure TLC or Discovery would have reached out to them to secure an interview or provide information. Sadly the tack of the site is a little skewed (can't wait for the debate on that). This is a one way conversation because SpiritsWander has made it so. Honestly do you think people would just sit down with Barbara Walters without knowing who they are being interviewed by? My your assertion I guess all public figures should just do any interview asked by the public regardless if they identify themselves or not. That seems reasonable, right? Given that Dan and Jen aren't super close Roloffs friends I can confirm they don't have the pulse of the family or can give quantitatively truthful answers about the Roloffs. But that is fine if you all believe that. I am glad they had a great experience with Spirits but that doesn't invalidate (as you tried again to intimate) the shady process SpiritsWander approaches Roloff friends with is just strange and weird.

4 - dude really you just basically made Jeremy John Mark Conner. I don't know John but I am sure he preaches about more that just that. Do you think before you cast your judgement you might consider there are other parts of his message Jeremy associates with and loves rather than just focusing on what you think is hypocritical? I am dude really, like really? That baffles me on so many levels. Focus on the negative. Have you ever sat down with Jeremy and asked him about his views on homosexuality? No you haven't you make assumptions, post them as fact, and vilify him cause based on these posts it seems a popular stance. Again this has nothing to do with with my original concerns but dude keep posting torque and half measures why it's okay to violate a minors privacy. You could actually stop commenting know we both think it is wrong but continue away defending something and aligning yourself in a strange criminal way. I think I get it it seems you really really need to be right about something.

I LOVE THIS DEREK - you are so off base. 5. So by your comment "Splitting Hairs" you are assuming and saying the show actively promoted a deceptive image of the Roloffs. That they are racists, bigots, and only in it for the money? I am really laughing now. But thanks for that comment so amusing and assumptive. Yes I was one of the shows primary producers - thank god you got that right.

So I guess you have compelling real evidence that Jeremy was drinking at 16 right? Please forward that to me when you can Derek I look forward to it.

Again (wow and this is crazy) you are assuming my main concern (this is shocking) but I expected it from you. If you read the thread dude I am concern that people are befriending a minor for alliterative motives stalk his profile and reposting it. Sorry if that wasn't clear but that is cool with all the other you blur and hope you further such abuse. Awesome dude, way to go for DEREK!!!

‎6 - Derek - I really do enjoy this. Yes! If you don't know the show was about normalizing little people and we did a great job. Again - and I really don't get this you all think the entire journey of the TV Show was all about money? Why don't you talk to a little person, someone with a disability, or maybe a parent, Amy's foundation raises money for kids and has changed so many LPs and special need kids lives. Yep - your right again Derek that is all selfish Roloff celebrity stuff going on there. Amy raised money to build a well in Haiti for charity to give 500 orphaned kids clean water at a school. I guess the question to you Derek what have you done to better this world? But dude you are totally right the Roloffs are all about the money. Their have been so many lives changed, bettered, and remolded by the work that Amy, Matt, and the show have done. But yeah you are right Derek cause most of this hasn't been covered by the SHOW it's all about PR and being fake. Again you still aren't talking about Jacob but that's fine I will check you on whatever you say sir. Keep it coming!

7 - Derek what was my stance before? HAHA dude you are hilarious. What is my version Derek? ( :) I really can't wait to hear it). UHMMM haha as you all say Jeremy and Mueller are so close wouldn't you think Jeremy would be there if he was? Oppps again assumption kills you Derek? You are accusing, convicting, and inditing him but guess what he wasn't there. Sorry Derek keep hunting brother but again thank you for assuming and undercutting your very nonfactual statements. Actually you should run for office given you seem to have built your platform on bias and inaccurate facts. Dude DEREK 2012! You got the knod go make it better, haha

8 - thanks for assuming I want to be cool, Jacob is actually 14 (nice fact check). Sadly you have no idea who Jeremy or Jacob is. Jeremy likes cars, Jacob doesn't. Jeremy like to build things Jacob doesn't. Jeremy likes to work on the farm Jacob doesn't. I am counting three for three about how different Jeremy and Jacob are. But dude Derek thank you so much for trying again to make that dog hunt. Good work but they are very different! You are hilarious, I mean like really so funny :)

Derek Benj James: . Thank you so much Chris for bringing up Amy's charity and the big caring hearts of the Roloffs. Lets start there and how your non fake and real and raw show portrayed it as a "Trip for Haiti!" Lets talk about what it really was? It was a 7 day luxury cruise, another freebie of course and because of the fans, it did after all start as the Amy Roloff celebrity cruise. Amy, Jeremy, Zach, and some friends…er charity board members got a free luxury cruise. They spent most of the week on the world's largest cruise ship having fun, hanging out with pretty rich girls, tanning on beaches. Then they got to Haiti, went for a few hours to hand out a few supplies for a PR filming segment. Then they left the orphans and went back to their luxurious vacation and fancy dinner with the Captain. And for that it's billed as a Cruise For Haiti!!! What, 5 hours out of a 7 day cruise! What saints they are! How many people would be so giving as Amy, Zach and Jeremy? They went on an expensive luxury cruise vacation free of charge and they used a few hours of the whole week to morph it into being patted on the back as Charity heroes. Thanks for the sacrifice Amy, Zach and Jer! How giving of them to accept a 7 day luxury vacation that they twist into a "Trip for Haiti!" because they spent less than half of one day filming a PR film shoot to hand out the supplies. Gee Chris, why didn't you portray the luxury vacation in that episode? The TV audience would have no idea that they really spent the week sunning on beaches and on the world's biggest cruise ship and the majority of the people on the ship had no idea there was even a "trip for Haiti" at all!

Seriously Chris if you're going to make Amy into a saint for her charity lets be real. What does it really do? Amy, a very wealthy person, asks fans (there they are again! They come in handy sometimes, huh??) with much less money to give THEIR money. Amy's part of the charity is going to party after party and sipping margaritas with high rollers like some of your partners in your production company. That's hardly being Sean Penn-esque. Then Amy accepts the credit for fans giving their money and people like you say "Look at what Amy does for Charity!" Amy's charity got her, Jeremy and Zach a luxury cruise vacation. Amy's charity enables her to hob knob with high rollers and attend parties, again while other people are giving their money.

Derek Benj James: 2. Oh really? Oh Jacob George? What is the coolest car? A BMW of course! No comment on Amy saying Jeremy is Jacob's hero that he looks up to? He dresses like him, he uses the same speech phrases as Jeremy. It's not really unusual for little brother to think his big brother is so cool and like what he likes…yes I'm left to conclude that you're denying it because you know how much it pisses Jacob off when people say what people know, that he idolizes Jeremy and Mueller and thinks they are beyond cool. Oh and in your 3 for 3 list, you left out Jacob's sudden interest in photography. I wonder where and why that started....

Derek Benj James: ‎3. Jeremy's love of John Mark Comer and his church... I got an idea Chris. How about you text Jeremy and tell the 21 (and a half almost!) year old man to speak for himself and set the record straight on his love of JMC and his views on homosexuality and why he spreads JMC sermons to his friends? Yes!?! Instead of you, an adult friend of Jeremy speaking for him, just like how Matt speaks for the boy Jeremy, how about Jeremy actually speaks for himself for once in his life without hiding behind an adult keeper? You know darn well what Jeremy thinks of homosexuals. And that's exactly why Jeremy stays silent and hides behind people like yourself, because you guys realize that having Jeremy on record saying gays are sinners that should pray to be cured isn't the greatest selling tool for Amy's "Being an individual tree among the forest, how to accept yourself and the differences of others" speeches. Why is it so dang hard for Jeremy to speak for himself? Here you are defending what Jeremy does or doesn't believe. Wouldn't it be easier for Jeremy to set the record straight? What's wrong with him that he can't speak for himself at 21? Or is it that you and Matt are afraid that Jeremy will mess up and admit the truth about what he believes, and that can damage the Roloff's marketability?

Derek Benj James: 4. What exactly is your point about Jeremy and underage drinking? Are you saying that Jeremy never participated in underage drinking? lol. Jacob might be reading Chris, don't set a bad example for him by letting him see you lie. And of course, are you willing to say that Mueller (not 21) has never drank in the presence of Jeremy? Bawahahaha!!!

Derek Benj James: 5. How do I know Jeremy drank at 16? Well, one, Jeremy's own words. It's too bad for you, but that got out too. Remember how at 15 actually, Jeremy and Jake Rempel stole Matt's vodka, replaced it with Sprite, got drunk and then almost burnt down the barn playing with firecrackers. Also funny how all these friends that have no reason to lie, keep confirming that Jeremy was drinking all along. Like the friends of the deceased Adam Garland who quite plainly admitted as they were grieving that Adam used to drink whiskey with Jeremy. Or other friends who responded to people questions about Jeremy drinking (before you were able to get the message out not to screw up the act) with "Of course he drinks, what teenager doesn’t?" What is your stance Chris? That Jeremy never drank underage? Hahahaha! That Mueller doesn't drink underage with Jeremy? Hahahaha! You realize you're encouraging Jacob to lie with all this crap that you're trying to deny.

Derek Benj James: 6. Dan is not a close friend of the Roloffs? Really? Did you inform Dan of this news? And Jeremy? But how good of friends Dan or Jen are with the Roloffs actually isn't the point. It's that they obviously relayed answers with Spirits and neither one reported anything negative with their experience. In fact, Dan specifically said Spirits was honest and didn't twist anything.
Considering Matt and Amy have done interviews with "JessXoXO" I really think you're hanging on something to give an excuse so they can avoid it. Actually Chris, I guess you missed the part where Spirits said TLC used to support SpiritsWander and used to send Spirits the preview clips before they released them back when they used Daily Motion. And Amy's charity people arranged an interview that Spirits agreed to before Amy broke promises and ran away from it.

Derek Benj James 7. Chris I am right about Jacob's formspring. Why not have Jacob settle this. Hey Jacob, was your formspring OrphanT2? (Now don't go encouraging the kid to lie, Chris!) There is no doubt. He called a kid named Lane (and a kid he called Lyle) "f*gs". that he said he hated. He also said fans were annoying.

Derek Benj James: ‎8. I made my position the fake account quite clear. It's ethically wrong, but ultimately harmless. They are public figures and there is going to be this kind of attention. If they can't handle it, maybe you and their parents shouldn't have kept collecting a paycheck for doing the show? Also, don't you think you would have less to worry about if the kids were actually a little more like the "great kids" that you, James, Mark, all say they are? Maybe if they were a little more decent and didn't call adoring fans creepers and weren't using slurs or being bigoted against gay people or getting drunk or throwing cats, then they wouldn't need to worry about the truth getting out because their behavior wouldn't actually be bad.
Btw if I was a public figure, I would have a fan page…like the majority of public figures. If they detest it so much, they should get out of it. Stop accepting the trade out freebies, the paychecks and the vacations and really go back to a private life without being funded by fan support.

Rap Smith: Chris - in all seriousness, I clearly stated this fake facebook should be reported and that it was wrong for anyone to be imitated Jake. Do you know how to scroll up? Or would you like to ask me to repeat myself again and loudly proclaim I'm refusing to answer your question...again? Have *you* reported this facebook, Chris?

Second, in regards to evil fans, you do agree that the people who origanally posted photos of Mueller and Jeremy tossing the family cat, videos of Mueller and Jeremy drinking in the Roloff garage, and racist comments by one Jeremy James Roloff were in fact friends and or actual members of the Roloff family and NOT fans stalking them? Because I tire of the Roloffs doing something dumb and then crying "we're being stalked!" when they're the one's putting these cute tidbits out there.

Third, you're the one having the issue about judgement, not me. I hate the game you folks in the Roloff camp play - "do you know them? How can you judge them if you don't know them??" but then you get to run and point judgemental fingers too? This combines with number four, that you feel everyone is just saying hurtful things. FYI Chris, thats a judgement on your part... made hilarious because you're demanding people explain how hurt they are in order to justify their offense at Jeremy's comments.

Fifth, whats shady about searching for Jeremy Roloff and finding photos he and his friends are posting, of himself and buddy Mueller rubbing each other shirtless or throwing a cat around. Really, using a search engine on line is shady?

Sixth, my assumption that you, and Matt and Amy havent talked to the kids is because a)the creeper comments have continued, the kids continue to allow their friends to make videos and post pictures of their dubious activities like the underage drinking in the garage and b) because whenever these incidents do come to light, the response is ALWAYS to blame the people who notice the bad behavior, not to say "yeah, the kids screwed up, we told them not to".

Seventh - all I said was that your posts are amusing because they are very similar in tone to certain anonymous bloggers at spirits... Funny, that makes you assume such things.... But I don't run SPirits blog (and am not familar with blogger) so I don't even know if that can be done. I did however take your suggestion and run the ip addresses of some anonymous posts on my personal livejournal that were very similar in tone to folks on spirit's blog and funny.... Apparently someone from Hillsborough Oregon has been posting anon insuts on my journal. Isn't that interesting Chris?

Christa Pridmore: Chris, I am aghast that you would actually ask how I was personally hurt by Jeremy's f*g language, d*ke, N words, and other racial slurs. This is what you're stooping to so you can justify a Roloffs behaviour and lack of apology?

Is this what you teach your own kids? Say hurtful slurs and then don't apologize and anyone that is offended is just being a creepy hater?

Perhaps your next project with your production company should be examining the affect (or apparently in your mind?) lack of affect using slurs like that has in society. Perhaps you want to talk to people like Jamie Rodemeyer and tell him how f*g language isn't hurtful…oh wait.

It really saddens me to see the levels you will go to defend a Roloff. Spew slurs, but hey kids, it's not hurtful so don't apologize!......Except for people saying "midget", that's very hurtful and totally wrong. Maybe all the kids in Jacob's new school should make midget part of their every day language because after all, words aren't hurtful, right Chris?

Seriously Chris? Someone that is old enough to know better, uses disgusting hurtful language like that, never once apologizes for it, never says he is wrong, never says he regrets it or anything about it, this is what you advocate?

It's not hard to see why Jeremy has turned out the way he has and why Jacob is now apparently using the same words as insults with the adult influences they have around them that are more concerned with keeping up the fake tv image than doing the right thing for what builds character and makes a good person.

All the while he is a public figure under the guise of a diversity advocate that gets praised for saying "I tell people not to say midget because it's a hurtful word". What is sad is that because of Jeremy's lack of apology and remorse, there are people that defends what he does. That's being a great person, Chris? Setting a moral example by not having the character to say it's wrong. Jeremy wouldn't say it was wrong and now Jacob uses it to insult kids he doesn't like? That was sadly predictable.

Derek said this part very well. If you don't like my assumption about why Jeremy hasn't apologized, why doesn't Jeremy speak for himself?

Tell me Chris, when someone does something offensive and wrong over and over again. Then they get caught. They don't apologize. They don't say they're sorry. They don't say they were disappointed in themselves. They don't do any of that. You just automatically assume the person is a changed soul? Yeah I find that hard to believe. And all the time they are being paid for being diversity advocates for saying "midget is wrong". No hypocrisy there?

And this is made all the more appalling that Jeremy and his friends go around thinking that they are serving Jesus and spreading God's love when he doesn't even have the character to do something like apologize for all his nasty behavior.

It's Jeremy's choice to be a racist homophobic bigot and not apologize. Maybe in Jeremy's church, he considers refusing to apologize as being "manly" but then he needs to live with the consequences and that's the proud fact that he has this hanging around his neck for his life that anyone (future employers, associates, I already know of one person at Brooks who was disgusted at Jeremy and his bigoted views joining the school) on the internet can google him and find out what he's about. What are you complaining about Chris? Do you care if Jeremy is known as a hypocritical bigot?

Chris Linton: Christa, yeah Jeremy uses slurs and yeah Jeremy cruelly insults loving fans, and yeah Jeremy publicly lies about his relationship with alcohol, and yeah Jeremy throws cats and mutilates birds, but never forget it's his life goal to be a light in people's lives! That's what I learn from LPBW! ;)

Chris Linton: And don't forget Christa, it's all SpiritsWander's fault for bringing attention to Jeremy's slurs (which is true) and the fact that Jeremy and his BFFs mock and insult loving fans (which is true), or Jeremy's affection and support for John Mark's church (which is true) or Jeremy's fondness for throwing cats for fun (which is true), or Jeremy's habit of mutilating birds (which is true)....but bad, baaaaadddd shady SpiritsWander for reporting all these things that are actually true. News sites aren't supposed to report true things! That's what Matt's staffers are for, no bias or agenda there! ;)

Chris Cardamone: Haha you all are hilarious. So we can put and end to this thank you all for agreeing with my point about allowing Jacob to have privacy online and that fake twitter accounts featuring minors is a bad idea. So I am right! All the other non sequiturs where yeah another valiant try to draw out conflict and thump your chests ideologically. It's been fun. Have a happy and safe Halloween. And stop with all the conjecture.

Rap Smith: Well, it would be nice if you'd acknowledge that very few of us disagreed with you... Chris, did you ever report this facebook? Do you think I should pursue the anon folks commenting on my livejournal? :)

Chris Cardamone: Rap - the point of this thread is about one topic. I really didn't expect everyone to get off track. Why would I acknowledge people comments that disagree with me that are off topic? Not the point. Are you a minor Rap? I doubt it so that is another non sequitur. Again thanks for agreeing :)

Rap Smith: But you did acknowledge those comments... you even point by point tried to disagree with and repeatedly ignored my initial post where I said it was wrong for someone to set up a facebook in Jake's name. You even pretended to not see that agreement but did admit the Roloff kids had something to apologize for. Regardless, I am asking you a simple, on topic question. You've expressed concern about this facebook - have you reported it in order to protect the minor involved? And do I need to be a minor to be stalked? Thats a yes or no question, Chris.

Chris Cardamone: It isn't a facebook issue - it is a twitter account that is the issue at hand on this thread. Obviously someone friended Jacob and is now copying and pasting his statuses. So that is on Jacob. And no I haven't that is a Matt and Amy thing to do. I didn't ignore your comments you agreed with me. There is a lot of misinformation online so yeah I do at time disagree with what is posted. Again Rap the point was about a minor being impersonated with a fake online social media account. In this statement "Do you think I should pursue the anon folks commenting on my livejournal? :)" you are trying to justify it with anons on your blog and say it is similar. My point is you aren't a minor so its a non-starter for this topic. Thanks again for going off-track. Have a great weekend :)

Rap Smith: Well, you asked me to repeat myself multiple times so how was I to know you weren't ignoring my first initial post where I made it very clear that I felt if this wasn't "the real jake roloff" that it should be reported, so how was I to know? So you're whining and moaning about minors being impersonated and judging everyone accordingly if they disagree... but you haven't reported this facebook or the twitter? Because its a Matt and Amy thing to do? WHy are you complaining about the people who have no problem then? I am guessing Chris Linton, Peter Lane, etc aren't Matt and Amy yet you're clearly demanding they act as Matt and Amy, even though you yourself feel ONLY Matt and Amy should be reporting your blog.

Rap Smith: You're the one who asked me to track ip messages, Chris. And I did. WHyif you feel its completely irrelevant did you suggest it? Remember this? I know you don't like to scroll bacl - "Seventh so you are assuming I am an anonymous poster on SpiritsWander pull the IPs and let me know what you find." Funny how when I find something potentially unpleasant, you don't want to talk about it.... But I am not a minor so I guess per you I need to be harrassed with anon comments from people in Hillsborough Oregon... I mean... I am not on the level where you care.
Its also duly noted that you're not answering my question about whether or not it matters if I am a minor

Chris Cardamone: You are hilarious Rap. Keep the comedy coming. You kinda sound demanding Rap

Rap Smith: Yeah, I find you pretty laughable as well... have you even told Matt and Amy about this facebook? Since, it concerns you so? But while everyone else is obliggated to protect Jake, you are not so you manfully have left the task of reporting this facebook to Matt and Amy?

Rap Smith: Hey, Like I said, you're the one who suggested IP tracing.... I find it hilarious that you don't feel I should pursue it because I am not a minor.

Chris Cardamone: You really don't get it do you Rap? That's cool everyone is entitled do an opinion and bring up whatever they want, even if it is all off topic. Have a great one.

Rap Smith: Yeah Chris, I don't get why harassing comments from an IP in Hillborough Oregon aren't offensive :) I don't get why you willfully engaged people here and then insist -despite pointedly asking someone to explain in *detail* why hearing Jeremy Roloff use Nword and F&ggot offended them in order to justify considering the concept that an apology was due - that you did no such thing and have said NOTHING but "its wrong for someone to impersonate Jake Roloff". You may want to remove your posts if that is the game you are playing :)

Rap Smith: And just to clarify - you believe that if an *adult* recieves harassing email, no biggie, but if someone sets up a facebook in Jacob Roloff's name, it is a VERY VERY BIG DEAL and BAD... But you as an adult male have not and will not report this offense because you are not the minor's parents. What a NICE man you are :)

Christa Pridmore: Chris, I suggest you read back, because while you pointing out that it wasn't about the original topic (yes discussions online often move to other topics), you then went point by point over the Jeremy and Mueller issues. Then when people respond and answer you, you say it's off topic and have nothing to say to the points that were made to you and to the questions that were asked of you. I do hope that someone educates you about how hurtful and damaging offensive slurs can be and the right response isn't to protect the offender and blame the person that said it was wrong by demanding they tell you how they were personally hurt by it. It seems the only think that you think is wrong is someone impostering a celebrity on twitter while a Roloff spewing slurs or cruelly attacking adoring fans (I notice you never responded to Cindy Matthew's very reasonable point about the lack of concern you folks show for non-Roloffs and non Roloff Friends).

Christa Pridmore: Btw Chris if you don't have any friends in the business that work on the show, I suggest you listen to this video because what she is saying around 1:40 is something you definitely need to comprehend before you start villifying people that are offended at some of the slurs that your beloved Jeremy and friends use. It's exactly what she is saying. It's the message it sends society and to other kids. To think it's harmless fun and for adults involved like you to sit by and blame the offended is incredibly, incredibly ignorant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeM9w3L4H6I

Chris Linton: Hey Chris, a little thread history since you're now upset that all of Jeremy's unpleasantness and lies and hypocrisies have been brought up. It got on topic because people can clearly see that what you're main concern is about is that this imposter is seeing all of what Jacob is posting and if Jacob goes Jeremy Roloff circa Myspace era on you, which given the examples you guys are setting for him and based on what Derek said about Formspring, is very probable, is that you'll have another mess on your hands and Jacob will have the bigoted tag to carry around like Jeremy does. From there you started to justify all the offensive stuff Jeremy and Mueller have done that receives criticism and scorn.

But lets get back on topic Chris! How can we solve this? What are you going to do? Because although I personally feel that the fake Jacob has a good heart, I think the only thing they are doing is trying to share rather meaningless status updates and pictures with fans that are made happy by seeing them, I agree that it's deceptive and wrong for fans to think the Roloffs give a crap about them. I mean gosh, the number of random twitter people that I've seen happily tweet "Yay Jeremy Roloff accepted my friend request! I'm so excited! He's so cool!" ….it's so frustrating to see people give a Roloff credit for something they don't do. They think he's a good guy when it's just a fake! I'm against that too so I'm on your side, yay for honesty!

Solutions? You should take Rap's advice and report it to Facebook. It can't be that hard. You're so angry about this, but you won't take action? You won't tell Amy to take time away from her Charity parties to do something that you obviously feel is damaging her son?

It makes me think you're terrified of stepping on Matt's toes for some reason. Hey Chris, speaking of SpiritsWander and what a hack you think they are, I read at Spirits, Spirits didn't quite spill the beans but alluded to something. Why was your fellow producer Eric booted off the show? One moment he's the heart of the show and the next he's out the door. Why o Why? Because he stepped on the Big MR's toes about a sensitive issue and the Big MR had Eric axed? Because that's sorta what Spirits implied. I'm getting the feeling that you're kind of afraid of the same thing happening and pissing off Matt if you interfere. Things that make you go Hmmm…

That's getting off topic! Sorry! Back to solutions. You're in a hard spot because now with Jacob being at public school, one would assume that he's now friends with people that used to be fans of the show (those little pricks! Damn those fans!) It could be one of them. Maybe Jacob should delete all his friends at his new school and have no friends from there since they can't be trusted.

Oh, that's not a very healthy thing to instil in the kid either, paranoia. Hmm, maybe the point that was made earlier was the best point that was made in the whole thread. Maybe the real issue is that if stuff like this makes Jacob's life so miserable and is having such a negative effect on him, maybe it was morally wrong for his parents to force him to be a celebrity (and it's still going on!) and for people like you to collect a paycheck and beef up your resume on something the requires a kid to become a public figure against his wishes. Something to ponder.

Rap Smith: Peter, honestly the thing that saddens me here is that the producer of the show, someone who knows and interacts with the real Jake Roloff has spent the last twenty four hours demanding everyone agree wth him multiple times (did you see where I started my posting here with the comment that this facebook *should* reported and everyone SHOULD be offended...) but the one guy leading the charge, the guy who is the least likely to be accused of stalking poor Jake Roloff, is the one guy who point blank has said he won't be reporting this facebook. Really, Chris loves the kid so much he's yelling at the rest of us to do what he won't be bothered to do since its Matt's and Amy's perogotive? Really? It makes me feel sad for Jake. Has Chris even suggested that Matt and Amy report this facebook? Since bless us, he's just an innocent bystander and while it's his duty to whine at the rest of us, its certainly not his responsibility as the only friend of the family participating to actually protect this minor.

Chris Cardamone: You guys are so hilarious. I love it. When did I defend Jeremy and Mueller's behavior? I said that is on them and they might need to apologies.

What is even funnier is you all think I am Jacob's parent, I am not but a close friend.

In regards to Eric he moved on to a bigger gig that made sense for his career.

I could answer all your questions if I legally could but I am under and NDA so I can't talk about it.

I just love how I need to be "educated" about things. Do you know my scope of work? Do you know anything about me before you start attacking me and my character?

I only went after one thing - on topic in this thread - impersonating a minor. Do you know how many charitable organizations I help out every year? But as you all conjecture I am a bad person even given the countless years I have helped the needyprofessionally and personally. You guys are right you totally know me and everything about the Roloffs.

I am not even the producer of the show anymore, but you guys think I am so I guess that is true in your eyes. So sad most of you have such skewed data, I am really amazed. Please conjecture more...it really puts a gleaming shine on the uninformed arguments and issues you continually bring up. My mother told me from a young age, if you don't know truthfully about something don't say anything till you have the facts.

And to stay on topic again...this was about Jacob not Jeremy, Mueller, fan issues, or any other non sequitier you all love to perch and passively strike from. Again have a great weekend guys and stay dry :)

Derek Benj James: Chris, did you not go item by item over the issues and said you look forward to the responses? And now you're all, oh that's off topic! You sure do sound like someone that was defending Jeremy's behavior by demanding people explain how they were hurt and why an apology is in order over things that most decent people would classify as being wrong and apology worthy. You can call it conjecture all you want, but it's all true facts. Jeremy's slurs are real. Jeremy's lies about not drinking and his actual drinking is true. The Roloffs and friends like Mueller insulting fans and calling them creepers are real. That the "Cruise for Haiti" was really a 7 day luxury cruise that consisted of the Roloffs lounging on a posh cruise ship and tanning on beautiful beaches for all about half a day out of the 7 days is the truth. The cat tossing is real. Jeremy's love of JMC's church and JMC is real and it's real that it's in direct conflict to the title of speeches Amy gets paid to deliver about acceptance of diversity. You think you can say it's all conjecture because Jeremy doesn't have the courage to speak for himself and say what he does or doesn't believe even though it's very clear by what he supports. Since only friends speak for Jeremy since he refuses to do it himself, maybe Kelsey can shed some light since she attends the church with Jeremy. I know that Kelsey thinks gay people are sinners that should pray to be cured from reading her blog. Kelsey? Shed some light. Does Jeremy vehemently disagree with you when you attend church together? Right....

Chris Linton: ‎"Do you know my scope of work?" -- I know that you worked on Brat Camp before LPBW...considering the well documented behavior of the Roloff boys, I'd say that experience prepared you well for LPBW ;)

Chris Linton: Dude seriously, for someone that is now saying you aren't defending Jeremy and Mueller, you sure do have a lot of anger (covered in the "you guys are hilarious, I love it"s") for people that say they were wrong. If you aren't defending them, then this should have all been one big love fest of everyone agreeing, agreeing that the twitter fake was wrong to steal Jakeys posts even though it doesn't put him in any danger and you agreeing with everybody else that Jeremy and Mueller are characterless douche bags. But wait, you needed to go on the attack and talk about how everyone is wrong about your buddies. Then you flip back to "I didn't defend them!".

Chris Linton: One final thing for the night, I do love to be fun and sarcastic in my charming way, but if I can have my two cents about my favorite blog, SpiritsWander?

You know what the problem with journalism these days and reporting? It's all political and who knows who. The Roloffs kept going on Rachael Ray because it had the same producer connections as LPBW. So surprised none of these topics came up there! lol. It's kind of like how the local commenters for my fave hockey team are homers that are never ever critical. You know why? Because the team pays them!

The Roloffs go on those Portland morning shows and are good buddies with the hosts! Has Amy done lunch with the female host lately? Now she's good buddies with E channel's Jason Kennedy. Maybe he can do a hard hitting interview with his pal Amy.

Actually, while I'm on a role, it's kind of like the producer of a reality show becoming a very, very, very close personal friend of his subjects and expecting that personal bias to not be all over the content and quality of the show. I always got a good chuckle back in the days when Roloff fans were still in denial over Jeremy's slurs and would respond with "It's not true! Jeremy never said those things on the show!!! It's never been on the show!" LOL! I'm so surprised Chris that all that kind of stuff went on without you knowing and just somehow slipped by you on this real and raw reality show :wink wink:

Back on point, media for celebrities is corrupt. It's all about who owns who, who knows who, who is friends with who, scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. In the rare circumstances when the celebrity doesn't know the interviewer, too many times the aw struck interviewer uses the interview to strike up a personal friendship with the subject. That's not really great journalism. It takes independent people like those at SpiritsWander whose goal isn't out to be best buddies with the subjects, that still cares about reporting the truth. Spirits gives any friend of the Roloffs and any Roloff the chance to respond. It's not Spirits fault that you guys won't.

Chris Cardamone: Again sadly you miss the topic and issue again. So hilarious Chris and Derek. You guys are so classic I love it (classic on so many levels). I mean I cant describe how amusing your posts are with ZERO relevance to what this thread is about. PLEASE keep posting I really do love it, its like the funny pages

Rap Smith: Chris, if your concern was purely about Jake Roloff being inpersonated, why did you ask Christa to detail and justify her pain over the slurs Jeremy used in order to even discuss the idea? And you might want to look over your own comments - people are correct in stating you were doing point by point refutations before you decided it was off topic. Also on the topic of apologies you didn't say "they might need to" you said "In short they should apologize for certain actions as anyone should but that is not on me." Then you demanded to know who they should apologize to... then you demanded Christa justify her pain over the n-word and the gay slurs, and now you're saying they *might* need to apologize. Also, in all seriousness, unless you're the origanal poster, you're not the one who decides what's on topic in this thread. Btw, I saved a copy of the video of Mueller getting drunk in the Roloff's garage and Jeremy and Zach were both there, with Christian who is was 18? And thye were all holding drinks which means yeah, the two adults Jeremy and Zach would be on the hook for providing alcohol to minors. But I like how you threw Mueller to the wolves on that one. Btw have you told Matt and Amy about this facebook yet? So they can report it? Since you're *so* concerned that you won't be reporting it yourself? :)

Rap Smith: Oh and Chris, no one has said "Chris, you are Jake's *parent*" so please stop. What I asked you was if you are so concerned about Jake's privacy, being violated, have you reported this facebook? You said no - no one said "But Chris you are a PARENT" - what was pointed out is that you're the guy making the stink at everyone else. If you, a friend of the family, can't and won't be bothered to report the violating facebook, why should we? After all, if we do - we're pesky fans stalking and shoving ourselves into Matt and Amy's business. You're the only one here who knows the identity theft victim and you're point blank said you don't intend to report it.... so if you're that unconcerned, why are you yelling at everyone to respect Jake's privacy? Its not like *you're* his dad and you've made it clear you have no intention of doing anything so what exactly is your point here?

Jen Montzingo: Hey Chris Cardamone, at your convenience, please fill me in on why I am getting brought into this conversation. It popped up on my google alerts. I never posted anything negative about the Roloffs online. My name was getting brought up on Spirits Wanderer site so I merely responded to the query and SW decided to post it. Nothing was ever said against the Roloffs or any kind of negativity toward them at all. So when you're posting that "I'm not close friends with them and I don't have the information", I'm confused why I'm even looped into this conversation whatsoever. I've never posted on behalf of them with any kind of "scoop" whatsoever. Thanks for your time and energy.

Rap Smith: Jen, Derek Benj James brought up your name while discussing the Roloff family's dislike of the Spiritwanders blog and Chris's assertion that Spirit is apparently untrustworthy because Spirit doesn't use their real name. Derek's point was that you and Dan Meichtry (sp) were both interviewed by Spirit and made no claims that you were treated badly. Chris Cardamone's comment to that was "Given that Dan and Jen aren't super close Roloffs friends I can confirm they don't have the pulse of the family or can give quantitatively truthful answers about the Roloffs" - the entire passage is still here to look at. My *impression* is that those of us who would like to see an interview of a Roloff on the Spirit site are being duped by both you, and Dan (both who was presented on the show as close friends but I am not shocked to discover a reality show producer backpedalling about the "truth" he was presenting) because neither of you know the Roloffs well enough to make honest comments. I for one have always found you positively presenting the Roloffs, despite the reality that being on the show has led some of the more crazed "pro Roloff pro Christian" fans to attack you. I wouldn't be so kind in your shoes.

Derek Benj James: Hi Jen, like Rap said I did bring your name up. Chris Cardamone said the Roloffs won't interview with SpiritsWander because Chris and the Roloffs think that Spirits is unethical and would be dishonest or twist the Roloffs answers.

My point was that Spirits has a track record. An interview with Dan. He thanked Spirits for having integrity and not twisting his words. You obviously relayed answers to Spirits to respond to comments people were making about your life, your career and your opinions on social issues. You've never said that Spirits twisted your words. My other point to Chris Cardamone about that is that I hardly think it matters if SpiritsWander said their name was Sally Smith or Mike Jones or Abdul Khan. The Roloffs just use that as an excuse to avoid being asked tough questions.

Derek Benj James: I also love when friends of Jeremy, like Chris, respond to people having an opinion on Jeremy with "Have you ever asked Jeremy face to face about his views on homosexuality?

Um…..duh, no Chris. That's WHY people want him to do an interview with non Matt Roloff employees!!!!

Because it's understood that most of the public do not have the opportunity to meet the said public figure in person. (B) Even if I did, Jeremy does not speak to lowly fans/viewers of LPBW (creepers as Roloffs call them) . (C) I am sure if I did seek out Jeremy in person to ask him about his views on homosexuality as Chris implied I should do, I have no dobut that Matt and Jeremy would then accuse me of being a crazy stalker.

When people form an opinion of Jeremy views based on his use of gay slurs (fact) without ever apologizing or saying he was wrong , his affection and support of a Church that is vocal in its discrimination and teaching of unacceptance of a diversity group and then the suspicious detail that most of Jeremy's friends he surrounds himself with in Hillsboro like Dan and Kelsey, the people he attends the church with both echo the sentiment that they don't accept gay people, that gay people are sinners who should pray to Jesus to change. When people reach a conclusion about Jeremy based on that and conclude he's a hypocrite for collecting a pay check for a show that promoted itself as a Pro-Diversity show that taught acceptance of people who are different from the majority, then Chris says, it's all conjecture and people need to ask Jeremy himself about his views….but that's the kicker! Jeremy won't interview and refuses to be a man speak for himself. Nice logic Chris.

Interesting Amy Roloff / Jen Montzingo Debate About Kim Kardashian And Reality TV

2011-11-02T14:49:00.016-06:00

On Amy Roloff's fan Facebook page she posted: "Ok, have to ask and see if I'm just totally in left field on this. Kind of embarrassed to ask. What are your thoughts on the whole sad Kim Kardashian Chris Humphrey situation? She asking for divorce after 72 days?"

However, there is another conversation that several people have emailed about which was somewhat surprising and is garnering some attention. It was an online exchange between Amy Roloff and Jen Montzingo that appears to have turned rather personal by the end of it. It was regarding Amy's very harsh opinion of the Kardashians and judging them as being sellouts and selling personal family moments on a reality show for attention. Jen, who seemingly has met the Kardashians during her time in LA, asked Amy to not judge them just as the Amy asks people not to judge her family.

Usually anything the Roloffs say is met with agreement by people they actually know (the Roloffs have been accused of surrounding themselves with "yes men" types), so it's interesting to see how Amy reacted to someone disagreeing with her. It appeared to turn rather personal and a bit nasty.

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Jen Montzingo: What does it say about US when we rejoice or laugh at another's misfortune? Kim Kardashian or anyone else. Please people. It's not funny

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Amy Roloff: Are you kidding me? Kim K and Chris marriage is over? When will people realize watching shows like this is ridiculous.

Molly: gosh darn reality tv

Amy: No it's not a surprise but.... to spend that kind of money, receive that kind of money when you had doubt to begin with is just sad all around. Where that kind of money could be doing instead of on a dress, cake and all of the other stuff just to keep your self at that level in the media and everyone watches

Amy: and yes some reality shows work, are worth watching ... LOL

Jen: they didn't receive the money, they were comped it in trade-outs. people wanted to watch and they had the ratings. I'm not saying I'm a huge fan of the show, but amy...isn't that biting the hand that feeds you? ;) xo

Amy: Jen - no it's not. You crack me up. Of course it was trade outs, of course they got paid but they also chose to sell a personal event at all cost for PR and get paid more huge amounts of money. It's personal family business greed. Don't even compare it to a few good reality shows still left worthy to watch

Jen: Amy- I'm not saying I'm a fan of their show necessarily but I do know from personal experience that they are good people at heart. We have no idea to what levels they donate or tithe -- I know they are very involved in the church I teach at-- I just try not to judge people as reality shows only tell part of the story. If you guys were offered $12 million to air a wedding special who knows what you would choose. Its easy for all of us to say we wouldn't take it until we are actually offered it. ;) As you ask others not to judge your family, I would echo the same for them. :).

Amy: Oh Jen, not judging. Let's be real, no one knows the whole story that is true. History dictates. Someone who is 'married' for just 72 days knows what's up. Whether she tithes or not is not the point. This was business on so many levels, maybe not with all parties - I hardly doubt it - but to toss away the entity of marriage like she did ......... Family PR business. Let's call it for what it is and everyone stop pretending. You make this kind if $$ it's known. Maybe not details but you are ready. This was not a naive situation.

Jen: Hey Amy, I really don't know. All I know in life is that I don't know and until I walk in your/her shoes, prefer not to judge. So until I know, I reserve judgment of any kind. Obviously, mistakes were made -- who knows exactly where and when and what the timeframe was. But, I know for fact she went into it thinking it would work out. Naive, probably. The same could be said about so many other issues in life -- adultery, DUI, theft -- everyone wants to talk and nobody except the parties involved really know the true details. And I think the "tithing" is relevant since you mentioned the family was greedy for accepting that kind of money to "sell an event." Is it wise to air a wedding on national tv? Probably not. Perhaps the public embarrassment when everything unravels is lesson enough in that. "Family PR business" is at the heart of every family reality show, yours included. The moment anyone signs the dotted line and is getting paid to air their personal life, it becomes a business, and as you say, unfortunately that can really skew things interpersonally at times.

Amy: Well obviously in thoughts and situations like thus we will never agree completely. When you want the public to buy inti what you are doing, have businesses, making the money you do an adult being naive will take you so far. Be real about it own up to it as best you can. Why go into a discussion when all you want to do us have a neutral non essential opinion. Ok this is done. Thanks Jen.

Jen: LOL ok. I have an opinion, even if it is "neutral non-essential" - but if I'm not allowed to have it about your show, then I can't have it about theirs either. Just trying to be fair. ;) Good debate Amy, all in fun.

Amy: Jen, your mistaken, i never said you couldn't have an opinion or on our show - funny how it comes back to that! You've obviously have stated your opinion on our show many times and else where. It's one of those times that opinions will differ even on the original subject. Yes LOL!

Amy: Oops. I broke my own thought. Need to be done on this.

Jen: Haha okay, have a good night. You can take this whole post down if you want. I've never stated anything but positive on your show online, let's clarify that though.

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Amy: On to a lighter note, reality can still be a good venue to tell some really good stories. With all of the hype out there on some, the good stories get lost or don't get picked up which is unfortunate.

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What are your thoughts?

Misleading Or Neglected Facts From The Little People, Big World/ Roloff Family Update Special

2011-10-08T22:56:00.025-06:00

The television episodes of Little People, Big World often makes the viewers curious for more information. As a result they take to the internet to search for more information on what was presented in the TV episode.

So for the benefit of those people -- we have compiled a list of certain things shown or presented on the Little People, Big World update special that aired Oct 2nd, 2011.

Since in our time covering the Roloffs, we have sort of developed a reputation for "Keeping them Honest" regarding the Roloffs and letting followers of the Roloffs know the untruths people are told and/or what the story really is -- here is our list.

Matt and Amy Roloff have often promoted the show as being "real and raw" and "warts and all" That's not true of course.

So for people who might not follow the Roloffs closely and were out of the loop -- the "update" special did not contain many real events in the lives of the Roloffs since they were last on TLC and several things were not the way they really happened.

In no particular order, here is a list of things that were shown in the episode that were misleading or things that were neglected completely. Many fans often thank the Roloffs for sharing their lives and seem to think of themselves as friends or distance relatives and viewed the "Update special" in the same way that an old friend that you see again might tell you what has been happening with the family. That's the way some fans think, but not reality - as many things were not mentioned.

Keep in mind, that the special was actually mostly filmed during the summer of 2011, granted it was a day or two here and there.

*Jeremy receiving his acceptance letter to Brooks Photography -- That of course was a staged scene. First viewers should know that Brooks is a for profit school - so the reputation is that if you pay, you are in. However, to the point, Jeremy was actually accepted to Brooks in November of 2010. And the truth might surprise you. Friends report that Jeremy was originally luke warm on the idea originally. Jeremy took a long time to commit. But he was indeed accepted in Nov 2010 after the show had been cancelled and filming had wrapped up for Season 6. Obviously the scene of Jeremy going down to the mailbox, breaking the news to Amy and the subsequent "breaking the news to the family" at dinner was all staged for the benefit of the cameras.

*The final "emotional" scenes of Jeremy driving off the farm with the rest of the Roloffs standing on the driveway waving goodbye and Jeremy shown unpacking by himself in Santa Barbara.

Once again that was staged and misleading,As many others have noted, Amy documented the real sequence of events on her public Facebook page as it occurred. Matt is sticking to a story that says "Jeremy did drive off by himself, Amy joined him later that evening" -- you can decide for yourself how plausible the logistics of that notion is (that Jeremy drove off for Santa Barbara on his own...only to somehow stop and wait for Amy to join him in the VW bus for the rest of the trip...) but the point is Amy's Facebook on the actual day tells a different story from the misleading episode. A viewer watching the episode thinks Jeremy drove from Roloff Farm to Santa Barbara by himself. He did not. Amy was with him. She Facebook posted about their trip. About stopping in a Super 8. About riding in Jeremy's VW bus. Amy said she was there to help get Jeremy settled and cooked him his first meal in his new place. None of this was alluded to in the episode. Viewers were left with the impression that Jeremy did it all on his own.

The following were some of Amy's public Facebook Fan Page posts while it was happening.

Aug 25
Road tripping with Jer down to Santa Barbara for college. He's going to do great!

Aug 27
Leaving Redding CA. After long drive, VW van stalled over heated, got over the mountains late, arrived 2:30am. One hotel full, another full ... Really? Fun fun road trip.

Aug 27
Yes, at 2:30am who cares, it's a bed! :). On the road again .... To Santa Barbara

Aug 28
Jers first dinner in his apt! I love to cook. Love that boy!

Aug 29
Just got back to Hillsboro or. I had a great time with Jeremy and hoping I started him off to a good start in his apt. Will miss him! Now it's time to see how my other kids - including Matt :) - are doing.

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So as you can see, the TV audience that believe what the Roloffs portrayed on the show to be the truth were indeed fooled. Jeremy did not make the trek from Hillsboro to Santa Barbara on his own as a reasonable person watching the episode would conclude when they watched the family -- including Amy - wave good bye to Jeremy. He did not arrive and unpack alone in Santa Barbara. As per Amy - she was with him the whole time, helping getting him settled and cooking him his first meal in his apartment.

Whether this is significant or not is up for debate, but the fact is what was depicted was not reality and there were several different times in the episode where the Roloffs were indeed flat out acting for the camera.

*Neglected -- Some television viewers believe that the episode did as it promised -- caught them up to date on what has been happening in the lives of the Roloffs since the show went off TLC airways in December of 2010. If you are one of those people that haven't kept up with what has really been happening (and in fairness, there hasn't been very many significant changes -- any big changes didn't happen until the last few months). But here are some significant happenings in the Roloffs lives that they neglected to share with the TV audience.

*Jacob Roloff being expelled or in Amy's own words on a coffee chat -- "If you want to say he was kicked out, fine, yes he was kicked out" of Faith Bible Christian school. The trusting television viewers that don't research online would assume that nothing major happened with Jacob since about the only time in the episode he was discussed or featured was in the discussion about names. By the way, this is something that both Matt and Amy discussed themselves on their Facebook pages and Amy in her live coffee chats that she did on Fridays during the spring.

However, we can tell you that since the airing of the episode, more and more people have heard the news as "Jacob Roloff Expelled" has been a hot keyword topic for many months. Jacob was expelled in April 2011. It left Matt and Amy scrambling. First, they both expressed anger towards Faith Bible for actually following through and "kicking" Jacob out of school so close to the end of grade 8. Matt then vented on Facebook that he has always hated "that school" (Faith Bible -- Molly currently attends). After originally saying they were going to home school Jacob, they had Jacob take a state test that determined it was alright for him to begin in 9th grade in September if he improved slightly in some areas. He went briefly to a local tutoring facility for a few hours a day for a month or so. And now he attends a large public school in the area. Some students at the school (keep in mind that now that he goes to a public school, some of the students were viewers of the show) have said the sentiment seems to be more that people think it's cool to have a famous person going to the school than kids tormenting him about the show.

*The lack of Jacob Mueller -- Except for a brief shot of Mueller at the party and swinging with Jeremy on the tire -- the lack of emphasis on Mueller's involvement with Jeremy and the Roloffs in general was notable. As others have pointed out, Mueller went with the Roloffs in the RV from Roloff Farm to Anaheim, California as this picture depicts.

Television viewers were left to believe it was a Roloff family trip only -- and from Roloff Farm to Brooks. It was not. The majority of the trip was spent with the Roloffs partying at the LPA National Conference in Anaheim (feel free to search our archives for reports from the LPA conference re: the Roloffs behavior). At the end of the week, Mueller went off to visit family in California and the Roloffs zipped down to Santa Barbara to film them visiting Brooks Photography Institute. Amy and Jeremy had already visited Brooks previously, and readers of Matt's Facebook page might recall Matt posting about his trip with Jeremy to California quite a while ago. So the filmed visit to Brooks was not the first time the Roloffs had been to Brooks.

It is true that Mueller and Jeremy spent most summer days with each other. The lack of Mueller in the special does not depict reality. Even viewers of Amy's coffee chats in the summer are aware of that, since Mueller was either seen or referenced as being at the Roloffs or with Jeremy several times. Television viewers aren't left with any clue about just how involved Mueller is with Jeremy and the Roloff family.

*Neglecting to mention that Zach and Jeremy each have a girlfriend. Tori and Audrey respectively. Fans are always interested in stuff like that. However, real life personal relationships is an area that the Roloffs clamped down on several seasons ago. Both girls were at the "Going away party" for Jeremy that was filmed for the episode, but they were far in the background and there was no mention on the show of them being girlfriends. If you want to get to know Jeremy's girlfriend and an idea of what she's like -- she has her own public blog where she's doing one of the 'Get to know me' Challenges.

http://aujpoj.blogspot.com/2011/10/audrey-mirabella-botti.html

*Jeremy's enthusiasm for the Solid rock Church and their lead Pastor John Mark Comer. Jeremy's (and to a a slightly lesser degree - Molly) affection for the rather controversial, very "traditional" and conservative church in Portland -- which among other controversial stances - teaches that gay people are sinners going to Hell unless they pray to Jesus to be cured of their "perversion". This church has been a major part of Jeremy's life (and the entire Roloff family has attended, although Jeremy was the driving force) -- over the past couple of years but has never been alluded to on the television show at all. Cynics conclude it's because the beliefs they support are in direct contrast to the overall message of acceptance for people with differences which often are the organizations and group that pay money to Matt and Amy Roloff in their roles as paid Diversity Speakers and the "equality" message is what TLC has used to promote LPBW in the past.

*The Roloffs lawsuit against Washington County -- The Roloffs are suing Washington County for $200,000 in damages for alleged "severe emotional stress" suffered by Amy Roloff regarding the "inspector/ark incident that was filmed and aired in a Season 6 episode of LPBW. The Roloffs have been very quiet publicly about the lawsuit and it was never mentioned on the update special.

Live Feed Of Roloff Farms For Matt's 50th Birthday Celebration

2011-10-08T15:41:00.002-06:00

As promised, Matt has a live feed (Saturday afternoon/evening October 8th) showing Roloff Farm during the celebration of Matt's 50th birthday. It's a silent camera just showing the field where people buy pumpkins.

Streaming Live by Ustream

Frequently Asked Question Recently

2011-10-05T19:37:00.004-06:00

This isn't related to the Roloffs, but just a quick post because some readers were asking just to make sure, or for anyone interested, since we have frequently reported on some of Jen Montzingo's on blog topics that are discussed here and Jen was kind enough to respond to comments and some rather nasty criticisms of her by some posters to our site a couple of months ago.

So yes, that is indeed Jen Montzingo's brother, Peet on the new show with Simon Cowell -- X Factor USA.

In one of her videos explaining that she was always interested in becoming an actress or a career in Hollywood, she referenced that one of her brother's had no interest in it, while the other shared her dream. That brother is now on X Factor -- Peet Montzingo.

In this clip about his audition on X Factor, they discuss Peet being the only average height member in his family.

Little People, Big World Special -- Roloff Family Returns To TLC: Review

2011-10-02T18:18:00.005-06:00

Our guest reviewer Rap541 will review the episode of Little People, Big World. All opinions and statements are that of Rap.

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So when last we met, the twins were twenty and had decided to live at home rather than move out because well, it was easier. Matt and Amy were considering selling the farm and didn’t. Kate Gosselin and Sarah Palin were still popular.

It’s actually over a year later. Hurrah! Rumor has it that TLC insisted that any filmed specials be aired soon after filming which is a significant difference from before. Watching this rerun where Jer blithely ignores dad’s resume advice… ah what a spoiled mess. And Matt’s nicely negative about how the twins are spoiled messes but only in hay bale confessionals. Watching Matt lecture Jer and Jer be all “whatever” is hilarious. So is Jer-Bear whining about everything being online. Jer looking at the camera and bemoaning not having his SSN and why does anyone need that? HAHAHA Jeremy is such a go-getter!

And Matt spends most of these reruns bitching how irresponsible the twins are! And Jer telling Matt how he doesn’t need him… so respectful and its 2010 :D. Oh and Jer telling his mom to trot her ass to the kitchen and its 2010 and Jer telling his mom he’s not gonna stop disrespecting her while Matt says nothing! Oh YEAH. Matt? Amy says “her poor twenty year old boy….” *you* said all the occurrences of Jer snotting off on camera took place six years ago. Matt? Hand on the Bible… is your wife a *liar*?

One of the most amusing aspects of the rerun is watching Jer manfully talk about getting a job in 2010 when we all know he was still jobless, oh forgive me, “working for daddy” before his big man move to Cali.

Oh man, my friend has freshly made ravioli that she just brought in and she’s offering it to me but I am here and the new show starts and by the time the show is done, there will be no fresh ravioli for Rap! AND I am missing Animation Domination! Oh wait, Blue Crow is offering to hold some of the ravioli back for me! Woo! So there will be a review after all!

Wow the last episode was kinda cloying. Still like the words to the song tho.
New Special!

Btw I like how the rare commercials are mentioning that the perfect never have problems Roloffs were indeed considering divorce.

And we start right off with DIVORCE talk. Amy notes that it came up a LOT in the last five or six years that oddly enough seems to run concurrent with the reality show. Amy? There’s this Kate bitch who needs a new man…. Also didn’t Matt tell a completely different story about how happy they are?

Matt hay bales how everything is great, they aren’t selling the farm and he’s buying property. Amy notes how he whines how he is going to die early. Yes Amy, we’ve all picked up that whine too. As I recall, he was going on in 2009 that he would need spinal surgery within six months and was probably going to be in a wheel chair so take it as you will, Amy. You live with him after all.

At the same time, this scene in the mule on the farm seems very carefully staged. As in something thought very carefully about how they were going to chat on the mule.

New Credits. Not really that different. More shirtless Jer.

Jer’s on the mule, unshaven. On the hay bale he is clean shaven. Nice to see that TLC will never fail to mess up continuity this way. He lies to the camera that he’s waiting on his acceptance and then stages a scene about receiving the acceptance letter that he got in November of 2010. Wasn’t this filmed in August 2011, almost a year after Jeremy’s acceptance? He and Amy hug. Amy whines about the empty nest., Jeremy is ready to party. Was it really necessary to lie about this? I mean, it actually is rather unusual to get your acceptance letter “weeks” before you head off to school. It just adds an unnecessary extra moment of fake to the whole business.

Now we have a family dinner where Jeremy announces his acceptance. Again, its obviously staged to where even Amy notes his flat affect. Zach expresses surprise. Matt notes publicly on camera that Jeremy will fail and cry for his mom. Amy turns this all into “What is Zach doing” which is kinda assy. Btw I think this is the first family dinner that had Jeremy and didn’t have Mueller that we have ever seen on this show. Interesting.

Matt worries that the farm will quiet down without Jer. Now another staged scene where Amy and Matt sit on the porch and discuss it. I mean really, on the one hand the hay bales come off a bit real, with people expressing emotions but the actual “real scenes” seem fake… especially Matt’s “We did it!”. None of the Roloffs are actors, and yes, it shows.

So now we’re going on an RV trip that was actually in what, July? Wasn’t this to the LPA Con? Didn’t Mueller go? Why present a lie? Matt makes nice to the dog. Matt’s office and really the whole house is a total sty so nothing has changed. I wonder if they let the maid go since there’s been no filming.

No scenes of Jacob Mueller who was on the road trip with them because Jeremy has issues being away from his male friends for any length of time but since this is “the big boy going to away school“ I guess focusing on the codependency is a lil too real.

The green shirt Jeremy wears while driving is very girly… I wonder if Mueller picked it out. Also the 20 questions game seemed staged for the cameras.

Now we have Santa Barbara…. It seems nice. Jeremy expresses his love of playing on the beach. Matt does another weird fake shout “Welcome home!”. They stop at the beach to play Frisbee for the cameras. Matt pointedly asks Zach his opinion of Jeremy leaving and Zach is totally disinterested and walks away. I think since the entire point of this line of questioning is to point out what a loser he is and to push him to get the hell out too, I suspect he’s just embarrassed. This line of questioning is repeated constantly. Amy expresses her plan to freak out and walk away as well. Matt hay bales how they will rediscover themselves and there’s a family photo op. Is rediscover code for divorce? Because for a loving couple who were awesome per Matt, these two don’t seem like love birds.

Still no Mueller. Now Jeremy is on tour with his family at his new school. Jeremy hay bales how he’s learning his craft. Amy does most of the talking and notes she thinks his ideal job is to work for National Geographic. Jer hay bales a lot of nonsense about photography. He notes how if it all doesn’t work out he will live in his new van for two weeks - as opposed to his two BMWs.

Now they look at a studio apartment. Jeremy notes how Zach must be sad and thinking about his future. Personally I think Zach was bored as hell. Also its rather hilarious how Matt and Amy keep asking Zach how he feels about Jeremy leaving… I mean honestly I kinda don’t think Zach much really cares one way or another. He looks like he wants to gnaw off his leg as Amy interrogates him.

Oh the Madonna Inn. I bet they were comped. Its cool, but its not the Bahamas. Its not even the Gobbler. Guess the budget didn’t go too far!

So we get an extensive tour of the Inn. Amy and Matt have steaks and stage a scene for us. Now Amy goes on again about the kids being around. Now we get the kids staging a scene for us as well. Honestly this is like watching paint dry. Zach does note that they are behind the curve. Jeremy notes that he’s totally happy with living like a lump at home for two years. He does not think he’s behind the curve at all. Well, you keep thinking that, Jeremy!

Back to Matt and Amy, and Amy whining about her empty nest. Again. Matt wants to rediscover her. Matt openly prods her to describe memories for the camera and she does. Amy hay bales how she’s probably still considering divorce but not saying it. They force a kiss. The Madonna Inn is so delightfully tacky!

Amy yells at Jeremy and he snits back to her, probably because she’s a woman and he knows better than a woman. Jeremy notes its too much for his pretty little head to deal with and manfully rubs his brow. Jeremy then shovels hay and tells us about the third car he wants to buy.

There’s a party being planned on camera. Amy and Matt argue about work. Matt notes how they all suck at driving as he’s never crashed a mule. Oh hey, we need to kill some time so we’re staging a race on the mules like you know, on a sitcom. Perhaps in the next special, Amy and Matt will put masking tape lines on the floor to separate the house during their trial seperation.

This is so cheesy. So they race, Molly does not rip off her top to start them properly. Amy wins and Matt immediately whines.

Oh look the prep for one of Matt’s Beer Bonfires. Jeremy and Zach stage a scene at the fire. About how weird it will be to spend more than ten seconds apart. No beer? But the twins are twenty one! Jeremy who is afraid of and who hates computers admits texting every day. The nattering between them would be interesting if I wasn’t entirely certain they needed a scene here. “Pray for me” is perhaps the first time we’ve heard anything religious from Jer. I am wondering if we’ll get to see the Jesusmobile’s front or not.

Oh the tear filled tire swing scene. Matt thinks Jeremy should be packing tools to take. He notes how important it is to rehang the tire and how deep it is and Matt weeps for the cameras while Jeremy looks on with dead, bored eyes. Honestly if you can’t remember why it was taken down, it wasn’t that important to you. Matt wanders off, weeping, Jeremy looks like he wants the whole business to be done and checks the box with a “love you”.

Zach on the mower! The DIXIE MOWER! Now we’re having a party to send Jer off to Iraq.

There’s a symbolic rehanging of the tire swing that was probably taken down because the kids were all too old to play with it but we needed a deep family scene to show Jeremy reconnecting with his family for ONE LAST TIME. Since you know, he’s dying and the Roloffs love drama. We get Matt’s philosophy that the tire swing was his entire inspiration for the entire farm… even though he has no idea how or why it came down but gosh darn it it’s the most important thing ever!

Matt gives an endless speech to the crowd. Then Amy. Amy makes it clear she wants all the kids to continue playing at their house despite Jeremy being gone because it makes her feel cool. Jeremy looks bored. Now we have a scene of Frisbee shirtless to provide the T&A. Amy waxes on how it’s a good way to end, to have a great last memory because Jeremy is apparently also dying. Geez…. Its not like he’s not coming home for Matt’s filmed birthday, the next planned special. I think perhaps one of the Roloff family’s problems is their tendency to over dramatize things.

So Jeremy needs mommy to wake his ass up out of his filthy bedroom. Because, you know, he is a twenty one year old child who still can’t figure out how to use an alarm clock or plan ahead. Mom is making him breakfast because well, she’s his servant. Amy hay bales how she hides her emotions and portrays herself as tough. Jeremy is “pumped”. Amy takes pictures. Apparently everyone needs to have their picture taken.

Jeremy waxes philosophically on how he wants to be a good person. Jer, a little hint - it involves actually acting decent, not just saying you’re a Christian. Another hint? If a friend suggests photographing cat tossing, people will think you’re an asshole if you actually take pictures. Another hint? Just because you’re white and Christian, its not ok to slur Jews, Mexicans, African Americans, Asians, the mentally challenged, homosexuals, or any other group you have less than amusing names for.

We get more and more pictures and hugs. And its staged as though Jeremy takes off into the great big world by himself but in fact Amy went with him. “Thank you Jesus” on the van was, much like Mueller’s presence in the RV, or Amy’s presence IN THE VAN (folks she face booked the whole trip) was nicely kept hidden.

Matt weeps that his major-me is gone as we get more staged driving scenes. Matt breaks down as he will never see his son again. Amy hay bales that she loves her kids. We get a montage of Jer vacationing. Funny how the cameras totally hid the fact that Jeremy took his mommy with him on his manly drive into the future. Why is that? I mean, in reality, Amy rode down with Jeremy to Santa Barbara… why was that hidden?

So to sum up, Zach was thrown under the bus repeatedly, the Roloffs per Amy *were* considering divorce, Jeremy openly faked a scene receiving his acceptance letter in summer when it’s known that it was November of 2010, Jake’s expulsion wasn’t mentioned, the beer bonfires weren’t mentioned, and for some strange reason Matt and Amy and Jeremy lied out right about Jeremy driving down to Santa Barbara by himself.

Nicely done, Roloffs! Now for fresh ravioli and Terra Nova on DVR.

TLC's Preview of Little People, Big World Roloff Family Special: Moving Out

2011-10-01T17:48:00.002-06:00

TLC has posted a clip from the special that airs Sunday Oct 2nd at 8pm on TLC. In this clip, Matt and Jeremy get emotional over Jeremy being on the verge of leaving home for the first time (to go to College at Brooks Institute of Photography in Santa Barbara, California.

Matt Roloff Audio Interview With A Fatherhood/parenting Blog

2011-09-27T11:23:00.005-06:00

Matt did an radio/audio interview with Jim Higley who has a blog called Bobblehead Dad.

You can listen to the interview:

http://ht.ly/6G7FG

It's a 30 minute audio interview, so we summarize it.

*Matt explains the end of the show. Matt still claims they talked to TLC about taking an extended break. He says he thinks TLC decided to announce or cancel it at the end because the Roloffs were talking about wanting to take a break and they didn't know how long that would be, and the contract was expired, so it was easier to just say it was cancelled instead of people asking what's going on, "so it was either to say the show was stopped or cancelled or whatever". It bears noting that this is the first time Matt has ever used the word "cancelled" as it relates to the end of the show.

**Again, Matt's version is not what our sources say. Declining ratings were a factor as well as the Roloffs being difficult to work with (our sources report that a prominent producer was let go because of a dispute with a Roloff) and the Roloffs increasing demands both financially and in wanting more and more control of editing, Matt and Amy having producing credits were a factor - everything became a fight re: editing because the Roloffs wanted control over how they were portrayed)**

*Matt says since the announcement of the cancellation was made, they were in frequent talks for some specials. **Again, our sources made it clear to us that it was Matt that approached TLC and initiated the talk about the specials. **

*Matt says it's kind of like when someone retires and decided that they miss what they did.

*Matt said after it was cancelled TLC had some ideas about different formats.

*He says the show was stressful on the family and they started to lose perspective on who they were and their relationships.

*They talk about the heavy filming schedule through the show's history. Matt explains that filming was going five to six days a week and a crew of two 12-hour shifts. A crew would come in at say 7am and then they would overlap with another crew that would go until midnight. That was a constant cycle. They did that 11 months a year. They were doing 48 episodes a year and an average episode takes 2 weeks of filming content.

*Matt talks about how he had a full time job at the beginning of the show. He says the funny thing was he took another job during the break between seasons because they needed to wait to hear if TLC wanted another season.

*Matt's asked about his fans. He says even the fans that hate them are intrigued by them. He says "some fans are smart but some don't understand that they mature and will talk about things that happened six years like 'I remember the time when Jeremy talked back...'...yeah but I haven't seen that in years".

*The host talks about how they originally watched for the dwarfism factor but that went away so quickly. Matt says that's what they are proudest about.

*He says the fans are so committed to us. He says his Facebook is bigger than ever. Matt says it's frustrating when people pick apart their mistakes and warts, but that's part of life. He says what is frustrating is if they capture on camera you scolding your son or daughter, and then later you have a tender moment, sometimes they don't show both moments. So the audience is only judging half of the story.

*Matt states the going forward they've told TLC they can have 40 days of filming in a one year span. So TLC is picking what days they want to film. Matt says he thinks when he's doing something with Jacob, he finds himself thinking, "This would make a great scene, they should be filming this!" then he thinks 'Matt, what are you thinking!?!'

*He's asked about the kids and an update.

*Jeremy has left the farm. That's the first episode. It's very dramatic. Matt says he had such a hard time. Matt says he kept bawling talking about Jeremy leaving the farm. He hopes TLC will be kind to him in the editing and only show a few tears. But Matt says the reality is that Jeremy leaving was very difficult for Matt, but in a happy way. Matt says it's a huge milestone.

*So Matt says the first episode is all about Jeremy going to photography school in Santa Barbara an "we got him set up in a little apartment and it's about him getting squared away there", and packing up and leaving some stuff at home, knowing he can come back, but at the same time it will never be the same.

*Zach still lives at home and has a steady girlfriend. Matt says Zach is picking up the pieces and helping out. Matt also says Zach is stepping out of Jeremy's shadow because now he has all the friends coming around and now they come over to see him as opposed to coming to hang out with Jeremy. Zach is still going to PCC but Matt says Amy is pushing Zach to transfer to a 4 year college.

*They talk about it being amazing to see new parts of their kids personality. Matt says they think it's amazing how God worked it out that Jeremy would leave first to give Zach the chance to live without the shadow of his brother. Matt says is was very valuable to have Jeremy all those years as inspiration and know Jeremy has stepped away to let Zach have his place -- whether it's 2 months or a year or 2 years.

*Molly's grades are incredible. Matt says Molly is receiving letters from the Dean's of Harvard and Yale, etc, encouraging her to apply. She's a leader on the volleyball team.

*Jacob - Matt says Jacob was going through a rough time, but his mom (Peggy) says if this is Jacob's roughest time you've got it made, because you should have seen your roughest time. Matt says they got him out of the old school and into a public high school. Matt says in the last 6 months Jacob has matured and grown, Matt says he has never seen a kid evolve in such a good way so quickly with a change in the environment he's in and the friends that he's around

**Actually friends tell us Jacob still spends the majority of his time with the 20 something friends of Jeremy and Zach and the high schoolers that are Molly's age -- some readers of our site are becoming familiar with Christian (the friend that was in the video doing shots with Mueller in the Roloff garage) hangs out with Jacob a lot too. **

*Matt claims that Jacob is excited and ready to go back **Again that is the exact opposite of what we're told...**

*Matt says Jacob is doing amazing and his grades are amazing.

*The host says he attributes to Matt and Amy stepping back and taking a hold of their lives. Matt says that's how they feel.

*Matt feels enough people will tune into the specials that want to hear the continuation of their story and Matt thinks they'll be really pleased. They get back to being normal people. Matt says they don't have a desire to be actors and take acting classes.

*Matt talks about his 50th Birthday on Oct 7th. Everybody is invited. They're having free parking.

*What is Matt thinking as he's at 50? He doesn't want to leave any projects unfinished and how many more he can do. He wants to evaluate what else he can accomplish in life. Matt says he has 10 more really good healthy years, so he is trying to plan the rest of his life out.

Matt Roloff States TLC Has 40 Days A Year For Filming Little People Big World Specials - Interview

2011-09-24T01:21:00.006-06:00

As Matt Roloff posted about on his Facebook page a few weeks ago, he has done several interviews with Internet Blogs in the last month.

Due to Matt and/or his staff often erroneously suggesting that the Roloffs are open to all interviews and don't duck interviews; we still receive inquiries from readers asking us the status on our interview invitation to all or any of:

Matt Roloff

Amy Roloff

Jeremy Roloff

Zach Roloff

Molly Roloff

Jacob Mueller

The answer is absolutely nothing has changed. None of the people listed above have taken us up on the invitation for an interview. Feel free to call that ducking interviews if you wish.

However, we do feel the need to point out that whenever Matt or his staff go to great lengths on their own to stress that the Roloffs are open to doing all interviews and are open to 'tough' questions -- you should know that they are being deceptive with those statements and they simply are not true. Even to the point where Amy Roloff broke promises and agreements after her representatives had arranged an interview for her with us and we had already fulfilled our end of the agreement.

Of course, in fairness to the Roloffs, it is totally their prerogative to do interviews with whom they wish or to avoid whatever interviews they want. However to keep on making statements that they do not duck interviews and are open to all -- is deceptive and not truthful.

Anyhow, one of Matt's interviews appears on the site Technorati. I don't believe they have covered the Roloffs much, if it all, before this interview.

Anyway, here are some of the things discussed in the interview:

*Matt states that TLC has 40 days in a one year span to do the specials. In the article it refers to the "new season", but as we were first to report, it is actually 4 specials that are planned to be spread out over the next year or so.

*Matt talks about buying the farm next to their own farm, after the owner passed away. He states that some of the benefits are that it gives the Roloffs plenty of room so they won't annoy one another and more parking for pumpkin season.

*Matt was asked about any events coming up; Matt discussed pumpkin season and $2.00 parking. Matt states it's only $0.50 cents per person for a family of four. The parking charge was something that was new last year after previously being free. The added charge ruffled a few feathers with customers and Matt and his restaurant owner friend, referred to on Facebook as Pondo, mocked the money conscious Roloff customers as "cheap bastards" in a series of posts directed at each other on Matt's Facebook Fan Page.

*Matt was asked about the kids growing up with the pressure of being on television. Matt obviously says his kids are amazing and have done incredibly well. He says they ignore fandom. That part is somewhat true. The Roloff kids don't acknowledge fans for the most part (other then to privately call them "creepers" with friends like Jacob Mueller) -- with some notable exceptions -- some regular readers of our site will be familiar with the Mackenzie family. They were fans of the show that purchased some of the auction items at Amy's first charity event. We have been told by objective sources that they are nice people, however they are very wealthy and have offered members of the Roloff to join them on free vacations. So it could be fair to say that some Roloffs don't ignore fandom if the fans are wealthy enough to make it worth it to the Roloffs.

On another note about the specials: Some have asked us about the kids feelings on the specials. We can tell you that friends of the Roloffs have recently told us that Jacob absolutely hates the show and says he wishes it would end permanently. That shouldn't really come as a surprise to people that follow the Roloffs closely. Shortly after the show was cancelled, Amy did an interview with a "Mom blog" where she was asked how the kids felt now that the show had ended (before the specials were announced) and Amy admitted that Molly and Jacob were glad that it was over and just did the show because "that's what mom and dad said we're doing".

However, we thought readers would like to know what we have been told recently -- Jacob definitely hates LPBW and wishes it was gone forever - at least that's what he tells people. That does contradict what Matt has said in some of these recent interviews, where Matt says the entire family were happy with the limited/40 day filming. No, that's not what we're told, we have it on good authority that Jacob tells people he wishes LPBW was permanently dead.

While Matt has said in some recent interviews that the entire

family discussed it and is happy doing the new LPBW specials,

friends of the Roloffs have reported to us that Jacob has made it

well known that he hates LPBW and wishes it was permanently

cancelled.

*Matt is asked to describe the new season (which it isn't really -- 4 specials that are planned to be months apart) in a sentence. He describes it as emotional and transitional.

You can read the entire interview here:

http://technorati.com/entertainment/tv/article/interview-with-matt-roloff-father-on/

Peter Dinklage Becomes First LP To Win Emmy; Thanks Dogsitter, Not Matt Roloff

2011-09-18T22:30:00.006-06:00

Peter Dinklage won the Emmy award tonight for his role in HBO's Game Of Thrones. In doing so, he became the first LP to win the Emmy.

His nomination and the content of his acceptance speech was a hot topic on our site:

http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2011/07/actor-with-dwarfism-nominated-for-emmy.html

Some Matt Roloff fans felt that Peter Dinklage should thank or acknowledge the Roloff family or more specifically -- Matt Roloff for his contribution towards LP awareness and acceptance.

In his actual acceptance speech, Dinklage made no mention of Matt Roloff. He acknowledged his fellow nominees and thanked his dogsitter before expressing his love for his wife.

Jen Montzingo, who has also been criticized by some folks for apparently not acknowledging Matt Roloff for her current career in Hollywood as an actress, posted Peter Dinklage's speech.

Jacob Roloff In Public High School -- Video

2011-09-16T16:59:00.006-06:00

There is a very random and brief video of Jacob Roloff walking in the hallways of the public high school he now attends. As for action in the video, well, nope, that's pretty much it -- Jacob walking while another kid asks him "what's up?"

Apparently kids at the new school took video on their phones and posted it as proof to their disbelieving parents that a Roloff from Little People, Big World now goes to school with them.

Jacob is the first Roloff kid to attend a public high school. It marks a change in dynamics for the Roloffs. At Faith Bible, most of the kids had known each other attended since kindergarten or for many years, so there was never the 'fame aspect'. Everybody pretended like they never watched the show or cared and were very quick to ridicule fans (with encouragement from the Roloff kids themselves). Now Jacob is going to school with people that obviously were fans/watched the show and aren't shy about admitting it.

If you missed the story a few months ago, last April Jacob Roloff was expelled from Faith Bible Christian School. Matt and Amy were left scrambling to ensure he would not be held back and made to repeat the 8th grade. They immediately talked of home schooling, but settled on a tutoring facility for the duration of 8th grade. He took some state tests and was allowed to start Grade 9 this September.

With Faith Bible (the only school all of the Roloff kids have ever attended) out of the question after their decision to wash their hands of Jacob and with Matt publicly declaring that he never liked that school that they currently send Molly to for her senior year and sent Jeremy and Zach their whole lives, the Roloffs opted for one of the large public high schools in the area.

Some of the Faith Bible crowd have told us they don't think it's fair, because public high school that Jacob now attends has implemented a balanced grading system which means grades are as follows:

A = 80 to 100%

B = 60 to 79

C = 40 to 59

D = 20 to 39

F = 0 - 19

Jeremy Roloff At Brooks Institute of Photography -- Orientation Day

2011-09-07T08:31:00.004-06:00

Just thought we would pass along this photo of the new Brooks students during orientation.

I'll assume most people can spot Jeremy in this picture.

Molly Roloff's You Tube Videos

2011-08-19T17:10:00.005-06:00

Thanks to Tegan713 for passing these along. Molly Roloff apparently has a You Tube channel (one would assume -- mojoro2...aka MOlly JO ROloff). It's not clear if these were school projects or their idea of entertainment, but there are two videos.

The first one primarily features Molly and her friends Sarah and Paige. The credits say Zach filmed and Jeremy did the editing. Jeremy, Jacob Roloff, Mueller and Zach's girlfriend Tori are in the video briefly as "the rescue crew". It's filmed on the farm and in Matt's office. They named the 'doctor', "Doctor Hemp".

The 2nd video was previously, briefly, on Jeremy's channel but he deleted it once people began commenting on the part where it looks like the Roloff friend tries to give Rocky a little shove off the hill -- and that set off comments about the Roloffs animal abuse and treatment of cats -- then Jeremy deleted it. But this is the same video. It's basically 2 minutes of their friend Christian running around Roloff Farm. Jacob Roloff is a bystander watching.

This will illustrate between our site and the official Roloff sites. If you're wondering who Christian is, if you read Amy's official Facebook fan page, Christian is the polite young man who was playing with Jacob in the Roloff pool (Amy posted the picture). A great kid.

If you read our site, you'll best remember Christian as the underage friend (around Molly's age) who was doing shots of Jack Daniels in the Roloff garage with Jeremy, Zach, and Mueller in the video by the french girls -- it was removed shortly after we posted about it.

Jeremy Roloff Update August 2011 -- New Girlfriend, New Vehicle and Leaving For College Soon

2011-08-16T17:20:00.028-06:00

Zach and Jeremy with their girlfriends, Tori and Audrey

So there's a bit of real news about Jeremy Roloff that we can pass along. We've said before when the Little People, Big World "Update specials" were announced that at that point nothing had really changed at all with the Roloff family. The series finale plots were just make believe, drama filled story lines to give them a plot in hopes of ratings. Matt and Amy weren't getting divorced and they weren't selling the farm.

When the LPBW specials were announced, the most significant happening in the lives of the Roloffs was something that is unlikely (honestly, at least) to be covered on LPBW -- and that was Jacob Roloff being expelled from Faith Bible Christian School. As astute people have pointed out before - one of the dynamics that the casual LPBW viewing public aren't really aware of when the Roloffs publicly say that the show is real and 'warts and all' is that the main producer on site that has a lot of control over what was or wasn't filmed -- producer Chris Cardamone -- is very close personal friends with Amy and all of the Roloff kids. It is true that there are some people that believe he long ago crossed the line of professionalism regarding becoming personal friends with his "subjects" if Little People, Big World was to be taken seriously as a documentary style/real reality franchise. Obviously the final product from a producer whose goal is to capture and portray people honestly is going to differ from that of a producer who cares deeply about his friends on a personal level and is concerned with how they are portrayed and their reputations.

Anyhow, nothing else had really changed at all since viewers had last seen the Roloffs on TV. Matt was still being Matt -- promoting pumpkin season attractions, Amy was still trying to develop the Amy Roloff brand separate from Matt and increase her public profile via her charity foundation.

Zach was still working at the Indoor Soccer place. Still living at home, sharing a room with Jeremy. Still hanging out with Jeremy, Mueller and the DBU a lot.

Jeremy still was living at home, hanging out with Mueller most hours of every day going on different kinds of "adventures" and without a real job -- aside from occasionally popping in to get paid by Matt to help with his dirt project with Intel as a dumping ground. People 'in the know' advise, as usual, not to believe Matt's spin. Jeremy was not working like a dog most days, in fact he was hardly working -- he's spent a (another) summer of play, adventure after adventure.

So really, not much had changed at all. Not that some of this would ever be discussed on the show, but one of the shifts in dynamics with the Roloffs is said to have been around Zach's 21st birthday. Zach, who previously was said to honestly dislike the party/obnoxious drunk scene, has explored his wild side as our reports from the LPA and Zach's drunkenness on the dance floor and behavior with girls indicated. Zach also got a girlfriend named Tori, a girl that works for the Roloffs during pumpkin season.

Now there are some 'real' updates about Jeremy that some will be interested in.

#1. New Girlfriend

We'll start with this only because it has been a popular Roloff related search for many, many years....Jeremy finally has an official girlfriend. Jeremy has a whole horde of girls that he "hangs out" with that people often start thinking are "more than friends', but friends in Hillsboro say it's safe to share the fact that Jeremy has an official girlfriend.

Her name is Audrey. The interesting thing that some people have noted is that it was obvious to some that some of Jeremy's interests and likes were shaped by what Audrey likes. That's notable only because it's unusual with the dynamic that involves Jeremy -- usually it's other people trying to like what Jeremy likes to impress and that sort of thing.

If you're wondering what Jeremy's new girlfriend is like, perhaps one thing that will shed some light, is to say that she, like Jeremy, is a big supporter of the Solid Rock Church in Portland and lists John Mark Comer (and his Mother who has a Ministry for women) as one of her personal heroes and inspirations. That's one of the reasons why I always found it ridiculous when certain anonymous posters tried to deceive the public by calling us liars when we first reported that Jeremy loved John Mark Comer's church. Roloff PR image aside, anyone that has any inside knowledge of the Roloffs knew that was a solid fact about Jeremy and that he was proud to support that Church because the friends that he hangs out with love it too.

Jeremy's girlfriend, Audrey, has a public (well, as of right now ;-)) blog that she did with her best friend over the last year or so. It was one of those "Get To Know Me" challenges where a person posts a picture or writes about a given topic each day.

http://thebudlife.blogspot.com/2010/06/143.html

These are the things that WE 143 (aka love according to Bobby Brackins)
Stand By Me
McDonalds, and Helvatia Tavern, Rock Creek Tavern, Pine Tavern
Nike
Running
Skiing
Boating
Singing (but we suck)
Dancing (but...)
Bend, OR
Young Life
Farms
Goodwill
Longboarding
Driving/our cars
Pizza (crust with honey), Cinnabons, Pink Stars, Panacakes (thick vs thin), Peachs, Naan bread, fruit snacks (hard), batter.. of all sorts, Holly's pantry, POG, sunflower seeds, Skyline milkshakes, Starbucks breakfast sandwiches, Pazookies, Special K Red Berries, scrambles eggs with cheese and ketchup, cobbler, Hansen's soda, day old 69 cents maple bars from Safeway, blackberries, Coke in a glass bottle, Chili bread bowls at Mt. Bachelor, Iced Milky Way's, samples (Costco), Pine Tavern rolls with honey butter... ok maybe our first blog should have been about food..
Playing catch and baseball
The Goonies, Finding Nemo, Sandlot, and Love Actually.
The Last Song (book)
Solid Rock and John Mark Comer
Phil Whickam, Taylor Swift, Rascal Flatts, Needtobreathe,
Making and wearing bracelets
Sunset High School
Coffee at The Way
Ewoks
Malibu, Wildhorse, Breakaway, and soon to be Castaway
Sunrises, sunsets, and stars
Punchbowl Falls
Sleeping outside (tramp/fort)
The Brown Couch
Sauvies
Boys that love Jesus, dress good, hunt, boat, ski, and are awesome.
Piano in songs
Our Weddings
Our Families
The GS
XC camp
The Old Mill
The Spot
Bike Rides
Exploring and adventure
Fishing
ATVs
Playing cards
The Dancing Board and Painting
Loaded Questions
Isaiah 40:31
quoting Dane Cook
Warren Miller and his voice
Jersey's
Porch Swings
Bonfires
Trespassing
Train Tracks
Faith
Fields
Red
Boy clothes
Country
Perfume and nailpolish
Jack Purcells
The Bible, Velvet Elvis, The Shack
Napping when life's got ya down
Prineville Reservoir
Oregon and trees
Brad Anderson
Writing on our hands
Roman
Hats
Our rings
God's love, grace, and truth
BudLIFE

http://thebudlife.blogspot.com/

Something We Love...Jesus Christ

"And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them." 1 John 4:16

"Love the Lord your God with all your heart
and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind; and, Love your neighbor as yourself." Luke 10:27

A picture of something we STRONGLY DISLIKE (no hate)

Excuses....
Rule #76. Play like a Champion.. No Excuses.

We just wish more people were down to adventure with us and seize opportunities, instead of staying in their comfort zones and justifying their laziness. BUDlife doesn't stick to thesame ol song and dance since 89, "if you wanna keep up your gonna have to bleed to do it."

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#2. Another Vehicle

Jeremy bought yet another vehicle ...a blue VW van.

#3. Leaving for California in the next week or two

After much talk (considering Jeremy was originally accepted to Brooks in November of 2009)...Jeremy is finally set to leave Hillsboro and will head off for Santa Barbara, California where the Brooks Institute of Photography is located. Jeremy is set to leave before the end of August.

Rap's Roundtable Guest Column: Is Money More Important To The Roloffs Than Their Christian Faith?

2011-08-14T13:45:00.021-06:00

In this weeks edition of Rap's Roundtable/Guest Column discussion, on the heels of the Video items regarding a Roloff friend, Jen Montzingo - discussing her Christian faith in detail and her views on social issues open and honestly -- Rap makes the argument that money is more important to the Roloff family than Jesus and their Christian Faith.

The following are Rap's words and opinions:
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To be honest, this is one of those topics, Religion and the Roloffs, that in some respects is simply guaranteed to generate debate, because there are people on both sides who feel strongly about their views to the point that they aren’t going to see anything but their side. I may be among those people, but it may shock you to know that I do re-evaluate my opinions. I’m going to start with some bullet points, things that there really aren’t any disagreement on.

1. TLC has no problem depicting the Christian religion. Frankly, even back when TLC was still The Learning Channel, it was obvious that *someone* involved in programming was of the Christian faith. They used to run endless documentaries about the Bible (Ancient Mysteries of the Bible, was the name of the series, I think, and it was their go to fill in whenever things got slow). There’s a variety of shows that depicts families with very conservative Christian religious beliefs, and I am NOT just referring to the Duggars. They showed Kate Gosselin speaking in a church at what was clearly a pro-life gathering, My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding was all about glorfying a rather conservative Christian lifestyle, Toddlers and Tiaras constantly has praying to Jesus and discussions of whether pagents are Christian or not. Most of the giant family shows are about Christian families.

2. The Roloffs have some control over what is depicted on the show. Let’s stop pretending they don’t. Per the Roloffs themselves, they put filming at their church off limits. There are obvious incidents, covered previously, of things that clearly weren’t allowed to be depicted.

http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2011/07/good-bad-and-ugly-of-roloff-family-on.html

3. No one in the Roloff family has ever committed to agreeing with the belief that homosexuality is wrong, can be cured, and is against God. This belief is *often* attributed to the Roloffs, but as yet, no Roloff has officially endorsed this view.

Now, I was once a casual fan of this show. That was when I picked up Matt’s first book… and that’s where I started to get a little twinge. If you haven’t read it, it is really rather interesting. If I had never seen the show, I would have assumed that Matt Roloff was deeply religious. But… after watching the show, I have my doubts.

Not that the Roloffs are professed Christians, but rather how important that view is to them.

Here’s the reality folks. After the Little People Big Dreams opener, the Roloffs very much downplayed that they were staunchly Christian and they’ve rarely acknowledged their conservative Republican leanings. Without looking around for extra information or reading Roloff books… the general viewing public would NEVER think the Roloffs hold such conservative views. After all, they’re basically wealthy, liberal, permissive parents who let their kids do whatever they want. They rarely even have dinner together, let alone have the traditional sit down, pray and eat sort of dinner that is the mark of a Christian family. Sure the kids attend a private Christian school, but frankly, that’s not the red flag one might think it is - a lot of wealthy liberal parents send their kids to private Christian schools. Jeremy and Zach, and later Molly and Jake? All mouthy kids who disrespect their parents. I mean, this doesn’t shock me in a liberal, permissive home at all. It does surprise me when I am told the Roloffs are conservative Christians with conservative values and honestly - they are so not. I mean, folks, my parents, Republicans both, and both raised in fairly conservative Christian faiths in the 1950s, would NEVER have tolerated Zach’s lip at fifteen. My mom watches the show and thinks the Roloffs are hippy liberal sorts because of the back talk, and disrespect, and the kids doing whatever they please. Classic example…. Had my brother ever called my dad a “dick” the way Jeremy “I am a christian and respect my father always with my great big loving Christian heart” Roloff did… especially after needing to be taken to a hairdresser because he’d already scored detention for disrespecting school rules… He sure wouldn’t have been getting his license any time soon after it. Another example that screams liberal permissive and not traditional conservative Christian is Amy’s little fit over Molly’s strapless gown for eighth grade graduation. Please remember, Amy felt the school was being too conservative there and argued the point before caving. So it always surprised me that the Roloffs were held up as conservative Christian examples because they’re so not.

Then I read the second book Matt wrote, Little People Big Values, and I got more suspicious. Look, I am not saying the Roloffs are secretly pagan, they obviously identify Christian, but… really, does that Big Value book reflect what you know about the Roloffs?

Here’s what I think. I think they are religious as long as it doesn’t require any real effort. The truth, folks, is that its rather easy to be Christian. I had this discussion with a friend recently, and let’s be honest. All you have to do is show up to church occasionally. With the Roloffs, it is even easier. You don’t have to show yourself doing or saying anything religious. You don’t have to depict yourself as even reasonably devout. The reality, folks, is that Jeremy Roloff has never discussed his faith on tv.

It’s important I think right now to remind everyone how TLC has no issue showing strongly devout Christians and that the Roloffs have more than a little control over how they are depicted. No one at TLC is stopping a 21 year old man from discussing his religion.

No one is stopping Matt and Amy Roloff from standing up proudly for their faith and clearly stating what they believe about homosexuality. No one. You want to cite non disclosure agreements, here’s my answer to that. Who is forcing Matt and Amy to sign those agreements?

Who? Please tell us who is *making* Matt and Amy hide their faith. We *know* that Matt controls Jeremy and Zach and these two 21 year old *boys* aren’t allowed by Daddy Matt to stand up for Christ, but why are Matt and Amy willfully choosing money over Christ?

Oh there we are. The money.

See, here’s the problem. The Roloff *brand* is NOT that of a staunchly conservative Christian family. Oh, its there, but really, the “TV Roloffs” are a decidedly liberal family. They’re permissive and they stand up for disabled minorities and their kids are allowed to do as they please with no boundaries or standards.

The "Book/Online Roloffs" seem to be a made up fantasy. Partly by the Roloffs, and partly by their not so helpful friends and fans. Point - an important point - I’m not the one who set Jeremy Roloff up as a paragon of Christian values. That all started with the book Little People Big Values and the ghostwriter who tagged Jeremy with the “I don’t drink as it does not please God” stuff. It was about the time of the book that the “Jeremy is an amazing Christian boy started” started with the fans.

The truth, unfortunately, is a completely different thing. Ironically, the most outspoken and most demonstrative of Christian values in the Roloff family is Zach. But he’s not good looking, and kinda mouthy, and I understand from the “cool Christians” that actually acting Christian is lame and Jesus kinda hates the goody two shoes who do the right thing. And by the way, I don’t consider Zach some sort of super Christian, either. He’s just the only one who has had the willingness to discuss his faith, and to at least try to display his Christian home training. And his reward is to be mocked by certain Christian fans as a goody two shoes.

Do the Roloffs believe that homosexuality is a sin that can be cured? I don’t know. Their Christian fans insist they do, but the Roloffs don’t have the courage to give a statement of belief in this respect. I think, again, that it comes down to money. I’m pretty sure the Roloffs do hold the belief that homosexuality is wrong, and I am certain, based on their actions and lack of actions, and comments, that if money wasn’t involved, they’d have more to say. But money is involved, and more important than Christ.

Jeremy's (privately) enthusiastic support of John Mark Comer's Church in Portland

that teaches that homosexuality should be prayed away and cured makes some believe the

Roloffs know this news would be bad for their Public Speaking careers as Diversity Advocates

I think Jeremy would certainly call himself Christian if asked. I don’t think he’s got a particularly deep understanding of his faith. He’s certainly never been asked to do anything difficult for his faith, and it shows. Folks, its very *easy* to be Christian when you’re applauded for nothing. Jeremy and Mueller call someone a cross eyed downie? Oh but he’s an usher at church so bless him. He drinks despite his pastor saying its wrong? Oh but church is a hospital for sinners, not a place for saints so lets all applaud him drinking with his underage buddies. I mean really, when the bar for being an awesome Christian is set so low…. Is it really accomplishing anything for God if being an awesome Christian requires nothing but lip service?

The irony is that while I think Amy is into the more hard core faith, the more hard core fans laud Matt Roloff for his Christian beliefs. The reason I find that hilarious is that its clear that Matt is the mastermind behind the restrictions on how the Roloffs’s religion is NOT depicted. Matt is probably the only Roloff who is savvy to how being seen as liberal and pro-diversity is going to score them some long term money on the public speaker circuit. You can’t speak about diversity and endorse the “gays can be cured by loving Jesus more” party line and Matt knows this. At the same time, Matt clearly courted the Christian market with his two books and he and Amy both are careful to not tick off the more conservative folks by again, making a definitive statement on their views on homosexuality.

I suspect the truth is this. The Roloffs are liberal, permissive parents who pay lip service to Christian values for the sake of the show. Do they believe in Jesus and God? Sure. Are they mostly laughing at their Christian fans who proclaim them to be near perfect. Are they politically conservative? Yes unless you’re a reporter or doing an interview. Then they shut up about it because the TV Roloffs are NOT politically conservative and acknowledging the real Roloffs’ views hurts the TV Roloffs’s brand.

Bottom line, its about money. And the love of money is why you’ll never hear a Roloff discuss how their love of Jesus leads them to feel that homosexuality is wrong.

Jeremy and Zach Roloff's Friend Childhood -- Daniel Meichtry Gets Married Today

2011-08-13T05:49:00.005-06:00

We wanted to send out a public congratulations to Daniel Meichtry and his bride Erica on their Wedding today.

Dan is one of Jeremy and Zach's friends since kindergarten that has been on Little People, Big World many times. He is one of the 'DBU' - the name of their club. Dan is the first one to be married. Things are changing for the 'DBU' -- Dan getting married today and Jeremy is supposed to head off for Santa Barbara, California -- where Brooks Photography Institute is located by the end of this month.

In our interview with Dan in May of 2009 -- he mentioned that his then girlfriend Erica would be moving to Oregon that summer. Then they got engaged and now the wedding today.

In dealing with Daniel to set up the interview (which was before -- and obviously what prompted -- Matt's directive to the Hillsboro friends that they can't mention the Roloffs or speak with us - Dan was honest and expressed regret for some things that happened in the past -- that's evidently not how the Roloffs choose to deal with certain topics/behavior) -- Dan was first class. No topics were off limits and he had the character to answer them all -- which included some tough questions and uncomfortable subjects. Personally, I have the utmost respect for people that don't duck the hard questions.

http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2009/05/daniel-meichtry-interview-life-long.html

So once again, Congratulations to Dan and Erica!

Jen Montzingo Responds To Roloff Christian Fans And Other Comments

2011-08-08T17:36:00.012-06:00

Some of the comments in the last item about Jen Montzingo's video about social justice/disability rights got somewhat passionate.

One of the things we have always attempted to do on this site is to be fair to all involved when people make comments about an individual. For anyone who thinks we are unfair to the Roloffs - that's simply not the case. The Roloffs -- Matt, Amy (whose representative arranged an interview and then Amy backed out of it), Jeremy and Zach all have an open invitation to have their say on anything said on our site. The offer stands to any other friends that are discussed, most notably Jacob Mueller. All we can do is offer -- that they don't accept is not something we can control.

Anyhow, when the comments in our last item were getting a bit personal, I did decide to contact Jen Montzingo herself to let her know that she was being discussed and gave her the opportunity to respond if she wanted. She graciously agreed to respond personally to many of the comments to our first item:

http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2011/08/jen-montzingo-video-on-social-justice.html

Carolynn said...
"I think it's human nature to conform to your environment. I don't know Jen personally, but I think it would be incorrect to say that the pressures of being in LA and working around more gay people in the entertainment industry had nothing to do with her liberal social views."

Jen Montzingo: You're perceptive about the tendencies of human nature. My father was raised in the Free Methodist denomination, which I later worked in, which greatly informed my beliefs on this issue. The "Free" in "Free Methodist" pertains to 19th Century Christians who wanted to confront specific social ills: renting/selling church pews and slavery, to name a few. So, I come from a long line of people who are social activists! :)

Dana said...
"I have two things to say.

#1. I could see that Jen was losing her morals years ago. In my opinion, she chose trying to be popular to gain friends in LA instead of staying with God and the Word in the Bible. Standing for Jesus sometimes means sacrificing being seen as "cool" or "popular".

I have no concerns at all about Jeremy moving to California because he has proven that he has a much stronger relationship with Jesus than Jen had. Jeremy is not going to forget the principles in the Bible in an attempt to impress new friends. The greatest glory comes from living for Jesus. That's something Jeremy understands much better than Jen.

#2. I will try not to judge too harshly because she only spoke for a second, but based on the fact that she did write a blog entry and her past sentiments in the video about Zach and comments…..lets just say I think Jen has lost her morals in a lot of ways. It shows in how she shoves God into the background for popularity with her LA friends and it shows in the lack of appreciation she expresses for Matt Roloff.

Just like Peter Dinklage, or even more than Peter Dinklage, if Jen is talking about getting a role on a tv show personally I think it is classless for her not to pay tribute to Matt for all that he has done. Face it folks, Jen would not be getting a pay check in LA if it wasn't for Matt Roloff unless she was playing an leprechaun or an oompha loompa or something else demeaning.

If Jen does a longer interview or more promotion I would hope she would pay tribute to Matt, but I'm not holding my breath."

Jen Montzingo: In regards to Statement #1:
Wow! You really have a knack for observing what I have lost. If you "find my morals", would you kindly mail them back to me? I don't know how an intellectual, spirited discussion means I am now immoral. But I'll be sure to note your observations and don't worry-- I've never been too "cool.". That's something Jesus and I have in common. ;)

Also, I couldn't even begin to analyze your personal relationship with God as you have compared Jeremy's and mine. I wish I had your talents for assessing something deeply private and complex and then being able to compare them! :). You must've done very well on the SAT's!

In regards to Statement #2:
Of course, Matt Roloff has contributed a lot to the world, particularly in the area of people's perceptions of LP's. So, if you have ever wondered, here is my very public THANK YOU. I have never doubted his contributions. I also owe a world of thanks to every single person who is just out there living their lives as LP's with grace and integrity. You are also changing the public's perception.

I didn't know that until LPBW there were only demeaning acting jobs. In case you want to see his earlier, critically acclaimed mainstream work-- Peter Dinklage has been in the business for over 15 years. Also check out Ian Michael Smith's performance in the film, "Simon Birch." Brilliant!

If this is me shoving Jesus in the background, let me also say, I put my faith in His grace. And thanks again to Matt Roloff ;)

Paula Y said...
"Jen should read the Bible closer. By definition, a Christian must believe that the Bible is the Word of God. It states throughout the Bible that homosexuals are sinners. God intends for there to be one man and one woman.

In my opinion, Jen had a weak understanding of faith and God to begin with. Jeremy and the Roloffs are on much better path. Perhaps Jen should have went to hear John Mark Comer with Jeremy when she was in Oregon.

I will pray for her that she finds her way back to God."

Jen Montzingo:
That's why there's so much beauty in a multitude of denominations among Christians. As "iron sharpens iron" I have so much to learn from people of faith all around me. Also, as my biological parents live in Israel, I am blessed to learn from others across the globe!

Thank you for your prayers.

Thank you for your comments. You might consider reading "The Year of Living Biblically" by A.J. Jacobs. It chronicles one man's year-long journey to following the Bible as literally as possible. To be fruitful and multiply and not wear clothes of mixed fibers are just a couple of Biblical mandates. I'd be curious as to what you'd think.

Respected Biblical scholars have not even come to just one consensus on the issue of homosexuality in the Bible. One must read the Bible in historical and cultural context, as well as one whole book -- not just picking individual verses. Most New Testament letters were written to specific churches facing specific issues, for example.

Craw said...
"Jeremy should send Jen some of JMC's podcasts and what the Bible says. Go Jeremy!"

Jen Montzingo
Humbly speaking, John Mark Comer is not the authoritative Word of God or definitive voice of the Bible. There are many Christian leaders who would not prescribe to his teachings. No disrespect intended. I am not putting him down by any means but the church I spent most of my years in is a 150 year-old church housed on a university campus and doctrinally they do not align with JMC's teachings. I do not follow one person, I follow the life, work and teachings of Jesus Christ.

Rap541 said...
"The Roloffs and Jen having dwarfism is not a choice.

Limb lengthening corrects their malformed bodies.

Technically deformed people, per Leviticus, are not welcome in the house of God. Since its in the bible.... oh wait, Christians just pick and choose what rules they follow. Never mind. ;)"

Jen Montzingo:
Well stated. And Amen.

Lynn C said...
"Rap, then maybe Jen should follow the Roloffs lead and stop being vocal and isolating herself from a large group of people and maybe she could have got a reality show like the Roloffs."

Jen Montzingo:

Thankfully, and thanks to (again) Matt Roloff has already done a fabulous reality show. I am not aiming to steal his thunder. At this time, I am not interested in starring in my own reality show. Why try to copy something that was already done successfully? ;)

Rap541 said...
"PS - as to kissing ass to the gays.... funny how a)I have it on good authority that gay people may have been involved in the production of LPBW and b) Heh, the Roloffs sure don't stand up publically with their beliefs, now do they? Guess they don't wanna piss off the Hollywood queers and end their little gravy train. I mean, please point me to Matt Roloff and Amy Roloff taking a stand on homosexuality and saying they are against it because of their religion.

Oh bless us, no, they can't do that... after all they might lose the Hollywood queer money that they love sooo much, it shuts their mouths about their *deeply held* beliefs.

Someone please explain how Matt, who supposedly feels homosexuality is wrong, is standing up for that belief by *never speaking out*?

Jen Montzingo:
The only thing that I can speak to is that there were wildly talented homosexuals involved in all elements of LPBW-- from entry level to VP's at TLC.

Roxanne said...
"I like Jen and what she said but there is something I saw someone on another site say once and it could be a tough question.

If Jen is outspoken for gay rights and against gay bashing, why didn't she say anything when Jeremy was saying "f*ggot" to her? I remember some of Jeremy's comments in the National Enquirer.

Anybody else remember? Jeremy's comment about his soccer game and how he didn't want to sound like a gay bragging f*ggot?" That comment actually started out " hey jen, the soccer game was rad. i dont want to sound like gay bragging f..."

I'm just saying if Jen let that slide without saying anything, isn't that sort of wrong? I did a high school project on Maya Angelou and she says it's hard but when someone uses language like that you need to make it known in some way that it's not ok. If you aren't strong enough to actually tell them it's not ok, then you should get up and leave or say you have to be going. Eventually people will stop talking that way around you.

I'm not trying to be mean to Jen because I think she's a good person but itis something that occurred to me when I was watching her video."

Jen Montzingo:
This thoughtful observation deserves a thoughtful response that I will do in the next couple of days. Thank you for pointing out what could be construed as hypocritical and inauthentic. I will say, I did speak with Jeremy about this privately and he was very open to what I had to say. He was ignorant to using that loaded word so casually and did not come from a place that intended to hurt others. That was years ago - I'm not sure as to what his thoughts are now. But I promise to respond to this more further, if desired, and truly thank you for raising such a fair question.

Lisa Z said...
"Rap, Dana is right. Has Jen ever said thank you to Matt or given the Roloffs their due? Would it really hurt for her to pay homage to the Roloffs and want the Roloffs did.

I remember when Jen posted on Matt Roloff.com a long long time ago. She said she wished there was a show like LPBW when she was growing up. Why hasn't she said that lately?"

Jen Montzingo:
You're absolutely correct that I said that and I still believe the same thing. So I'll say it again: Thank you.

Carla said...
Rap, has Matt ever been asked that question in an interview?

I don't care. I stand by what I said. It is impossible to be a Christian and to be gay.

Jen Montzingo:
I'll stand by this. God is a God of the impossible. How is it any different than being a Christian and _____ (fill in the blank)?

Laura Lynch said...
If Jeremy R has recommended John Mark Comer's speeches to his friends, does this mean he has provided access to Jen M, but she refused to listen? If so, then that says a lot about Jen's own narrow-mindedness in refusing to listen when answers are being provided for her.

Jen Montzingo:
I am open to growing and learning from others but I do not find him doctrinally sound. He has gusto and passion though! To say that one man (JMC) provides all the answers is a pretty scary concept. Following one man blindly can lead to many problems. I do not want to disrespect JMC but I do not think all of his doctrine is that black and white. Thankfully, there are many denominations.

Valerie said...
I'll just throw this out there. She said it in the video, but she might be gay.

Like Jeremy's John Mark pastor has said, 9 times out of 10 people that are confused about their sexuality are confused because they had a bad relationship with their father. For a girl that would be with their mother? I think I've seen Jen say she was adopted. If she has issues like that it could be a possibility about why she is trying to make it seem ok when she knows God doesn't approve.

Jen Montzingo:
I am not gay. I am not confused about my own sexuality. But, nice psychological assessment! I too enjoy thinking deeply about things and can tell you do as well. :)

JoAnna said...
Jen is very confused imo. She should find solace in God and the Bible instead of power in Hollywood. You cannot be serving God and be helping destroy God's plan for human sexuality.

Jen Montzingo:
Thankfully, as one person I do not have the capability of destroying God's plan for human sexuality. Even if I wanted to. But I don't. God is a great big God and I am only 4'2". :)

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Thanks again to Jen for taking the time to respond personally.

This was the original video that sparked the comments:

http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2011/08/jen-montzingo-video-on-social-justice.html

Jen Montzingo Video On Social Justice And Often Discussed Roloff Topic

2011-08-06T11:01:00.016-06:00

Over the years we have passed along items from friends or people that were on Little People, Big World or that were about topics that get discussed on our site because of the Roloffs.

One of the often discussed and most controversial topic is about the Roloffs views and beliefs about gay marriage or gay rights. Due to the Roloffs message on LPBW about acceptance and the direction of Matt and Amy's speaking engagements, some see this topic as the Roloffs being massive hypocrites -- people that support one thing in their real private lives but are hush hush about it publicly because the truth could jeopardize one of their income streams (Diversity Speakers/Advocates).

Others, usually fellow Christian fans of the Roloffs -- are proud that the Roloffs are "anti-gay" and "stand for the Bible".

For the record, although not surprisingly, Matt and Amy have never said exactly what their position is or isn't (and Jeremy -- even at age 21 -- doesn't speak for himself publicly about anything), it is a fact that the Roloffs have supported a number of organizations that are notoriously famous for being "anti-gay" in the name of God.

It is indeed true that Amy at one time linked Focus On The Family on her official website -- FOTF is arguably most known for their opposition to gay rights -- When Amy founded her Amy Roloff Charity Foundation she removed the Focus on The Family link and replaced it with the ARCF link.

The Roloffs are vocal supporters and have held fundraisers on their farm for Oregon Senator Bruce Starr who has been described as the most anti-gay politician in Oregon.

And then the thing that has really drawn focus to the whole subject was in the last year or two -- Jeremy's pure enthusiasm and support of a Church in Portland which is led by pastor John Mark Comer. We always hesitated to actually name the church, but Matt Roloff did go ahead and say on his Facebook Fan Page that Jeremy is a volunteer usher at the Solid Rock Church and absolutely loves it. And that is true. Friends of Jeremy's have proudly told us for quite some time that Jeremy is completely wrapped up in the Church. He usually attends on the weekends (the weekend sermons with John Mark are geared towards the age range of 18 - 26) as much as he can. He's very vocal in recommending the Podcasts to all of his friends. He often quotes parts of John Mark Comer's sermons. Jeremy and many of his close friends that attend Church with him list John Mark Comer as one of their most inspirational and most respected people.

The entire Roloff family followed Jeremy to the Solid Rock Church for Christmas service this past year. Molly is also following Jeremy's lead and is getting more involved in the Solid Rock church. Matt noted on Facebook that Molly went with Jeremy to attend the Church's two day "Loveology" seminars this year which is geared towards Christians who are around the college age.

Anyhow, the Solid Rock church and John Mark Comer are very outspoken that gay people will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven and they are active in promoting the idea and practice "gay therapy" or advocate praying to Jesus to cure gay people of their "perversion" or "brokenness" (words from John Mark Comer). We have linked the the actual podcasts many times before. It actually was part of the Loveology series that Jeremy and Molly attended. And it is true that Jeremy did like the video/podcasts and has recommended them to many friends. For people that know Jeremy and the Roloffs it's not a secret at all about what they believe. The majority of the Roloffs friends, especially the Hillsboro friends all share the same beliefs.

In a Live Coffee Chat earlier this year, 10 minutes after Amy said she was giving a speech entitled "Being an individual tree among the forest -- how to accept your difference and the differences of others " -- Amy was put on the spot and confronted about the anti-acceptance/pray to be cured message of Jeremy's church that Amy has also attended. Amy waffled and didn't say what she thought one way or the other. Maybe, sometimes you might attend a church and you might not agree with every message but maybe you might not throw out the whole message because you might, possibly, maybe, disagree with one thing.

A couple of months later, another person confronted Amy with a series of questions including: "Jeremy and Molly supporting the very message that Matt and Amy are so-called speaking advocates for about acceptance of differences. Why do you not accept gays? Do you think they have a disease?"

Amy again avoided giving a definitive answer: "We do advocate for acceptance of people but also have the right to whatever our personal opinions and beliefs may be."

The Solid Rock church also has some rather controversial views on a woman's role in the world -- basically that a woman's role in life is to serve her husband -- she is to defer to her man and if she has questions about the Bible, a woman is to only ask her husband for the answers and that kind of thing -- the church is also quite firm on the issue of drinking or getting drunk which is why the topic of Jeremy and his friends escapades with alcohol always garners a lot of attention also.

Anyhow, because of the divide in the LPBW audience -- many of the Roloffs loyal fans are also very conservative Christians -- the Roloffs views on the gay issue always gets quite a bit of attention and discussion.

We have occasionally in the past linked Jen Montzingo's videos and blog. Readers of our site are familiar with Jen from her past videos and blogs. She was a friend of the Roloffs mostly seen on the show earlier on in the series - Season 1, 2 or 3 mostly. As readers of our site know, there were rumors in the past that Jen and Zach were dating although both of them denied it and now Zach has girlfriend in Oregon named Tori that works for the Roloffs during pumpkin season. It might be worth mentioning though, according to some of the people we heard from that attended the LPA conference last month in Anaheim - Jen was there and people said she and the Roloffs rarely spent any time together. Whether that's a reflection on the state of their friendship these days or or just the way it worked out -- who knows.

We came across this video that Jen Montzingo made recently where a few different topics that have been discussed on our site was mentioned. She's very vocal in her support of gay rights in talking about the documentary about country singer Chely Wright. Jen touches on her opinion of being a Christian re: gay people. She also has an interesting take in comparing her own passion for hoping to see more exposure in the media for people with disabilities or differences to this issue (this topic was touched on in the discussion on our site about Amy's comments about the Emmy awards and Peter Dinklage's recent Emmy nomination).

Another reason why I wanted to pass along Jen's video was that she mentions receiving some critical messages from Little People, Big World/Roloff Fans that said she only became more liberal in her views to fit into "LA/Hollywood". That sounds very similar to a lot of comments that have been made about Jen from some regular posters that are very pro-Roloff that post on this site.

http://hopesprouts.wordpress.com/

Here are some of the parts in the video that I thought some of the readers of our site might be interested in because of the frequent topics here on these issues because of the Roloffs.

3:10 -- "I am a fan of memoirs. Especially the topic of Faith and spirituality and Chely is an open Christian and someone who is in the industry - so I can relate to what that's like. Also being a Christian who doesn't hate gay people -- I'm pretty liberal in terms of my views on social justice, and wrestling with those things.

I've gotten some emails from fans of Little People, Big World suggesting that I'm now liberal because I moved to Hollywood -- well, that's really not the case. I grew up in a more conservative family, but then I also spent my later years in a free Methodist Church where they are very open on the issue of social justice and civil rights for all. So it's not Hollywood that changed me, it's that I believe that Jesus Christ would fully embrace gay people...

4:40 -- "I have to admit, I was feeling a bit selfish these days. I am so so passionate about people with disabilities having access to the media because the media is American power. In America, the media states who is cool, who is smart, who is beautiful -- unfortunately it is sort of the voice of a lot of people. But I've been feeling selfish. Who am I to fight for people with disabilities in the media when homosexuals don't even have the basic human rights of getting married -- that's a basic human right - for me to be on TV is a luxury, that's a gift.

10:15 -- "Often times people that are critical of the human rights movement say "Oh Jen, you must be a lesbian and that's why you are so interested in this. Just think about it -- I am straight, but the Kinsey scale is very fluid, it's not like us VS them, straight VS gay. Even so, the way it's said "Oh she must be gay"...is that supposed to be an insult? Because I don't find it to be an insult. If I was, I would embrace it. Why is that even relevant, can't we just be an advocate for basic human rights?

Also, Jen is shooting a new television show that is apparently currently in production. Jen and some of the cast was on a segment of 'LA Today' to talk about it. Jen is on at 4:20 of the video. Congratulations to Jen!

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